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[Theoretical]

if possible and impossible be taken as "possible to exist" and "not possible to exist", an "impossible world" that does in fact exist (physically/materialized/actualized) would be by definition a contradiction.

It's not that it existing is a contradiction it's that the fact that it's logically contradictory means it doesn't exist cause that implies contradictions can truly be truth apt which contradicts logic

The second part of your post somewhat reminds me of Kant's thing-in-itself. The very fact we are not only separate, but only capable of perceiving anything that is not our own consciousness by process that necessarily affect the way we perceive things, implies anything we know outside of said consciousness is an image of that thing.

It's similar bohms Implicate Order and wholeness book because it also tries to investigate the relationship between the consciousness and reality but still different, you should read that book it's pretty interesting on the side note I wonder if we'll ever find out about the true nature of our consciousness. I remember even chalmer posits the consciousness to be ineffable in itself with his "hard problem".

But I would argue we do not comprehend "Absolute Infinity", we comprehend what the person is trying to convey through the evocation of such a concept, which would be very different. We as humans have enormous diffulty even understanding the idea of something some orders of magnetude larger, to say we can comprehend infinity would be awkward. I would even argue we can only conceive Infinite as a "process that is never ending" or something of the sort, and that is not Infinite in itself, merely something continuous. To comprehend something Infinite we would have ourselfs to be in someway Infinite, I would say

True

It's actually legit.

Yeah but you should probably hold off in making any Nasuverse threads, there have been dozens gotta relax and plan shit properly now.

I mean, we thought omnipotence was the highest and nothing could be above it, and then we got Negative theology which is >omnipotence. In the future we will get something above negative theology.

There have been proposals for things above negative theology, the closest one is pataphysics actually but it also isn't legit when you try to argue that.

Also you can somewhat treat negative theology as another form of omnipotence, in ontology there are many ways posited for God being omnipotent (relationships between finite and infinite beings, pure and impure beings, absolute and contingent beings and so forth).

Never, unless someone open another philosophy book and cook it with math

Gonna be a hard task for the poor person, the only way to argue negative theology being below something is by making a book that's like a critique on negative theology, then from there you successfully limit it one way or another then you can present another theory above it.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

It's not that it existing is a contradiction it's that the fact that it's logically contradictory means it doesn't exist cause that implies contradictions can truly be truth apt which contradicts logic

It's similar bohms Implicate Order and wholeness book because it also tries to investigate the relationship between the consciousness and reality but still different, you should read that book it's pretty interesting on the side note I wonder if we'll ever find out about the true nature of our consciousness. I remember even chalmer posits the consciousness to be ineffable in itself with his "hard problem".


True

Yeah but you should probably hold off in making any Nasuverse threads, there have been dozens gotta relax and plan shit properly now.

There have been proposals for things above negative theology, the closest one is pataphysics actually but it also isn't legit when you try to argue that.

Why is pataphysics above negative theology exactly? Isn't pataphysics something like super-metaphysics?

Also you can somewhat treat negative theology as another form of omnipotence, in ontology there are many ways posited for God being omnipotent (relationships between finite and infinite beings, pure and impure beings, absolute and contingent beings and so forth).

Gonna be a hard task for the poor person, the only way to argue negative theology being below something is by making a book that's like a critique on negative theology, then from there you successfully limit it one way or another then you can present another theory above it.

 

[Ubdon]

Gonna be a hard task for the poor person, the only way to argue negative theology being below something is by making a book that's like a critique on negative theology, then from there you successfully limit it one way or another then you can present another theory above it.

Just make book about bigger theology than this one

 

[Ubdon]

And prove that goku has it

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

And prove that goku has it

goku has his drip and blanco form. That>>>>>>>>>>negative theology.

 

[Tdjwo]

Why is pataphysics above negative theology exactly? Isn't pataphysics something like super-metaphysics?

He never said Pataphysics is above Negative theology. He only said people tried to argue it was but it really isn't.

 

[Tdjwo]

Yeah but you should probably hold off in making any Nasuverse threads, there have been dozens gotta relax and plan shit properly now.

Bold of you to assume I'm ever making any upgrade thread for the verse again The verse has no supporters or staffs and many people hate the verse. I don't have any time to defend the verse for days just for it to be rejected. Once this taoism/root crt gets concluded after the staffs decide where to put negative theology, I'm not going to attempt to upgrade the verse anymore regardless of how blatant the justifications are.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

He never said Pataphysics is above Negative theology. He only said people tried to argue it was but it really isn't.

didn't he say bohms implicate and explicate order scale to negative theology somewhere?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Bold of you to assume I'm ever making any upgrade thread for the verse again The verse has no supporters or staffs and many people hate the verse. I don't have any time to defend the verse for days just for it to be rejected. Once this taoism/root crt gets concluded after the staffs decide where to put negative theology, I'm not going to attempt to upgrade the verse anymore regardless of how blatant the justifications are.

Bro atleast the verse is 1-A and one of the stronger one at that. I have also seen many people who disagreed with 1-A nasuverse before now agrees with it .umineko and shinza got shafted so hard

 

[Tdjwo]

Bro atleast the verse is 1-A and one of the stronger one at that. I have also seen many people who disagreed with 1-A nasuverse before now agrees with it .umineko and shinza got shafted so hard

The thing is, the reason I attempted upgrading the verse is because of the new low 1A rule that was going to screw up the entire verse to 1C. If I upgraded the verse to High 1A or 0 and the new rule then affects the verse, it would be taken back to 1A at most. But with how things are going, the root would be 1C and at this point, I'm less concerned about it now.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

The thing is, the reason I attempted upgrading the verse is because of the new low 1A rule that was going to screw up the entire verse to 1C. If I upgraded the verse to High 1A or 0 and the new rule then affects the verse, it would be taken back to 1A at most. But with how things are going, the root would be 1C and at this point, I'm less concerned about it now.

don't you have the high 1-B scan? How solid it is exactly?

 

[Theoretical]

Why is pataphysics above negative theology exactly? Isn't pataphysics something like super-metaphysics?

It's not above negative theology it's just that the argument can be made, pataphysics has many definitions but I'm pretty sure the clear definition is that it's the virtuality of everything, unknown and known; side comment its also ineffable but not in the same sense that negative theology is. It's ineffable specifically because if you define it as anything but virtuality of everything you'll define a subset of pataphysics because you take it as one thing which pataphysics includes all things even that one thing.

It's ineffability is similar to absolute infinity with its reflection principles and its ineffability in von nuemans universe, because human knowledge always extends continously we can't really understand the full scope of pataphysics without running into the paradox of it just being a property inside pataphysics or of its actually pataphysics.

The argument is just everything every ideation of humanity includes negative theology, but the argument ultimately fails because negative theology exists outside of thought whether we have limits in knowledge, and another is its defining negative theology with the term "thing" which also doesn't capture the true essence of negative theology.

In summary the argument can be made by ultimately just like most proposals you have limit negative theology for pataphysics to be above it.

didn't he say bohms implicate and explicate order scale to negative theology somewhere?

Na, just the argument can be made.

Just make book about bigger theology than this one

Hard task.

And prove that goku has it

He'd still be below anos o

don't you have the high 1-B scan? How solid it is exactly?

Seems solid enough just depends on how you present it.
n very existent misfit solos weak goku and weak root 1AH.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Seems solid enough just depends on how you present it.

It's the statement about transcendence right?

 

[Theoretical]

It's the statement about transcendence right?

Yeah roa's rant

 

[Tdjwo]

Yeah roa's rant

What's funny is, we already had these scans months ago lol. Remember when you made the cosmology blog on CSAP, you used this as a justification for higher dimensional existence in the verse. But we never used it to justify infinite higher dimensions.

 

[Ubdon]

He'd still be below anos o

You should be more careful with a statement like this

Gokuists and Saitamaists are real thing and you don't know where they could hide

 

[Ubdon]

The thing is, the reason I attempted upgrading the verse is because of the new low 1A rule that was going to screw up the entire verse to 1C. If I upgraded the verse to High 1A or 0 and the new rule then affects the verse, it would be taken back to 1A at most. But with how things are going, the root would be 1C and at this point, I'm less concerned about it now.

Good thing staff have stuff irl so they don't care about that crt

 

[Tdjwo]

I should be more careful with a statement like this

Gokuists and Saitamaists are real thing and you don't know where they could hide

This man really trying to set Theo up

 

[Tdjwo]

Good thing staff have stuff irl so they don't care about that crt

What staff? Nasuverse doesn't have staff

 

[Ubdon]

This man really trying to set Theo up

Happens

 

[Ubdon]

What staff? Nasuverse doesn't have staff

Crimson is one

I just said no one cares about low 1-a crt

 

[Tdjwo]

Crimson is one

Bro is dead

I just said no one cares about low 1-a crt

Oh f*k the low 1A crt. Everybody except Rakih is trying to avoid the thread. Can't blame them tho.

 

[Ubdon]

Bro is dead

He just lazy and has other verses to like

 

[Theoretical]

Remember when you made the cosmology blog on CSAP, you used this as a justification for higher dimensional existence in the verse. But we never used it to justify infinite higher dimensions.

Ye

 

[Theoretical]

I read the ciel route a while back, considering it has been translated I'm probably gonna replay it again

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

don't you have the high 1-B scan? How solid it is exactly?

considering roa floats in and out of the root for fun, pretty solid

 

[Tdjwo]

I read the ciel route a while back, considering it has been translated I'm probably gonna replay it again

I have the patch but I dont know how to download and play it. My phone doesn't accept the patch.

 

[Overlord_Darkness]

considering roa floats in and out of the root for fun, pretty solid

I think that Roa's fit shows how Root is not so all-powerful as guys here try to claim

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I think that Roa's fit shows how Root is not so all-powerful as guys here try to claim

everything returns to the root when they die, nothing about roa contradicts anything

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I have the patch but I dont know how to download and play it. My phone doesn't accept the patch.

just get a scan and ask a translator to do it ig

 

[BoastJr]

Anos weak thats the funniest thing I've heard and the moment you mentioned comp goku beating anos yeah at that point you downplayed him to much get comp goku to interact with anos oh wait he doesn't anos has layerd nothingness duality causality meaning comp goku can't interact with anos transceds nothingness duality causality and there layerd so anos violates the verse of comp goku neg diff
The moment you said Comp Goku beats Anos = .
Also other MFS who mentioned has atleast High outerversal scaling. Even Yogiri can't beat them why Anos needs to beat them ?
Anos negs any fate characters except Shiki.
The moment you called Anos weak without even knowing any shit about other characters you mentioned shows you are some clown who lacks knowledge on how to scale.
SCP is worst piece of fiction to exists and MGK is not just powerscaling verse. If you can't enjoy the series go cry somewhere else
Anos transceds nothingness duality causality and nobody in dragon ball can even interact with anos Anos slams the verse no diff Anos use magic eyes of chaotic destruction and venuzdonoa and the verse is gone
What anos in on very existent misfit is 1AH only for strat like grham

 

[Tdjwo]

Anos weak thats the funniest thing I've heard and the moment you mentioned comp goku beating anos yeah at that point you downplayed him to much get comp goku to interact with anos oh wait he doesn't anos has layerd nothingness duality causality meaning comp goku can't interact with anos transceds nothingness duality causality and there layerd so anos violates the verse of comp goku neg diff
The moment you said Comp Goku beats Anos = .
Also other MFS who mentioned has atleast High outerversal scaling. Even Yogiri can't beat them why Anos needs to beat them ?
Anos negs any fate characters except Shiki.
The moment you called Anos weak without even knowing any shit about other characters you mentioned shows you are some clown who lacks knowledge on how to scale.
SCP is worst piece of fiction to exists and MGK is not just powerscaling verse. If you can't enjoy the series go cry somewhere else
Anos transceds nothingness duality causality and nobody in dragon ball can even interact with anos Anos slams the verse no diff Anos use magic eyes of chaotic destruction and venuzdonoa and the verse is gone
What anos in on very existent misfit is 1AH only for strat like grham

Who made this?

 

[Iiliminal]

Anos weak thats the funniest thing I've heard and the moment you mentioned comp goku beating anos yeah at that point you downplayed him to much get comp goku to interact with anos oh wait he doesn't anos has layerd nothingness duality causality meaning comp goku can't interact with anos transceds nothingness duality causality and there layerd so anos violates the verse of comp goku neg diff
The moment you said Comp Goku beats Anos = .
Also other MFS who mentioned has atleast High outerversal scaling. Even Yogiri can't beat them why Anos needs to beat them ?
Anos negs any fate characters except Shiki.
The moment you called Anos weak without even knowing any shit about other characters you mentioned shows you are some clown who lacks knowledge on how to scale.
SCP is worst piece of fiction to exists and MGK is not just powerscaling verse. If you can't enjoy the series go cry somewhere else
Anos transceds nothingness duality causality and nobody in dragon ball can even interact with anos Anos slams the verse no diff Anos use magic eyes of chaotic destruction and venuzdonoa and the verse is gone
What anos in on very existent misfit is 1AH only for strat like grham

ON HIS VERY EXISTENCE

 

[BoastJr]

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Plunets > Boundlands > Concepts > Pcincipals

Shiki > On very existent misfit 1AH Anos LoD FROM > Grham

Who made this?

yeah its from a reddit thread where one guy said "anos is weak" and "comp goku > anos"

this one

 

[Tdjwo]

Till this day, it's impossible to tell who's worse between Goku fanboys, Anos fanboys, and Masada fanboys. The holy trinity of wankings.
Itachi fans are just as bad too.

 

[Ubdon]

Till this day, it's impossible to tell who's worse between Goku fanboys, Anos fanboys, and Masada fanboys. The holy trinity of wankings.
Itachi fans are just as bad too.

Someone pretend Saitama vs Jesus and Johan vs Hitler don't exist

 

[Tdjwo]

Someone pretend Saitama vs Jesus and Johan vs Hitler don't exist

Damn I forgot about Saitama fanboys. The list just keeps getting bigger.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Don't forget arcueid (fodder) fanboys

 

[Iiliminal]

Don't forget arcueid (fodder) fanboys

Boota victim

Till this day, it's impossible to tell who's worse between Goku fanboys, Anos fanboys, and Masada fanboys. The holy trinity of wankings.
Itachi fans are just as bad too.

goku fanboys are based

 

[Tdjwo]

goku fanboys are based

The definition of based as lost its meaning