Hellformer
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The changes have been made, now I'll wait for Firestorm's input for Ben's Universe
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Ben 10 Cosmology: High 1-B upgrade
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Aolphl
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Then "Varies" should be added to Annihilarrgh's profile.
Ghengiroo115
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Makes sense.
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Pretty sure that the standard is that if you come from something that has certain dimensions, then you also have those dimensions
Celestial_Scaler25
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They used a transdimensional vessel to travel from their dimension to Ben's dimension. Not really, no. Ben's Universe is 5D and he is still 3 dimensional.
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You know very well that Ben universe is the exception to that rule, and the phrasing implies that they at the very least embodies those dimensions
Celestial_Scaler25
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They used a transdimensional vessels to travel from one dimensionality to another. Just like Mr. Mxyzptlk did in a similar way.
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Who edited alien x’s profile? Because (assuming the thread got accepted) there is 0 reasoning for high 1-B in the profile
Celestial_Scaler25
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Hellformer already said that everything rated at 1B will be upscaled to High 1B on the CRT.
And Celestialsapiens can already destroy all of existence.
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his power is the greatest in the verse and he scales above chrononavigator should be valid enough
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But 90% of the previous reasoning is gone as well…….
The only statement there is “he can destroy existence” with no cosmology blog linked. If a random looked at the site, they’d have no evidence to show that “existence” is high hyper
Hellformer
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Scaling above High 1-B Chrononavigator and being able to destroy all creations of Annihilargh which includes this High 1-B Universe should be simple enough to understand.
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Yes but where is the evidence in the profile that says that the universe is high 1-B, it’s like me editing out the cosmology blog for Solaris and replacing it with “can destroy all timelines” and no other scans.
Celestial_Scaler25
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The reasoning remains the exact same. The Space Beyond is already established as a part of existence as Paradox claims the Chrononavigator to be able to destroy it.
Celestial_Scaler25
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Alien X's profile already has a link to the verse page and that has a link to the Cosmology page. The previous page profile saying that he's 26D didn't explicitly say anything about the 26D. But I understand your concern. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon.
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reading comprehension isn't that hard. Look at alien x's page, and show me the evidence on the page itself, that the cosmology is above uni+..............
Hellformer
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I've attached the blog which I've used in the cosmology page as well. Let me know if that seems fine
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The cosmology blog is removed, thats what I'm complaining about
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Sneaky ahh guy thought he could edit it back in without me knowing. It's fine now
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Yeah, that perfect.
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About alien x higher dimensional existence. Why is he only atleast 4-D, shouldn't be higher?
Celestial_Scaler25
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Well discuss it at a different time. It's not important rn.
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Now we wait a week for someone to make a debunk thread on High 1-B Alien X
That thread goes on for like a month and it'll get accepted
Then a week later someone makes a High 1-B Alien X rebunk
It gets accepted and then we'll have another High 1-B Alien X debunk
It goes like this until we make a discussion rule on this
That thread goes on for like a month and it'll get accepted
Then a week later someone makes a High 1-B Alien X rebunk
It gets accepted and then we'll have another High 1-B Alien X debunk
It goes like this until we make a discussion rule on this
Celestial_Scaler25
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Thank you for your time and assistance Firestorm. I believe that the Thread has reached a conclusion and can be closed.
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Don't forget the thread that either downgrades all of the verse back to tier 2, or it upgrades it to outversal at the end of the year
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Dude, it's been a day. Couldn't you wait for us to review the draft before publishing and adjusting the other profiles? I'll be available in the afternoon.
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Hellformer
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Someone had suggested, I'm extremely sorry
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They never stop doing a debunk for Ben 10. We need to start making discussion rules for this.
@Hellformer @Celestial_Scaler25 @Ben_10_Stick_Nodes @Greenshifter @OMNIVERSAL-KING
Hellformer
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Let this thread and it's work get over. I don't wanna rush anything.
OMNIVERSAL-KING
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That "multiple physics" thing has a big use
I will show it in next CRT
OMNIVERSAL-KING
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It will be soon changed (upgraded) but I think "scaling above Chrononavigater" is enough evidence
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Yeah , making rules seems best but as Hell former said , no need to rush things , first let this CRT get applied, then I have another important crt to make , after that we can go to "making rules"
Hellformer
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In case you get some spare time, please let me know if you're pleased with this explanation
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I'll go ahead and clean-up what's already added to the cosmology page.In case you get some spare time, please let me know if you're pleased with this explanation
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Not got anything to do with what I said but okay…….
Hellformer
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Thank you for your precious time
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@Planck69 @DarkDragonMedeus
Let me know if you have any objections.
Here's the additions to the Cosmology Page:
In context of the series, technology such as the Annihilarrgh and the Chronosapien Time Bomb show that the quantity of infinity for space-time is "calculable." Maltruant programmed an Annihilarrgh to create a Universe in his image which includes its infinite timelines. The Chronosapien Time Bomb can reduce an infinite number of timelines to a finite number. With that in mind, "incalculable" refers to a quantity at least "infinite."
When Ben's Universe was destroyed, both the Hypertimeline Structure and the initial White Void were destroyed, leaving any survivors in the black Space Beyond.
The Space Beyond/Omniverse extends past and contains the various Annihilarrgh Universes.
Ben's Annihilarrgh Universe: At least Hyperverse level (25-D)
Annihilarrgh Universes: Up to High Hyperverse level (ℵ0-D)
White Void/Nothingness: High Hyperverse level (ℵ0-D)
The Space Beyond/Omniverse: High Hyperverse level (ℵ0-D)
Let me know if you have any objections.
Here's the additions to the Cosmology Page:
The "Universe"/Annihilarrgh Universes (Up to High 1-B)
Annihilarrgh Universes can contain an infinite number of spatio-temporal dimensions. This is shown by the incalculable number of higher dimensions existing within another Annihilarrgh universe. These statements aren't contradicted. For Ben's Universe, there is no defined limit. It is simply stated that only 26 of which matter for whatever reason.In context of the series, technology such as the Annihilarrgh and the Chronosapien Time Bomb show that the quantity of infinity for space-time is "calculable." Maltruant programmed an Annihilarrgh to create a Universe in his image which includes its infinite timelines. The Chronosapien Time Bomb can reduce an infinite number of timelines to a finite number. With that in mind, "incalculable" refers to a quantity at least "infinite."
When Ben's Universe was destroyed, both the Hypertimeline Structure and the initial White Void were destroyed, leaving any survivors in the black Space Beyond.
White Void/Nothingness (High 1-B)
These White Voids are capable of becoming Universes with an incalculable number of higher dimensions existing without affecting the Space BeyondThe Space Beyond/Omniverse (High 1-B)
It's not until an Annihilarrgh is activated in the white void, that a "Universe" Hypertimeline structure is made and given space-time.The Space Beyond/Omniverse extends past and contains the various Annihilarrgh Universes.
Ben's Annihilarrgh Universe: At least Hyperverse level (25-D)
Annihilarrgh Universes: Up to High Hyperverse level (ℵ0-D)
White Void/Nothingness: High Hyperverse level (ℵ0-D)
The Space Beyond/Omniverse: High Hyperverse level (ℵ0-D)
Celestial_Scaler25
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So the Annhilarrgh Universe is 'Varies, atleast 1B(atleast 26D that matter), up to High 1B'?
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- Each Dimension inside a timeline: Low 2-C, due to dimension being constantly referred as being whole universe, with infinite size and different time flows, and are separated by a barrier of space-time that is accessible by specific in-verse in-universe dimension connecting devices.
- The Multiverse: 2-A, due to infinite dimensions being consistently reffered as being whole universes, with are separated by a barrier of space-time.
- Timestream/Crosstime: Low 1-C, due to making each single spatio-temporal layer a 2-A structure and this branching process continues with every other snapshot/story of the tree ad infinitum i.e. forever, again and again making the space-time tree a higher temporal dimension structure.
- Hypertimeline: 1-C, due to has its own separate temporality from the branching timelines, and unaffected by higher temporal dimension powers, and is a superimposing hypertimeline that governs all of Universe post-Annihilargh events from beginning to end.
- Ben's Annihilarrgh Universe: At least 1-B, since it's a step or so away from the Space Beyond.
- Annihilarrgh Multiverse: up to High 1-B, due to contain an infinite number of spatio-temporal dimensions. This is shown by the incalculable number of higher dimensions existing within another Annihilarrgh universe.
- White Void/Nothingness: High 1-B, due to capable of becoming Universes with an incalculable number of higher dimensions existing without affecting the Space Beyond.
- Space Beyond/Omniverse: High 1-B, due to extends past the various Annihilarrgh Universes, which can contain an infinite number of spatio-temporal dime nsions.
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The evidence for High 1-B is frankly extremely weak, and from what I see:
Hinges entirely on the supposed distinction made between "universe" and "dimension" in that of dialogue, which in turn is reasoned to mean that they are referring to distinct things. Except that, if you look at the actual quote, you'll see that the "incalculable dimension" and the "glorious universe" are the same subject:
It's literally just using different terms for the same thing, and otherwise there is not the slightest indication that it's talking about infinite spatial dimensions in here. That reading wouldn't even make sense, anyways, since a spatial dimension is not a place, so it's nonsensical to describe oneself as being "from" one. If the quote said "We are from an incalculable dimensionality", there'd be a good argument, but that's not what is said.
So, yeah, unless I'm missing something, this is totally bunk.
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