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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Goku Black also has possibly dura-neg listed because his scythe can cut holes in space time which everyone else post Buu saga should be able to do, so there’s that.
The thing is, Goku black is the only one who does it offensively/proactively. Everyone else who does it, does it as a result of an obstacle... Gotenks/super Buu to escape the ROSAT, Goku to break hit's dimension, even buuhan's was environmental on nature

But Goku black also showed the ability to donate ki within someone, he did it to Goku I believe
 
The thing is, Goku black is the only one who does it offensively/proactively. Everyone else who does it, does it as a result of an obstacle... Gotenks/super Buu to escape the ROSAT, Goku to break hit's dimension, even buuhan's was environmental on nature

But Goku black also showed the ability to donate ki within someone, he did it to Goku I believe
Although Goku Black has done much better, his time rift he said saw other Universes.
 
Iirc, he said he didn't know what he was seeing, whether other universe or an entire different timeline, so it's basically impossible to get anything tierable out of that
Yes, but these references alone end up killing any achievement in the Buu saga, although in the Broly film we have a much superior feat, where Gogeta and Broly affect all space-time to enter a dimensional barrier.
 
Same reason Vegerot went Super Saiyan against Buuhan even though he had the upper hand in base.

***** and giggles.

Although IIRC Goku wasn't doing so hot against Ledgic until he went Super Saiyan.
 
There's a difference.

Erasing someone from existence is just EE.

But manipulating the void, to erase someone from existence or turn them into nothing, counts as both.
Cool, Hakai does the former. So no need to list it in the manga

The anime already has it because it is shown to manipulate an empty void.
 
btw I'm pretty serious about the 4-A cell saga shit. I really see no way to refute it unless you somehow prove that statement is false because not only have we never actually seen the db solar system entirely but because there is no contradicting statements for it in the series and even if some part of the solar system is shown that visual is not enough to disprove it. at worst that statement can be interpreted as the solar system being a nebula that contains at least one star (the sun) and numerous other planets (far greater than known ones) which would still be perfectly fine as we mostly just need the extremely large distances/size of a nebula to get higher results
 
btw I'm pretty serious about the 4-A cell saga shit. I really see no way to refute it unless you somehow prove that statement is false because not only have we never actually seen the db solar system entirely but because there is no contradicting statements for it in the series and even if some part of the solar system is shown that visual is not enough to disprove it. at worst that statement can be interpreted as the solar system being a nebula that contains at least one star (the sun) and numerous other planets (far greater than known ones) which would still be perfectly fine as we mostly just need the extremely large distances/size of a nebula to get higher results
So you'd have no supporting evidence then, and the greater burden of evidence of proving 4-A Cell Saga would make it very hard to get accepted.
 
So you'd have no supporting evidence then
sure maybe, but the primary piece of evidence is nigh irrefutable and if it is rejected it'll hinge on incredulous stances not refutation of the statement. Dont worry though the crt will have you in the disagree section before its even posted ;)
and the greater burden of evidence of proving 4-A Cell Saga would make it very hard to get accepted.
which is, again, due to sheer incredulity. Nothing disproves that statement as far as I am aware

btw cell has other statements in the manga as well (such as being able to destroy all celestial bodies in the universe before he knows any teleportation with his alleged hypersonic travel speed so his 4-B rating is actually more contradictory if anything lol) so we're far from short on indirect supporting evidence
 
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sure maybe, but the primary piece of evidence is nigh irrefutable and if it is rejected it'll hinge on incredulous stances not refutation of the statement. Dont worry though the crt will have you in the disagree section before its even posted ;)
Good luck.
 
Good luck.
Thanks. hope you read this part too lol
btw cell has other statements in the manga as well (such as being able to destroy all celestial bodies in the universe before he knows any teleportation with his alleged hypersonic travel speed so his 4-B rating is actually more contradictory if anything lol) so we're far from short on indirect supporting evidence
 
Also I just realized that because its a galactic nebula it may actually be quite large and contain a lot of stars in it. according to esahubble.com, planetary nebulae are on average 1 lightyear in size. However since this is referred to as a galactic nebula its likely far larger and possibly more like a dwarf galaxy
 
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