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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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I see what you're going for, but Godzilla is using Kaioken, so now I'm imaging Frieza with Kaioken, and it's kind of hilarious.
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Did you bother reading the thread?
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They accepted the massive flaws and decided to ignore it.
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precisely. And you still dont get it??
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I don't even understand
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Anyone else feel like manga dbz is a bit lowballed considering all the different statement we have throughout cell saga and buu saga that points towards far greater scaling?
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I dont know if raws say the exact same thing but if they do i think this is evidence enough that even average planets in dragon ball are 3x larger than our earth. this would upgrade the GBE of almost every planet destroyed so far including namek and vegeta
@Ryzen7900X Should the Super Dragon Balls be used as a metric to distinguish between moons and planets? Because using the 37,196.2204 km as a metric to make that distinction for this calc, it only comes out to giving Low 5-B results. Since we currently have beginning of Saiyan Arc Goku at 5-A, I was hoping to potentially upgrade 23rd Budokai Goku up to that too since the calc has some 5-A values and it would make for a better justification for the beginning of Saiyan Arc over just saying "he's 200x weaker than his Namek Arc key"
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It probably doesnt affect the moons it should more so be used to up the GBE of planets like vegeta or namek and possibly earth although a low 5-B moon makes early dragon ball low 5-B/5-B
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@Ryzen7900X How much of Dragon Ball's Earth is covered by land? Any images of the globe are rather inconsistent from one another:
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I have 2 calcs on this
One end directly calculating the super dragon balls GBE, another using this site's planet parameters site to get the GBE of a planet with that radius, gravity was assumed to be equal to Earth's (this serves as both a lowball and a kid to the fact that earthlings seen to be comfortable within a lot of the visited planets)
Gonna put it in a calc blog soon
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Climate change in action
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That's correct
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Or too much stingy "Dragon Ball planets and stars have to be the exact same size as our planets and stars"
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I know there's universal statements in the buu saga (But those could easily be chalked up to being overtime, especially in hindsight either how impressive Goku and Beerus' universe destroying clash wad considered for the time it happened), but what statements does the cell saga have that could make our manga ratings lowballed? Best statement there is Cell saying he can destroy the solar system which we already accept (Although I heard there's a CRT to not scale it to his physicals anymore or something?)
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It's not the statements themselves put the fact that the calc we use is too low, my own thoughts can be summed up like this:
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@Dust_Collector Also too, I quickly calced the AP to destroy the Solar System from the Sun to Pluto (which would be what Toriyama was thinking of by Solar System and it’s either 92.36462631 KiloFoe using the Perihelion or 255.2724121 KiloFoe using the Aphihelion
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I dont think destroying the solar system should be any lower than destroying it until neptune at least
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Isnt the DB solar system also stated to be a galactic nebula?? IIRC Herms said it was wrong but he translated it wrongly as well so the raw text should probably get evaluated by the translators here
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dont do it jimmy
I could see ( in near future) a group of 2000 members downgrading dragonball to planet level
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Why not?dont do it jimmy
I could see ( in near future) a group of 2000 members downgrading dragonball to planet level
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It says on the ki manip page that you can imbue someone with your own ki and then internally detonate it within them. Would that not be some form of dura neg?
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Reminds me of Gogeta's meteor explosion on Broly. It seems like a obvious case of durability negation in my opinion
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The same goes for me here
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Gohan's supposed to be ~~~~1/4 the Solar Kamehameha, right?
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I think so?
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Isn't that the definition of Void Manipulation?
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Nah, herms was wrong, some other translators actually corrected his interpretation of it in a better way.
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I believe that the energy of destruction must scale to thisIsn't that the definition of Void Manipulation?
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Yeah, one of it applications. Check what ability is in the blue linkIsn't that the definition of Void Manipulation?
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It's because one of the uses is this, Void and EE are very linked, and basically all 3 uses of Void mention EE.
Also some characters in the example on the page have both (Void and EE) for the same justification as Void.
Example: Super Dimentio, Monitor-Mind The Overvoid and Exdeath
So having one doesn't cancel out the other, as long as it has something to do with "Void/Nothing". Like manipulating the void, turning something into nothing and erasing it from existence.
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That'd make every character with EE having Void Manipulation, which is not only completely meaningless but redundant to list the very same ability twice
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There's a difference.
Erasing someone from existence is just EE.
But manipulating the void, to erase someone from existence or turn them into nothing, counts as both.
The page itself shows 3 possible uses of Void Manipulation that connects with EE.
The page also gives examples of characters that have Void and EE for erasing something from existence using the void.
So I think being "redundant" is not an argument.
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