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I did not know that was a thing.
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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)
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1.Has anyone even added the crt to crt promotion thread? Or messaged to a cg for review?
2.how many crts are currently open for nasuverse?
3.does anyone have the scans list for where exactly does magi resistance and authority resistance even comes from?
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2, I think?
ShinyMagicalGirl
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Wow yeah it seems like a lot of old Nasu supporters have left. I myself only was barely active here wayyy back (pretty much only a lurker by now) but I remember people like Paul Frank, Crimson, and the others who started the 1-A Root thread and also the start of higher-D Nasuverse. Seems like everyone's just left or moved on to busier things.
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I'll dm.
Which is based ASF ngl. Regardless of what points people did agree and disagree with, IDK why anyone wants to throw their bets in with an author who's consistently inconsistent. Not just his old WoG stuff too, but even newer ones like ORT being the strongest in TM, which he said literally just a FEW months after saying Remake Arcueid is the strongest.
Yeah I said before that if it were up to me, the verse would just get deleted so we could rebuild it from scratch, but I don't think anyone would accept that.
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Crimson said off site he's done with Nasuverse, yeah. Paul, IDK. Don't think he cares much anymore.
BTW technically the higher D stuff shouldn't be accepted without a cosmology blog, but no one has bothered making a CRT for that. Would be an easy debunk that no one would be able to contest either unless they felt like making a cosmology post.
But no one has soooooo...
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one who:
1) is a compulsive liar
~ [Tsukihime Idle Talk] Extra Part 2 - Circle Introduction
2) admits to yapping
~ 10th anniversary Q&A
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Yeah that's fair. No one's made a true cosmology blog on the Nasuverse, so I think it's best to just downgrade them to before what the Higher-D stuff was. No one can prove it now anyways since like you said, those two aren't interested in Nasuverse scaling anymore.
I'm expecting Nasuverse to get heavily downgraded here or maybe even heavily revamped now that very few are active for it.
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@Deagonx YOUR TIME
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I mean is anyone even making one? I certainly don't particularly care for the higher D stuff, and the community I generally hang in doesn't use dimensional scaling either, I'm just following this site's scaling. I'm only aiming at adjusting the scaling
Also without a proper cosmology blog to evaluate and accept, the tier 1 stuff shouldn't be there in the first place.
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since when was it a rule on the site that you needed to specifically have a blog
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So staff can evaluate and see if a cosmology fits the criteria for dimensional scaling, let alone the potential outer stuff people wanna push depending how Ultima's new system goes through, or tier 0 Root
This is like basic wikia info
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like they did in the thread?
CRIMPSUMPSKI2
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like it's been discussed to death so many times there's even a discussion rule regarding it
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Yeah and it shouldn't be funny enough
Tier 1 was accepted long before this site was more strict with it
And someone still made a CRT after that since they had a chance to make new arguments (spoilers, they didn't)
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What are the arguments against it, though? The absence of a Cosmology page isn't one, since, as demonstrated in the discussion rule, it is already considered consistent for Tier 1 to be in the Nasuverse. Therefore, having a Cosmology page solely for this reason is redundant. If there are arguments debunking it, there should be a CRT explaining why it should be downgraded due to those arguments.
I still fail to see how, as the Higher D Nasuverse is one of the clearest textbook definitions of higher-dimensional content I've encountered in fiction, but everyone is entitled to their own perspective.
I still fail to see how, as the Higher D Nasuverse is one of the clearest textbook definitions of higher-dimensional content I've encountered in fiction, but everyone is entitled to their own perspective.
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IIRC one can go against discussion rules as long as they get staff approvement first. These aren't infallible.
I mean to be blunt if this is true, then it should be easy for anyone to make a cosmology blog, but that has yet to happen. Crimson was making one but obviously that fell through
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I just bring this up because if someone tried downgrading it since it hasn't been properly evaluated, how would one defend it?
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I referenced the discussion rule not because it's infallible or anything, but because it provides evidence to support the argument. This rule states that the wiki already deems it consistent. Therefore, there's no need for a cosmology blog regarding this matter.
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It was because one dude was spamming bad downgrade threads bru
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I am pretty sure it was multiple guys who did the exact same arguments which got debunked over and over.It was because one dude was spamming bad downgrade threads bru
Also that rule did nothing considering a few months back someone once again did a debunk with the exact same arguments and staff forgot that rule exists and that debunk also got failed to pass through.
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I thought the rule was made in the first place because some Max Level dude spammed downgrade threads multiple times in a row (which I agree all the arguments were bad). There were others too, but I don't think they spammed. And being honest, the verse could use an actual evaluation eventually instead of some scans scattered across this wiki, some of which are even missing. This verse is definitely struggling to be passable, and IMO it still would've been better to just delete it and rebuild from the ground up instead of making dozens of CRTs with barely any supporters nowadays to untangle all the odd scaling, fix abilities, and making better justifications for other stuff all at the same time. But as said before I don't think a deletion would've been accepted, so oh well.
This said I don't particularly care if tier 1 stays or not. Said this already but the community I'm mainly a part of doesn't use dimensional scaling so I could care less what verses do and don't have it on vs wiki. I'm just here to discuss the scaling. I have some off site friends who help too, though they don't care enough to make profiles on vs wiki since they disagree with the system a lot (understandably).
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And if anyone thinks I think Nasuverse is weak or something then I'm gonna go ahead and kill this notion by saying I don't. It's probably the strongest anime verse at its peak. IIRC under Ultima's tiering system it's probably the only animoo verse to get tier 0 as well? Everything I said prior is because the verse could definitely use some cleaning up, which everyone here agrees with
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For cosmology stuff, maybe that G1 thing could suffice for cosmology? I remember ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn posted it here a few pages back.
I'll repost it, here. Read it if ya all like. (BTW I didn't mean to imply I WANT to downgrade Nasuverse, I just said it might since no one here's making much effort to buff it, unlike other active verses)
I'll repost it, here. Read it if ya all like. (BTW I didn't mean to imply I WANT to downgrade Nasuverse, I just said it might since no one here's making much effort to buff it, unlike other active verses)
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No one is making effort because most members, including the staffs don't like the verse. I remembered those days when a Nasuverse upgrade crt would be made and almost no supporter would leave any comment which makes the crt futile because it becomes the OP vs all the people who hate the verse. And those who once cared for the verse either left or gave up. That’s why I also don't really care for upgrading or revising the verse anymore except when it comes to the Root scaling since it's a lot easier especially under Ultima's new tier 0 revision. I have like 2 nasu threads still opened but intentionally didn't get back to them since i already know it will lead to nowhere.
Not to mention, most verses on this site has at least 1 staff member that watches over and supports the verse. Nasuverse has no staff member at all. Paul Frank was like the only respected non staff Nasu supporter but even he gave up on the verse.
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Also on the earlier stuff I said before, I don't like hate Nasuverse. There's some aspects here and there that are bleh, but I do mostly like it. And I completely get how you feel, which is why I've been trying to make an effort to comment on threads regardless. If I don't know a particular entry, I'll just go by what's presented to me and see if it's fine.
It's just if we literally can't get anything going with Nasuverse, I do genuinely think it'd just be better to delete it and retry from the ground up, which I'm still up for, but only if a majority is in favor of it. Otherwise the current state is just sad
Tdjwo
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Like every other verse, Nasuverse does indeed need a cosmology blog and I'm not against it. The only issue is, if we delete everything we already have just for the sake of making a cosmology blog, what do you think will happen when staff members reject the blog? Do you think we would be able to revive the verse to its previous state at that point? No. What will happen is exactly what happened to Masadaverse. The verse would be deleted for God knows how long. That's why I say we make a cosmology blog first without having to delete anything currently just in case the blog gets rejected.
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Tbh, I'm not interested in the thread anymore. You can take over it if you really want. I've messaged several staff members in the past. Not even one responded.
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I thought Shinza was mainly deleted because it just had bad justification for everything
As for Nasuverse, I brought it up less so to do with a cosmology blog, and because it pretty much has the same problems Shinza had way back, with few members nowadays actively trying to correct it. If people are still trying to adjust the verse then i can understand not wanting it deleted, although as you said the fact its mostly stagnant is discouraging and it feels more appealing IMO to perhaps consider putting it out of its misery.
That said fair enough on everything else
Yeaaaaahh that's happened to me before too and it gets annoying. That said I do plan on trying to make base Ryougi tier 1 soon-ish at least
Tdjwo
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Yes, that was one of the reasons. But it also had issues with determining how the cosmology actually worked or where it scales to.
By putting it out of its misery, do you mean the verse getting deleted? Honestly, if the verse gets deleted, then it's safe to say it's not coming back unless someone brings it back after downgrading the verse crazily. Most people don't even want the verse to be tier 1 in the first place.
Base Ryougi tier 1?
That sounds interesting.
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The tier 1 thing I don't particularly care for since it's not a metric I use. I'm just here to discuss the scaling
Yeah, we'll see what happens. Was told that some off site have some issues with it, but I don't agree with the counterarguments.Base Ryougi tier 1?
I'll also just say depending what is and isn't accepted, the scaling for Nasuverse will get shaken up on here immensely.
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funnily theoritical now accepts it as 1-A from what i heard
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It would be "1-A" under the new vs wiki system yeah
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Can someone get everyone to join up in 1 discord?
I am pretty sure they are 4 open crt thread which is not really allowed in the first place.
I am pretty sure they are 4 open crt thread which is not really allowed in the first place.
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A lot of Nasu CRTs are open, primarily due to no staff ever commenting, so they just died without ever being resolved
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Well, I bit a confused about saber shiki
She was in Final Singularity if she was in there ao I think Goetia wirh Nega-Summon unsummon her yeah?
and Saber shiki is literally the Root itself how this possible?
She was in Final Singularity if she was in there ao I think Goetia wirh Nega-Summon unsummon her yeah?
and Saber shiki is literally the Root itself how this possible?
