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Major DBZ and DBS Upgrades (Since Nobody is Unlocking the 2-C Crt)

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Sir_Marvulous said:
Why do we need to revisit the infinite universe 💀

Every bit of information on that topic was gone over in that thread and there were even second translation checks near the end and they were in fact accurate, with everything pointing towards the universe being infinite in size
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Well, I don't think you need it, Medeus claimed that the universe is definitely infinite and he agrees with that, but the @Deagonx was asking about the Universe being infinite.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Seems like it.
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I’ve been reading this crt it doesn’t seem that way it’s just discussing infinite speed isn’t consistent within the series (though I’d like to see scans so I could get a full opinion) and we got the translations checked many times as Marvelous said I could just see the ki explosion speed feat being listed as an outlier and a note explaining why using T.o.P as an example
 
godofice said:
I’ve been reading this crt it doesn’t seem that way it’s just discussing infinite speed isn’t consistent within the series (though I’d like to see scans so I could get a full opinion) and we got the translations checked many times as Marvelous said I could just see the ki explosion speed feat being listed as an outlier and a note explaining why using T.o.P as an example
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Js, why not instead of infinite speed, tht they are just hella far is massively mftl+? Like higher than wats currently put out? Too vague?
 
K_o_Karlyn said:
Js, why not instead of infinite speed, tht they are just hella far is massively mftl+? Like higher than wats currently put out? Too vague?
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Well ki explosion feat will probably be replaced with Beerus’s MFTL+ feat of traveling to where Beerus was at although I would like to see some clips of it telling us how long a fight took after each episode as well since that’s the argument against infinite speed but it’s all good
 
man I look away for a second and people are talking about 'revisiting' Infinite Universes again? As if we haven't been having threads discussing this in excruciating detail over the past what, three months?

As for infinite speed, for the people that say that the T.O.P is a contradiction to it. The TOP is a contradiction in of itself!
The Null Realm, the very place where it takes place already is stated to have no space nor time. It having a time limit is already a 'contradiction', I don't see this argument as a defeater for infinite speed
 
pineappleman said:
man I look away for a second and people are talking about 'revisiting' Infinite Universes again? As if we haven't been having threads discussing this in excruciating detail over the past what, three months?

As for infinite speed, for the people that say that the T.O.P is a contradiction to it. The TOP is a contradiction in of itself!
The Null Realm, the very place where it takes place already is stated to have no space nor time. It having a time limit is already a 'contradiction', I don't see this argument as a defeater for infinite speed
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I mean… 48 minutes The real thing we need is the clip that has tells us how much time is passing/passed in T.o.P during a fight since if that’s true that like 2 characters were fighting and then the narrator just tells us that time is passing during their fight then sure that’s an anti feat but I’ve been tryna look for that and I haven’t found any and the staff fra train was based off that I’m completely fine with infinite speed being not consistent but the argument is based off something someone thinks they recall in their memory with no clip to verify but I would like to see that clip
 
Reiner said:
Leave Infinite speed for other thread. It has been reduced to ashes regardless though. Being greedy always has bad consequences.
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I know but when the infinite speed crt does happen we actually need scans/clips instead of someone claiming something that happens that I never heard before and it’s treated as fact because they think they remember it
 
godofice said:
I know but when the infinite speed crt does happen we actually need scans/clips instead of someone claiming something that happens that I never heard before and it’s treated as fact because they think they remember it
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I mean, the time that has passed is said in the end of every ToP episode
 
omegabronic said:
I mean, the time that has passed is said in the end of every ToP episode
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I mean it’s only contradictory if time is passing if 2 people are fighting when said time passes hence why I said I wish we can see a clip but its nothing to worry about since it’ll be discussed in another crt
Reiner said:
Was time passed ever considered contradiction towards Infinite speed here? If so, alot of characters would be downgraded for getting Infinite speed done within finite time.
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I think it is Im not sure but I’m not quite sure if time is passing while they’re fighting
Ss3micah said:
You should be the one to take it up with then if your the person calling it wrong

Another example I can name is Archie Super Sonic fighting Enerjak Knuckles. Both move at immeasurable speeds and both were VISIBLY shown fighting from DAY LIGHT to NIGHT TIME showing a passage of time as TWO IMMEASURABLE SPEED beings fought each other
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Omega what do you think about this as a archie sonic fan?

(Anyways we should take this to db discussion now and let 2-C do it’s thing im glad 2-C bog is coming though)

 
Reiner said:
Was time passed ever considered contradiction towards Infinite speed here? If so, alot of characters would be downgraded for getting Infinite speed done within finite time.
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What are you talking about? That is not even close to being the point at all, plus why are tou still talking about speed when it was agreed to not do it here?
 
godofice said:
I mean… 48 minutes The real thing we need is the clip that has tells us how much time is passing/passed in T.o.P during a fight since if that’s true that like 2 characters were fighting and then the narrator just tells us that time is passing during their fight then sure that’s an anti feat but I’ve been tryna look for that and I haven’t found any and the staff fra train was based off that I’m completely fine with infinite speed being not consistent but the argument is based off something someone thinks they recall in their memory with no clip to verify but I would like to see that clip
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Bruh just go through an episode, at the end of every one in the ToP, the dude says how much time has passed, just find an ep where there was nothing but fighting (so a bunch).
If you have access to the episodes, which you clearly do because you just said you did, it should only take you mere moments to find an example given it's not just once or twice.
 
Well if DBS MFTL+ stuff gets downgraded due to infinite speed being an outlier, then it will 100% happen with Toei due to extremely similar contradictions that's arguably even more egregious. Why are we still talking about speed anyways?
 
Chariot190 said:
Bruh just go through an episode, at the end of every one in the ToP, the dude says how much time has passed, just find an ep where there was nothing but fighting (so a bunch).
If you have access to the episodes, which you clearly do because you just said you did, it should only take you mere moments to find an example given it's not just once or twice.
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Okay I’ll do that
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Well if DBS MFTL+ stuff gets downgraded due to infinite speed being an outlier, then it will 100% happen with Toei due to extremely similar contradictions that's arguably even more egregious. Why are we still talking about speed anyways?
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toei is fine but let’s talk about speed in another crt
 
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