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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Every day that passes, i still believe that Kyle vs Simon was still a correct veredict.
Now some points were weird and all, but still, the veredict was acceptable
 
Alexander said:
Every day that passes, i still believe that Kyle vs Simon was still a correct veredict.
Now some points were weird and all, but still, the veredict was acceptable
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Well, it was debatable who can win that fight and still is, but Kyle not Mastering the life equation was his downfall, wonder if the result would change if he was able to Master it?
 
Nick443 said:
Well, it was debatable who can win that fight and still is, but Kyle not Mastering the life equation was his downfall, wonder if the result would change if he was able to Master it?
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No i don't think it could have changed. Even if Kyle mastered the LE, it was also shown that people with high amount of will power can resists its effects...and Kyle was fighting against someone with infinite amounts of it.
 
Alexander said:
Every day that passes, i still believe that Kyle vs Simon was still a correct veredict.
Now some points were weird and all, but still, the veredict was acceptable
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It was correct because one guy is the size of an entire universe and can throw galaxies around like footballs and the other guy consistently is not on that level. But Death Battle instead arguing that they’re both “beyond fiction” unironically because of some garbage (this AU audio drama has Simon breaking the fourth-wall, so he’s on the level of Kyle’s dumb inconsistent cosmology wank) is the real problem.
 
So, after rereading the Doom vs Vecna blog, I asked Google's AI to write the lyrics to a Death Battle soundtrack, and I honestly like the results:

Song Title: Sovereign's Secrets
  • Tempo: 160 BPM (A blazing, frantic pace blending symphonic black metal with industrial techno-thrash)
  • Instrumentation: Aggressive 8-string guitar chugs, a cathedral pipe organ, 808 sub-bass drops, glitchy sci-fi synthesizers, and an operatic choir singing in both Latin and Draconic.
  • Vocal Style: Two distinct vocalists. Vecna's lines are delivered in an eerie, rasping black-metal hiss (with overlapping echo). Doom’s lines are a booming, theatrical, distorted baritone.



🎼 Intro: The Convergence of Evil
(The track opens with an ominous, low synthesizer pulse that morphs into a ticking countdown. Suddenly, a massive blast of church organ colliding with futuristic laser sound effects introduces the main, frantic metal riff.)
(Choir - Whispering)
Secrets... Power... Iron... Tower...
(Vecna - Raspy, echoing laugh)
"A mere mortal playing god behind a mask of tin?"
(Doctor Doom - Booming electronic mask filter)
"You speak to Doom, lich. Your secrets are nothing to my intellect."



⚡ Verse 1: The Whispered God (Vecna’s Movement)
(The music turns sinister and erratic. Double-bass drum pedals hammer at lightning speed while dissonant, high-pitched strings create an atmosphere of pure madness.)
(Vecna - Rasping, rapid-fire vocals)
I am the secret that rots in your mind,
The architect of the dark, leaving godhood behind!
The Hand and the Eye, the balance undone,
I’ll unweave your armor before the day is won!
Your science is brittle, your ego is weak,
I know the exact final words you will speak.
Step into the Shadowfell, kneel to the Arch-Mage,
As I tear your memories straight from the page!



🚀 Verse 2: The Latverian Might (Doom’s Counter-Attack)
(The beat locks into a crushing, militaristic thrash-metal groove. Heavy brass horn stabs punctuate every lyric line, signifying Doom's absolute authority.)
(Doctor Doom - Dominant, operatic baritone)
Foolish corpse! You boast of lore and of dust,
While your magic decays and your trinkets turn to rust!
I have mastered the mystic, I’ve conquered the stars,
Your petty geometry breaks on my bars!
Time is my weapon, the platform aligns,
I siphon your essence, unravel your designs!
You are a relic of a primitive sphere,
Face the ultimate power that the cosmos fears!



🌋 Chorus: Clash of the Tyrants
(The full orchestra, industrial synths, and screaming metal guitars unite in a soaring, epic, and highly intense chorus.)
(Both Vocalists alternating / Layered together)
(Doom): The world is my throne, the future is mine!
(Vecna): The secrets are bleeding, the stars realign!
(Both):
BOW DOWN! TO THE RULER OF DEATH AND THE SKIES!
Where gods are dethroned and reality dies!
No mercy, no compromise, look to your doom,
From the depth of the tomb to the iron throne room!



🎻 Bridge: The Duel of Wills
(The metal breaks away. A haunting violin solo duets with a mechanical synth-bass line, representing Magic vs. Technology.)
(Vecna - Low, creeping whisper)
"I see your thoughts, Victor... the mother you couldn't save..."
(Doctor Doom - Roaring with absolute fury)
"DOOM RESPONDS TO NO ONE!"
(An explosive, neo-classical guitar solo tears through the track, trading bars back-and-forth with a frantic pipe organ solo. The sound effects of spell casting, lasers, and metal clashing play in rhythm with the music.)



💥 Chorus: Clash of the Tyrants
(The final chorus returns at maximum volume, layered with apocalyptic choir chants.)
(Both Vocalists)
BOW DOWN! TO THE RULER OF DEATH AND THE SKIES!
Where gods are dethroned and reality dies!
No mercy, no compromise, look to your doom,
From the depth of the tomb to the iron throne room!



🤫 Outro: The Final Blow
(The instruments cut out instantly on a massive explosion sound effect. The ringing echo clears to reveal a single, gasping breath.)
*(Vecna or Doom? - A voice gasps, then a sickening crunch of iron crushing bone echoes.)
(Winner - Spoken in complete, icy calm)
"Infinitesimal."
(A single, heavy cathedral bell tolls once, fading into static silence.)
 
Osemere said:
It was correct because one guy is the size of an entire universe and can throw galaxies around like footballs and the other guy consistently is not on that level. But Death Battle instead arguing that they’re both “beyond fiction” unironically because of some garbage (this AU audio drama has Simon breaking the fourth-wall, so he’s on the level of Kyle’s dumb inconsistent cosmology wank) is the real problem.
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Not even breaking the fourth wall, it is straight up the fact that there is a meta-fictional aspect of this, where the whole Gurren Lagann story is created and seen as fiction and Simon (from that story) is able to trascend it with Spiral Power.
It was the reason why it was equalized it.
 
SimonKyle has 2 criteria for me:
  • Outerversal+ AP doesnt mean you are immune to 3D+ attacks if you are 3D person
  • Outerversal+ AP doesnt automatically bypass Regen
With these, you can use Simon's better regen and stamina to argue that he can outlast Kyle, no matter how high Kyle scales.

Otherwise weeeeell a dub is a dub is a dub :^)
 
TMaakkonen said:
SimonKyle has 2 criteria for me:
  • Outerversal+ AP doesnt mean you are immune to 3D+ attacks if you are 3D person
  • Outerversal+ AP doesnt automatically bypass Regen
With these, you can use Simon's better regen and stamina to argue that he can outlast Kyle, no matter how high Kyle scales.

Otherwise weeeeell a dub is a dub is a dub :^)
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Oh yeah that is another thing, Kyle has consistently shown to be tired and even need to recharge himself.
Simon on other hand, can last just as long as his will can last (if he doesn't overdo himself)
 
Joycap said:
Thought I’d chime in and say I’ve been binging the Tales of series lately (just finished Graces F, working through Arise now), and for some reason, Graces gave me more MU ideas that… aren’t Xeno based? (Pascal might have even taken away a potential MU from my list, now that you mention it).

That said, the Noah & Mio vs Alphen & Shionne comparison has come down on me like a ton of bricks. Still prefer Noah vs Yuito, but if NoahAlphen becomes the XC3 MU DBa goes with, I won’t lose a wink of sleep about it.
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W im working on revising the series and playing through it rn myself
 
BTW, for anyone interested:


Because as someone who shat on Shulk vs Lightning for assuming my exp. With the FFXIII trilogy would be dogwater (and even now, I still think the MU in question to be mid), I’ve put myself in a bit of an odd position as far as NoahAlphen. In other words: NoahAlphen is everything I accused Shulk vs Lightning of being on a count of the whole ‘false equivalency’ thing I mentioned pre-2025.

I’ll go into more detail another time. I need to get some kip lmao.

EDIT:

Dalesean027 said:
W im working on revising the series and playing through it rn myself
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Weirdest way for me to get ninja’d, I guess…
 
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I hope the G1 blog comes out soon so I can have time to steal Sentry scans analyze it before the actual fight
 
Either research isnt ready or arguments n debates are not finished. Its not that complicated to presume why it takes long.
 
"Prime's retcon abilities relied on reality being unstable during Crisis Events" mfers saying some bullshit as if he's not currently being treated as "I can retcon whenever I want" man in the current Superman book.
 
AcidSilver said:
"Prime's retcon abilities relied on reality being unstable during Crisis Events" mfers saying some bullshit as if he's not currently being treated as "I can retcon whenever I want" man in the current Superman book.
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I mean you kinda already answered your own point right there. He's seen that way in 'current' publication, not how he was seen way back when research on this probably started.
 
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