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Alright, so my first-ever thread based around JJBA didn't pass at all. In hindsight, giving GER infinite speed was jumping the gun just a tad bit for a beginning CRT... However, I'm far from one to give up on my promises, said promises being that I'd up and downscale most of the popular JJBA characters on this wiki. Without a singular doubt, I intend to do just that. However, with this next CRT I've decided to make. I've chosen to scale back a bit on upgrade leaps and focus on every anti-Jojo powerscaller's worst nightmare. Polnareff and his trusty stand, Silver Chariot. Said stand which I hope to get to MFTL+ with a quick calc, not crazily far into it, but about 2X times the minimum needed. Not you though Polnareff, you can just stay there with your baseline SOL reaction tiering... Anyway, let's begin!
First things first, however:
Let me just post links to every thread I referenced while making this post. Got most of my base arguments from Chariot190's own responses in these threads which, let me tell you, saved me a TON of time researching and such. I know he'll most definitely see this CRT sooner rather than later, so, thanks in advance man. Also, please read through each thread to get a basic idea of what I'm talking about. If you don't feel like doing all that...just read each of Chariot190's responses, M3X_2.0's own large post at the top of the first link, and kinda skim through the rest I suppose?
Let's divide 2309.09/100, right? Then let's take 23.0909 and times it by whatever value you want. If you want to say Silver Chariot slowed Hanged Man's movements down 95%, then use 95. 23.0909 x 95 = 2193.6355 or 2193.63 c. Barely knocking off much, and still 2X into MFTL+. Hell, this even STILL rings true if you even want to say something outlandish as Silver Chariot only slowed down Hanged Man's movements via sheer speed by 45%. Doing the math nets you 1039.0905 or 1039.09 c, barely into MFTL+ territory but yes, still there. So, as I hope you can see, using Hanged Man's lack of movement. I can conformably get Silver Chariot to MFTL+ using a low ball of, at least, 95%. Mid ball, in my mind, would be about 99%. Finally, for a high ball, let's just say 99.9%. I personally don't think you could go any lower in percentages from 95%, but that's just my view. In any case, let's now go over those who obviously scale.
Finally, DIO...
Simply the fact that The World has stalemated Star Platinum itself MULTIPLE TIMES OVER is enough for The World to scale to that MFTL+ rating, even standing slightly above Star Platinum by DIO's own words. While completely on par in terms of strength, nobody's questioning that, The World IS shown to be slightly faster than SP. Ever-so minorly, but the difference is visibly there.
Closing this out, and all I have to say is...
"You get an "At least MFTL+ rating", and you get a "At least MFTL+ rating", and you get a "At least MFTL+ rating", everybody gets a "At least MFTL+ rating"!
Well, not everybody...but you get my point...
Alright, so my first-ever thread based around JJBA didn't pass at all. In hindsight, giving GER infinite speed was jumping the gun just a tad bit for a beginning CRT... However, I'm far from one to give up on my promises, said promises being that I'd up and downscale most of the popular JJBA characters on this wiki. Without a singular doubt, I intend to do just that. However, with this next CRT I've decided to make. I've chosen to scale back a bit on upgrade leaps and focus on every anti-Jojo powerscaller's worst nightmare. Polnareff and his trusty stand, Silver Chariot. Said stand which I hope to get to MFTL+ with a quick calc, not crazily far into it, but about 2X times the minimum needed. Not you though Polnareff, you can just stay there with your baseline SOL reaction tiering... Anyway, let's begin!
First things first, however:
Let me just post links to every thread I referenced while making this post. Got most of my base arguments from Chariot190's own responses in these threads which, let me tell you, saved me a TON of time researching and such. I know he'll most definitely see this CRT sooner rather than later, so, thanks in advance man. Also, please read through each thread to get a basic idea of what I'm talking about. If you don't feel like doing all that...just read each of Chariot190's responses, M3X_2.0's own large post at the top of the first link, and kinda skim through the rest I suppose?
JoJo's Bizarre Adventures: Speed CRT (Part 2 to 6)
Hello fellas. This is the JoJo Speed CRT. Currently, a lot of characters are scaled as "Massively FTL" or "Massively FTL reactions", but the rating comes from Silver Chariot, one of the fastest Stands in JoJo. Even Stands like Crazy Diamond and Echoes are rated as "Massively FTL", when it's...
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Let's slow down a little (JJBA speed downgrade)
I surprisingly never saw any kind of downgrade about this, but MFTL for everyone and their grandmother is kinda incoherent, so let's go see everything regarding this: Polnareff and Hanged Man Basically the origin of the rating (since every others feats seems to be between FTL and FTL+); coming...
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JoJo speed downgrade
I have no issue with FTL JoJo. I think that this is consistent. But MFTL JoJo comes from a calculation that puts Silver Chariot at 225c due to slashing Hanged Man. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/JoJo_Part_3_-_Chariot_And_The_Speed_Of_Light While the calc checks out, the issue...
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Now, we can start, but not before I mention one last thing!
I, am not, bringing up Silver Chariot's actual sword swing itself in this CRT at all! I shall only be talking about its movements up to that point and how said movements affected Hanged Man's own, or lack thereof in this case. While Death Battle did calculate the feat out to over 1500 c, well above the barrier to MFTL+, when talking about Chariot's swing. From what I see, that calc wasn't accepted for some reason, but given Death Battle's own spotty history with calcs... I can see why it may have been thrown out and unused. Going through one of the threads made by a user named M3X_2.0 with help from Chariot190, I noticed that a calced out version on this wiki apparently came out to 225 c. That seemed a little low to me, especially when a handful of other sources calced the slicing feat out far higher. Values have been thrown around like 560 c to even 860 c on this very same wiki, so I don't really know at this point. Anyway, with that out of the way, let's actually get into what I feel bumps Silver Chariot up a tier, Jotaro and DIO obviously jumping to the same tier up off him.
Alright, so I watched a short clip of Polnareff vs Hanged Man over and over again a week ago or so. Yet, I simply found something odd about Hanged Man's stillness as soon as Silver Chariot was summoned in the middle of him and the gold coin, as directed by Polnareff himself obviously given Chariot's weakness in the form of total blindness. Chariot190 explains this in far more detail when he responded to other people in the threads listed above, so I won't do it here. Anyway, I decided to run the video through watchframebyframe.com, and I've found that Hanged Man's movements grinded to a direct halt as soon as Silver Chariot fully appeared infront of him mid-movement. Yes, while moving to another reflection as an actual light beam, Silver Chariot manages to move infront of him while Hanged Man appears almost...frozen in time. This timeframe ranges from about 03:19:45 / 04:37:54 to 03:19:85 / 04:37:54 using the aforementioned site, in which Hanged Man doesn't move in the slightest. Keep in mind, as I said, Hanged Man is a beam of LIGHT, completely stopped infront of Chariot. This also goes for the clouds in the background as well as the coin itself that Hanged Man was trying to get to. In fact, the only point in which Hanged Man does begin to ever-so lightly move again is AFTER Silver Chariot slices downwards. Fairly impressive, but what does this mean for any calc's? Well...I, am not, bringing up Silver Chariot's actual sword swing itself in this CRT at all! I shall only be talking about its movements up to that point and how said movements affected Hanged Man's own, or lack thereof in this case. While Death Battle did calculate the feat out to over 1500 c, well above the barrier to MFTL+, when talking about Chariot's swing. From what I see, that calc wasn't accepted for some reason, but given Death Battle's own spotty history with calcs... I can see why it may have been thrown out and unused. Going through one of the threads made by a user named M3X_2.0 with help from Chariot190, I noticed that a calced out version on this wiki apparently came out to 225 c. That seemed a little low to me, especially when a handful of other sources calced the slicing feat out far higher. Values have been thrown around like 560 c to even 860 c on this very same wiki, so I don't really know at this point. Anyway, with that out of the way, let's actually get into what I feel bumps Silver Chariot up a tier, Jotaro and DIO obviously jumping to the same tier up off him.
The Calc itself:
As detailed out on the common calc page on this wiki, seeing light as standing still is considered 2309.09c or Massively FTL+- Speed to View Light as Standing Still = (299792458 / 0.00275) * 6.35 = 692248039381.81 m/s; 2309.09c (Massively FTL+)
Well. to preemptively stop this question from being raised in the comments. I'll humor this, even if it is clearly seen that Hanged Man doesn't move a single micrometer while Silver Chariot is fully formed infront of the light-based stand.Let's divide 2309.09/100, right? Then let's take 23.0909 and times it by whatever value you want. If you want to say Silver Chariot slowed Hanged Man's movements down 95%, then use 95. 23.0909 x 95 = 2193.6355 or 2193.63 c. Barely knocking off much, and still 2X into MFTL+. Hell, this even STILL rings true if you even want to say something outlandish as Silver Chariot only slowed down Hanged Man's movements via sheer speed by 45%. Doing the math nets you 1039.0905 or 1039.09 c, barely into MFTL+ territory but yes, still there. So, as I hope you can see, using Hanged Man's lack of movement. I can conformably get Silver Chariot to MFTL+ using a low ball of, at least, 95%. Mid ball, in my mind, would be about 99%. Finally, for a high ball, let's just say 99.9%. I personally don't think you could go any lower in percentages from 95%, but that's just my view. In any case, let's now go over those who obviously scale.
Jotaro
What we know: Anubis, as a stand, amps up it's users own strength and, most importantly, speed with every slash by an unknown multiplier. It also reacts and remembers an opponent's previously used technique, as it did with Silver Chariot shooting it's sword by getting fast enough to block it at point-blank range. After this, Jotaro finally gets done with watching as Polnareff clearly gets overwhelmed by an enemy stand user, summoning Star Platinum to ORA Khan mid-slash with relative ease. Khan goes out the window with SP pretty handily catching Anubis with both hands afterwards, proceeding to snap the sword in half. Anubis ends up possessing Polnareff after some plot-based shenanigans though, and with one hand held behind his back, begins to somewhat overwhelm Jotaro. HOWEVER, during this small scuffle, Jotaro IS stated to be heavily holding back while playing all defense against Polnareff's slashes, that's still his friend holding that sword after all, possessed or not. Jotaro finds himself in a little more trouble however when Polnareff has Silver Chariot dual-wield with Anubis. With two swords thrown into the equation, and Silver Chariot mentally unburdened by Polnareff's own mind. Jotaro himself notes that he can't hold back against Polnareff now or he'll die for sure. The funny thing is, and this is what grants Jotaro that MFTL+ rating... When Anubis is held by something, it amplifies that things speed by an unknown multiplier. Now, given Polnareff mentally isn't at the wheel anymore as he's being possessed, and Silver Chariot's physically holding Anubis at this point. Guess what that means? Star Platinum is literally reacting to and successfully countering a MFTL+ stand that's getting faster and faster with each slash, with major difficulty as the fight nears it's end admittedly, but he's still doing it. The two swords thing doesn't help Star Platinum in the slightest, but I'm sure Star Platinum's exceptional precision aided here and there with that. Anyway, he's stated multiple times over to be the fastest stand in early Part 4, pre-Part 5 for a reason, but I'm sure Chariot190 can grab scans for any doubters in the comments along with some statements...
Finally, DIO...
Simply the fact that The World has stalemated Star Platinum itself MULTIPLE TIMES OVER is enough for The World to scale to that MFTL+ rating, even standing slightly above Star Platinum by DIO's own words. While completely on par in terms of strength, nobody's questioning that, The World IS shown to be slightly faster than SP. Ever-so minorly, but the difference is visibly there.
Closing this out, and all I have to say is...
"You get an "At least MFTL+ rating", and you get a "At least MFTL+ rating", and you get a "At least MFTL+ rating", everybody gets a "At least MFTL+ rating"!
Well, not everybody...but you get my point...