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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Bro what is this willpower section?

Even using the examples that they list for both sides, Gorr's are just so much better than Zamasu's that it's not even funny. Zamasu gets him resisting the fusion ending (with the blog itself outright saying that it was the combined willpower of Zamasu and Black achieving this) and him overpowering Goku. Meanwhile Gorr's entire life pre-God Buthcer was just "and then it gets worse" and him taking All Black from Knull. Saying that Gorr getting wrecked by a character that would absolutely shit on characters even stronger than Zamasu sets a precedent for Gorr's will being overpowered is absolute insane.

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The wincon used to argue for Zamasu would take too long to actually matter.
Bro what is this willpower section?

Even using the examples that they list for both sides, Gorr's are just so much better than Zamasu's that it's not even funny. Zamasu gets him resisting the fusion ending (with the blog itself outright saying that it was the combined willpower of Zamasu and Black achieving this) and him overpowering Goku. Meanwhile Gorr's entire life pre-God Buthcer was just "and then it gets worse" and him taking All Black from Knull. Saying that Gorr getting wrecked by a character that would absolutely shit on characters even stronger than Zamasu sets a precedent for Gorr's will being overpowered is absolute insane.

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Honestly just better off argue it being a stalemate then this ngl
 
Hmm back then WW won because she had sword, equal AP and way higher speed. Nowadays they are full stats equal and Thor has reality warping power of Thorforce. Geeeez I wonder whooo would win lol
 
Hmm back then WW won because she had sword, equal AP and way higher speed. Nowadays they are full stats equal and Thor has reality warping power of Thorforce. Geeeez I wonder whooo would win lol
G1 has Marvel > DC now (although I think WW vs Thor is being done by different people than their normal set), so she might not even get equal stats. I just hope they don’t go too far into the wank, though.
 
G1 has Marvel > DC now (although I think WW vs Thor is being done by different people than their normal set), so she might not even get equal stats. I just hope they don’t go too far into the wank, though.
They verse are still equal in much assumptions overrall, and given their are the top of their verse i can see them putting This two in equal stats, which comes down who can resist the hax of the other.
 
Anti-Crisis WW could match or maybe even outmatch Thor given how high it is in the cosmology. But like I said earlier, outside of that, Thor is generally way too versatile and varied in abilities that he'd probably outclass Diana by a lot.
I was going based on the linked Dormammu vs Trigon blog they sourced in Strange vs Reimu and Sentry vs Prime. They have scaling to the Elder Gods being above the Snyder dimensions, so even WW in Death Metal would be weaker.
 
I was going based on the linked Dormammu vs Trigon blog they sourced in Strange vs Reimu and Sentry vs Prime. They have scaling to the Elder Gods being above the Snyder dimensions, so even WW in Death Metal would be weaker.
Taked for the dormmamu vs trigon blog itself

Overall regardless of what end you buy, please do not see the low or high end as the end all be all, it is always worth more discussion, this is purely if you were to absolutely use equal leeway with others. Similarly speaking, do not run wild saying we think Marvel’s cosmology is > DC’s or vice versa, because neither of these two scale to the full width and scope of their cosmology so answering that now would be quite silly.
 
Taked for the dormmamu vs trigon blog itself

Overall regardless of what end you buy, please do not see the low or high end as the end all be all, it is always worth more discussion, this is purely if you were to absolutely use equal leeway with others. Similarly speaking, do not run wild saying we think Marvel’s cosmology is > DC’s or vice versa, because neither of these two scale to the full width and scope of their cosmology so answering that now would be quite silly.
Okay, if you want a disclaimer, I wasn’t being fully technical when I said they have “Marvel > DC”, but I don’t think this is related to the point I actually was making. They just said that eg Dormammu and Trigon aren’t the end-all be-all of their respective settings, and hence aren’t representative of deciding which setting is actually bigger. That doesn’t change the fact that unless they change their minds for whatever reason (even though they published these opinions very recently) they would have current Thor above even Anti-Crisis WW.
 
Isn't he supposed to be even stronger as a result though? He mentioned he needed to die again to become something more or some shit.
TT Doomsday is pretty much a future version of Doomsday that has adapted a ton throughout the years, he also sacrificed himself to give Superman an amp strong enough to battle against an amped Darkseid
 
TT Doomsday is pretty much a future version of Doomsday that has adapted a ton throughout the years, he also sacrificed himself to give Superman an amp strong enough to battle against an amped Darkseid
yes and he willingly lost it, hes been the time trapper since 2024 so its usable imo. It also negates the "send him to the end of time" 682 wincon that people had for years
 
Okay, if you want a disclaimer, I wasn’t being fully technical when I said they have “Marvel > DC”, but I don’t think this is related to the point I actually was making. They just said that eg Dormammu and Trigon aren’t the end-all be-all of their respective settings, and hence aren’t representative of deciding which setting is actually bigger. That doesn’t change the fact that unless they change their minds for whatever reason (even though they published these opinions very recently) they would have current Thor above even Anti-Crisis WW.
Even then, Anti-Crisis WW isn't a form that she can just bust out willy-nilly from what I understand. She needed to have so many factors come together right there at the end so she could finish off a weakened Darkest Knight and Perpetua. Thor's got that kind of power on tap at all times, so he doesn't have those same problems.
 
Anti-Crisis WW could match or maybe even outmatch Thor given how high it is in the cosmology. But like I said earlier, outside of that, Thor is generally way too versatile and varied in abilities that he'd probably outclass Diana by a lot.
It’s actually really funny how WW had to do get this crazy buff that she can’t replicate to get a form that couldn’t even beat TDK meanwhile Prime beat him outright and could’ve killed him and taken his powers if he wanted
 
tom king isn't helping matters either.
Didn't even have her at bullet dodging level 😭.

Honestly, for a magic related character, it's kinda wild Diana isn't all that versatile and how much of a flying brick she is in her stories. Deadass moreso than guys like Superman or GL.

That's smthn I appreciate a lot more with Absolute WW, she's a lot more tied to sorcery in her abilities and power sets.
 
It's not really a accomplishment to beat wonder woman anymore. Honestly hasn't been for 10 years now. She's been power crept badly, tom king isn't helping matters either.

U know it's bad when Aquaman is more impressive than her since he got the blue
Didn't even have her at bullet dodging level 😭.

Honestly, for a magic related character, it's kinda wild Diana isn't all that versatile and how much of a flying brick she is in her stories. Deadass moreso than guys like Superman or GL.

That's smthn I appreciate a lot more with Absolute WW, she's a lot more tied to sorcery in her abilities and power sets.
Wouldn't shock me of the blog has couple of decent hax for her that most of us didn't notice but yeah she hasn't been impressive over the years outside a non standard form
 
Also had her off herself in the most recent issue, her current run is a joke lmao. Dogwater writer.

Forget superman or GL, current Aquaman is more versatile than a character tied to multiple gods, aquaman was seen as the dude who talks to fish lol
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Didn't even have her at bullet dodging level 😭.

Honestly, for a magic related character, it's kinda wild Diana isn't all that versatile and how much of a flying brick she is in her stories. Deadass moreso than guys like Superman or GL.

That's smthn I appreciate a lot more with Absolute WW, she's a lot more tied to sorcery in her abilities and power sets.
 
Also had her off herself in the most recent issue, her current run is a joke lmao. Dogwater writer.

Forget superman or GL, current Aquaman is more versatile than a character tied to multiple gods, aquaman was seen as the dude who talks to fish lol
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Transdimensional doorways from space and landing in the ocean unscathed....... What the actual fuckering f.ck

Namor was always cooked isn't it
 
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