BFG 10,000 FTL attack speed

[Jason_Courne]

The BFG 10,000 can shoot down FTL ships, that's it. That's the entire thread, it should get FTL attack speed

BFG9000

The BFG9000 strikes fear wherever its name is heard, hell or above, by a human or by a demon. In the classic games, this weapon shot energy spheres that unleash tracer rays and a deadly wave upon impact. In Doom 3, the BFG 9000 fires a projectile with a small computer core that actively...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Ok but seriously

Originally established as a mining and communication relay, the UAC outpost on Phobos began immediate expansion following the destruction of the Argent facility on Mars. The UAC Board of Directors, intent on retaining their monopoly of the red planet and its surrounding airspace, issued the construction of an expansive defensive platform. Using technology derived from the BFG-9000, the design plan called for a massive particle cannon to be built on the orbiting moon. The BFG-10000, the largest man-made weapon platform ever conceived, wields enough firepower to defend against even the most sophisticated of capital-grade FTL cruisers in existence - or against the eventual potentiality of a space-bound demonic threat.

The Codex/Story of Earth states the BFG-10000 was designed with the goal of shooting down FTL ships in mind, as a result, the BFG should be capable of shooting projectiles at FTL speeds, for a "Possibly FTL" rating to replace the Relativistic+ one

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Looks good

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Simple and straightforward

 

[Ebihara]

Makes sense I agree.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Sounds simple on paper, but I hate being one of those "Devil's Advocates." It just says they can destroy "The most sophisticated FTL Cruisers." It's hyping up great fire power that can basically destroy the largest battlecruisers that came from the most far away places that just so happen to have FTL flight speed (For obvious reasons). But based on proposals I have seen before, one could ask if there is proof the projectiles gain on the ships while flying away at FTL velocities? If sentence said, "Not even FTL Cruisers can escape its might," it be a different story and more obvious. But the current sentence is kind of vague in that regard.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Yeah I can understand the vagueness, but for it to actually defend against said FTL cruisers, it should be possibly capable of similar speeds

So how about "possibly FTL" instead?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Sounds simple on paper, but I hate being one of those "Devil's Advocates." It just says they can destroy "The most sophisticated FTL Cruisers." It's hyping up great fire power that can basically destroy the largest battlecruisers that came from the most far away places that just so happen to have FTL flight speed (For obvious reasons). But based on proposals I have seen before, one could ask if there is proof the projectiles gain on the ships while flying away at FTL velocities? If sentence said, "Not even FTL Cruisers can escape its might," it be a different story and more obvious. But the current sentence is kind of vague in that regard.

Can't we just angsize Mars and use frame by frame to see how long it took to get there?

 

[Jason_Courne]

Can't we just angsize Mars and use frame by frame to see how long it took to get there?

That's how we have the current Sub Rela speed (albeit using the real world distance of Phobos and Mars instead of angsizing)

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with this, seems prerequisite that it should tag the ships, and it is not far from the current speed stat.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Bump

 

[Firestorm808]

Sounds simple on paper, but I hate being one of those "Devil's Advocates." It just says they can destroy "The most sophisticated FTL Cruisers." It's hyping up great fire power that can basically destroy the largest battlecruisers that came from the most far away places that just so happen to have FTL flight speed (For obvious reasons). But based on proposals I have seen before, one could ask if there is proof the projectiles gain on the ships while flying away at FTL velocities? If sentence said, "Not even FTL Cruisers can escape its might," it be a different story and more obvious. But the current sentence is kind of vague in that regard.

I share the same sentiment. Do we have further context on "how" it destroys FTL Cruisers?

The BFG 10000 fires in a straight line and requires a noticeable priming time. For it to aim and fire on a passing ship going FTL in some direction seems questionable to me.

 

[Jason_Courne]

I mean, the priming time and firing in a straight line actually leads to more credence it IS a FTL projectile, because otherwise that would mean some FTL battleships literally sit and wait for a projectile they should outspeed to hit them

Making it kind of a useless defense mechanism

 

[Firestorm808]

I mean, the priming time and firing in a straight line actually leads to more credence it IS a FTL projectile, because otherwise that would mean some FTL battleships literally sit and wait for a projectile they should outspeed to hit them

Making it kind of a useless defense mechanism

That's the thing, we don't know the "movement status" of these ships when they are destroyed. The speed of the the gun's rotationary movements imply that they are stationary ships.

 

[Jason_Courne]

That's the thing, we don't know the "movement status" of these ships when they are destroyed. The speed of the the gun's rotationary movements imply that they are stationary ships.

Yeah but like I said, the gun being so large and actually needing to charge up it's attack makes it more likely they wouldn't just be stationary.

Personally I think it lines up with the site's definition of a possibly rating, it has some basis (we are outright told it can defend against FTL ships). Although we don't know the exact manner, we have some reason to believe it's doing so through projectile speed (The shear size, predictable trajectory, and charging time would theoretically make it easier to dodge, and render less substantial against FTL attacking ships)

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I mean, the priming time and firing in a straight line actually leads to more credence it IS a FTL projectile, because otherwise that would mean some FTL battleships literally sit and wait for a projectile they should outspeed to hit them

Making it kind of a useless defense mechanism

The general impression isn't so much that the ship is retreating, it's more so that it's trying to evade Earth. If anything, the ships are more implied to be flying towards it and not away. The defense mechanism has more to do with range and heavy firepower that not even the largest ships can withstand it, rather than proof it fires FTL projectiles that ships try to retreat against.