Doom Eternal Revision Thread Part 3

[Antvasima]

Okay. What is that based on?

 

[KieranH10]

Personally I don't think they act enough like lasers to be considered SoL, they seem like basic energy attacks. The word laser is thrown around by fiction all the time. Unless we have more evidence than just a developer statement I think they shouldn't be SoL.

The Tier 6 thing is based on a calc.

 

[DTG499]

When one of the doom lore YouTube channels was interviewing the creative director, the YouTuber asked what the drones shoot, Hugo said "lasers, makyr drone lasers". Honestly it's a take it or leave it statement. I'm neutral on it.

 

[KieranH10]

Yeah, unless we have more evidence I don't see that getting accepted unfortunately.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

You can call them laser or light but if they dont have the properties of light it would not be accepted

 

[KieranH10]

Just slightly off-topic i've almost finished my Sandbox for the Hell Civilisation that I was talking of a while ago, just thought I'd ask if anything else should be added.

I have scans for most things that will be added after the wiki move.

 

[Antvasima]

I have to unsubscribe from this thread due to time constraints. You can notify me later via my message wall if you need my help after you have reached a conclusion.

 

[KieranH10]

ok no problem.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The Sandbox is looking pretty good so far

 

[Jared1111]

Sandbox looks pretty great, nice job Kieran.

 

[KieranH10]

Thanks! Anything major that i've missed?

 

[DTG499]

Argent energy was a recent addition to hell from the conquering argent D'Nur and was only made through combining Hell essence and sentinel energy. So I would add Hell essence on top of argent energy.

 

[KieranH10]

I see, thanks for the input, I added Hell Essence to their energy source.

 

[DTG499]

I think the Kardashev level can be at least 2. Because humanity at this point had an energy crisis that spanned the entire solar system and argent energy was going to solve it. Also minor tweak, hell essence is the one that is made from living souls and argent energy is just when you combine that with sentinel energy.

 

[KieranH10]

I don't think humanity in Doom harnessed the full potential of the Sun, we'd likely see the huge Dyson sphere or something similar in the sky.

changed it.

 

[DTG499]

Ah yes I was thinking in terms of the tiering system lol. Defiantly at least type 1 then.

 

[KieranH10]

lol. Yeah At least Type 1 should be fine.

 

[Firestorm808]

Can we settle for At least Massively Hypersonic+, possibly higher?

Also, the Urdak Shaking calc was accepted for the low end.

 

[KieranH10]

I'd be fine with that, while there has been multiple supposed lasers and light attacks in Doom, we have no way of clarifying if they're legit, so a possibly higher would work.

Neato.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Where does the Massively Hypersonic+ come from again; the lightning? Also, the light-speed stuff seems inconsistent if even fodder Imps can react to them.

 

[KieranH10]

Yeah it's the Khan Maykrs lightning, there's also many MHS feats to back it up.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

So when we gettin 1-A Doomguy?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

1-A Doomguy is a joke...

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I think that was the joke...

...I hope that was the joke...

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

That's because it is a joke.

 

[KieranH10]

Doot Revenant profile when?

 

[RinneItachi]

Someone has to make a Doot Revenant profile on Joke Battles Wiki now. Also inb4 Doomslayer gets a Low 1-C statement because Hell is 6D. "And Doomslayer's rage killed Hell, the end".

 

[RinneItachi]

Wait guys! Lucifer Morningstar from DC is supposed to be the devil. The devil is a demon. Doomslayer is stronger than any demon. That means Doomslayer is stronger than Lucifer Morningstar! Highend 1-A Doomslayer confirmed.

 

[KieranH10]

lol. Considering battle mode is supposedly canon a Doot Revenant image on the profile would probably actually be legit if we gave it a gallery.

 

[Firestorm808]

@DarkDragonMedeus

When did Imps react to lightning attacks?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm not talking about the lightning, but people are bringing up the "Laser stuff" which someone on the Discord conference group mentioned that being too inconsistent given the Chaingun's statement.

 

[Firestorm808]

Discord group? Can I join?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I have asked the others if it's okay, but want some group opinions first.

 

[Firestorm808]

Okay.

 

[Fupdumpthegump]

Is there anyone willing to actually calculate that massive cannon that shot Doomguy out, it's shown it can easily violently fragment/pulverize massive debris that was most likely thrown from Mars. Probably a useless feat but I'm interested to see what it could yield.

 

[Hellbeast1]

You mean the Ion cannion

That was calced at 9-A I believe

 

[Firestorm808]

Is the Ion Cannon Ammunition an explosive and or a blunt object?

My calculation of Doomguy and the Ion Canon is based on his flight speed.

 

[KieranH10]

The Ion cannon has a calc based on KE I think, but it destroying rocks wasn't calced

I can do an extremely quick, extremely basic, extremely rough calc for now but i'd have to gather some images before I could accurately do it.

Assuming the rock has a diameter of around 50m and is generally spherical (This seems to be much bigger than what it is but it can give a high end for now), we get a total volume of 65449850000cc

Violent frag for rock = 69j/cc (nice), this gives a total energy of 4.5160397e+12J, or Low 7-C (1.08 Kilotons)

Pulverization = 214j/cc, which gives us a final energy of 1.4006268e+13, still Low 7-C (3.35 Kilotons)

 

[Hellbeast1]

Dang

 

[KieranH10]

Dang indeed. I might do a full calc if it's wanted. I guess it could still be a supporting feat.