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Aizen Sosuke VS Zeref Dragneel

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Being able to resist regular mind hax doesn't mean you can resist mind manipulation that messes with fate/future sight of Yhwach.
The basis of mind hax is to manipulate the mental processes of the target. This can be done in various ways, such as altering the perception of reality, creating memories or controlling thoughts. The mind manipulation that distorted Yhwach's fate/future vision is also based on this foundation. you only need to be resistant to mind manipulation to prevent these foundations, and since zeref has resistance, this means he can resist
 
Man, how many times do I have to say that Aizen's resistance to neo eclipse was proven 1-2 pages ago + Kyoka Suigetsu, you said it was your idea, I already respect your opinion but I don't think so
I'm waiting for you to reply to that message and prove that I didn't reply to it. Just Prove it.
 
The basis of mind hax is to manipulate the mental processes of the target. This can be done in various ways, such as altering the perception of reality, creating memories or controlling thoughts. The mind manipulation that distorted Yhwach's fate/future vision is also based on this foundation. you only need to be resistant to mind manipulation to prevent these foundations, and since zeref has resistance, this means he can resist
Not the same. What you are saying is No Limit Fallacy.
 
He can free himself from the influence of Zeref ks by rewinding time. And when he rewinds time, he can reset the universe. (It can also reset timeline when rewinding.)
Dude, are you even reading what I wrote? In order for Zeref to think that he can turn back time, he must first get rid of the KS effect, otherwise he cannot turn back time.
 
Dude, are you even reading what I wrote? In order for Zeref to think that he can turn back time, he must first get rid of the KS effect, otherwise he cannot turn back time.
Zeref doesn't wrap it voluntarily anyway, man, this process works passively, you can look at it from the vsb profile.
 
I'm waiting for you to reply to that message and prove that I didn't reply to it. Just Prove it.
First of all, I do not advocate that it be passive, I think it will become active directly as it will spread throughout the universe.
The second thing you said is the same as the first.
Third, I stated that Aizen would be defeated with superiority.
Fourth, how many times will I point out that there is resistance with hogyoku, I explained above. Before the reset, I believe that Kyoka would not be able to escape both Hogyoku's resistance and Suigetsu's absolute hypnosis, nor could she turn back time in hypnosis.
 
First of all, I do not advocate that it be passive, I think it will become active directly as it will spread throughout the universe.
The second thing you said is the same as the first.
Third, I stated that Aizen would be defeated with superiority.
Fourth, how many times will I point out that there is resistance with hogyoku, I explained above. Before the reset, I believe that Kyoka would not be able to escape both Hogyoku's resistance and Suigetsu's absolute hypnosis, nor could she turn back time in hypnosis.
It doesn't mean anything that you think these things, after all, it's your opinion and I respect it.

But I want you to know that zeref does not rewind time on his own will (he can do it on his own will), but this is not the case, time is passively rewound, so zeref will be able to get rid of the ks situation in this way.
 
It doesn't mean anything that you think these things, after all, it's your opinion and I respect it.

But I want you to know that zeref does not rewind time on his own will (he can do it on his own will), but this is not the case, time is passively rewound, so zeref will be able to get rid of the ks situation in this way.
Look man, I'm tired of saying this. Even if time is turned back, Aizen will not be affected. There is an answer 2-3 pages ago that this is resistance. From now on, the job falls to the ministers. There's no point in prolonging this. This is your opinion, I respect it.
 
Look man, I'm tired of saying this. Even if time is turned back, Aizen will not be affected. There is an answer 2-3 pages ago that this is resistance. From now on, the job falls to the ministers. There's no point in prolonging this. This is your opinion, I respect it.
No one says aizen is affected by him turning back time, zeref gets rid of ks by passively turning back his own time. if he gets caught by ks again, he can get rid of him again. if you say this cycle happens, while zeref passively turns back time, he resets the timeline thanks to the neo eclipse and there is no bleach universe left. this is a direct win because zeref kills aizen (in fact, we can say that he destroys his universe)
 
No one says aizen is affected by him turning back time, zeref gets rid of ks by passively turning back his own time. if he gets caught by ks again, he can get rid of him again. if you say this cycle happens, while zeref passively turns back time, he resets the timeline thanks to the neo eclipse and there is no bleach universe left. this is a direct win because zeref kills aizen (in fact, we can say that he destroys his universe)
. Judging by Garganta's scale, Aizen can fulfill his desires, see the future, and even change it with his Hogyoku. If it is in a difficult situation, it will become stronger through reactive evolution. Additionally, Hogyoku can affect the entire cosmology. This is pointless.

Now we come to the visible votes.
 
Judging by Garganta's scale, Aizen can fulfill his desires, see the future, and even change it with his Hogyoku. If it is in a difficult situation, it will become stronger through reactive evolution. Additionally, Hogyoku can affect the entire cosmology. This is pointless.

Now we come to the visible votes.
Dude, it doesn't matter because that cosmology is going to disappear anyway.

ok
 
Aizen had Mid godly which Zeref can't do shit about lol.
Aizen has like 10+ layers of soul hax, which means zeref just gets permanently crushed, doesn't matter whether he has regen or not as Reiatsu crush is constant.
So he basically incaps zeref passively.

And Aizen resists space time manipulation as well.
He doesn't need KS
 
Aizen had Mid godly which Zeref can't do shit about lol.
Aizen has like 10+ layers of soul hax, which means zeref just gets permanently crushed, doesn't matter whether he has regen or not as Reiatsu crush is constant.
So he basically incaps zeref passively.
Btw 5, since hax layers purchases changed, I guess it was last reduced to 5 layers
 
Aizen had Mid godly which Zeref can't do shit about lol.
Aizen has like 10+ layers of soul hax, which means zeref just gets permanently crushed, doesn't matter whether he has regen or not as Reiatsu crush is constant.
So he basically incaps zeref passively.

And Aizen resists space time manipulation as well.
He doesn't need KS
I count this as a vote for Aizen
 
No one says aizen is affected by him turning back time, zeref gets rid of ks by passively turning back his own time. if he gets caught by ks again, he can get rid of him again. if you say this cycle happens, while zeref passively turns back time, he resets the timeline thanks to the neo eclipse and there is no bleach universe left. this is a direct win because zeref kills aizen (in fact, we can say that he destroys his universe)
First of all, Neo Eclipse isn't something Zeref call pull out randomly. Requires him to go into the FT guild and walk out the door, secondly he'd need to clash with the SK if he tried to reset the universe so that's a no go since the SK passively sustaining the verse.


Secondly, Zeref cannot undo mind hax if it's already effected him. Yhwach who's essentially like Zeref but on steroids couldn't escape after being caught so Zeref isn't either.
 
First of all, Neo Eclipse isn't something Zeref call pull out randomly. Requires him to go into the FT guild and walk out the door, secondly he'd need to clash with the SK if he tried to reset the universe so that's a no go since the SK passively sustaining the verse.


Secondly, Zeref cannot undo mind hax if it's already effected him. Yhwach who's essentially like Zeref but on steroids couldn't escape after being caught so Zeref isn't either.
I have Question for you. Will you vote in this comparison? If so, who is it for?
 
I'm telling you that even if he manipulates the organs, nothing will change, Zeref is resistant to everything mental and spiritual + show me what I didn't answer?
Zeref is not resistant to mind manipulation on Aizen's level. His mind hax effected the same dude who can see an infinite amount of fates and futures and manipulate said futures passively.


Zeref has no answer to getting mind haxxed, once his mind is effected there's nothing for him to do. Also Aizen doesn't effect organs, blud what are you on?
 
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