X-Men Film Series General Discussion Thread

[RoTt35]

Maybe this feat of Jean discorporating several soldiers would be easier and faster to calculate at the moment. If someone can calculate it, I'd appreciate it very much, I can send all the evidence about Jean attacking on a subatomic level

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Maybe this feat of Jean discorporating several soldiers would be easier and faster to calculate at the moment. If someone can calculate it, I'd appreciate it very much, I can send all the evidence about Jean attacking on a subatomic level

There is about twenty guys there.

20 * 261 megatons = 5.22 gigatons (6-C)

 

[RoTt35]

I watched the scene on Disney+ and I counted 30-40 soldiers, it gave me a headache trying to count all of them and I gave up

 

[RoTt35]

More questions about more abilities: Resurrection? Bone Manipulation or Healing? What would this be?

If I understood this correctly when Jean died at the end of X2, her mind was still alive in an "astral journey" seeing her possible futures or something like that, then she decided that it was not her time and it seems that she revived herself, but when Wolverine killed her she wanted him to kill and this save her

Bumping this

 

[RoTt35]

I finished Jean's P&A, she doesn't have any resistances and is a glass cannon but Resurrection solves that, partially

 

[RoTt35]

I finished Jean's P&A

Should I make the CRT to update the profile now? The only thing left is to calc Jean destroying Alcatraz at the subatomic level, which can take a long time and would just change her Unknown rating

 

[RoTt35]

Here's the CRT

 

[RoTt35]

Now we have another OP Marvel character from FOX. Btw, is there any character from the Original Timeline who can scale from the 8-C TK of Base Jean?

 

[Dalesean027]

Now we have another OP Marvel character from FOX. Btw, is there any character from the Original Timeline who can scale from the 8-C TK of Base Jean?

This shit ain't fair man imma need the MCU and other Marvel Games to touch this level of feats for its high tiers (midnight suns has that level but that aside jesus)

 

[RoTt35]

This shit ain't fair man imma need the MCU and other Marvel Games to touch this level of feats for its high tiers (midnight suns has that level but that aside jesus)

Low 1-C K.E.V.I.N. says hi

 

[Dalesean027]

Low 1-C K.E.V.I.N. says hi

Nah he's bullshit sadly I need 5-B Marvel's Avenger Thor, Jane, and Odin

 

[Propellus]

This shit ain't fair man imma need the MCU and other Marvel Games to touch this level of feats for its high tiers (midnight suns has that level but that aside jesus)

Don't you literally have L&T Thor tiers for that enough?

 

[Dalesean027]

Don't you literally have L&T Thor tiers for that enough?

Nah that's actually not enough for me at all since we haven't seen them like shatter or blow up an entire planet on screen plus I need a tleast 5-B Captain Marvel because I actually like her a lot and I read her comics

 

[RoTt35]

Nah he's bullshit sadly

He has 2-A Plot Hax and HDE, so he stomps all the non-comics Marvel characters

 

[Propellus]

Low 1-C K.E.V.I.N. says hi

But still pretty bad in speed

 

[AnonymousBlank]

He has 2-A Plot Hax and HDE, so he stomps all the non-comics Marvel characters

Let’s be real, if you ask Chris Claremont if TLS Jean has that/resists it, he’d probably say yes.

 

[Propellus]

Let’s be real, if you ask Chris Claremont if TLS Jean has that/resists it, he’d probably say yes.

Sadly, this isn't allowed, otherwise upgrades would start blowing up

 

[RoTt35]

Here is my version though I did more stuff around it.

A CGM replied to your calc btw, some of the images are broken and cannot be seen

 

[PhantomØ4]

A CGM replied to your calc btw, some of the images are broken and cannot be seen

Thanks, I missed it. I'll have to remake the images since, given how old it is, I no longer have them. I'll update it whenever I get the chance.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The KE part would be calc stacking regarding Apocalypse.

Also I general Quicksilver doesn't meet the requirements for useable KE.

 

[PhantomØ4]

The KE part would be calc stacking regarding Apocalypse.

Also I general Quicksilver doesn't meet the requirements for useable KE.

I understand the second concern kinda, but how is it calc stalking? It was the KE of him moving alongside beast in his non FTL trip during the mansion scene.

 

[Dalesean027]

 

[Qawsedf234]

I understand the second concern kinda, but how is it calc stalking

Because the only way to get KE is to get the speed in that scene. You wouldn't be able to use the lightning or explosion figures, but the speed gotten from the scene itself.

 

[PhantomØ4]

I didn’t do that… I used the speed from the scene and included the mass of himself and the actor (beast) he carried along in the exact same scene. Same scene, same moment, same action.

Didn’t apply the speed there to see how fast his punches threw apocalypse through the air or anythin.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I didn’t do that… I used the speed from the scene and included the mass of himself and the actor (beast) he carried along in the exact same scene. Same scene, same moment, same action.

Didn’t apply the speed there to see how fast his punches threw apocalypse through the air or anythin.

Yes but it’s not his speed from the scene he was punching Apocalypse around in. You would need to calc his speed from that specific scene to get the KE used to knock Ooze around.

 

[RoTt35]

That feat was already calculated

 

[Qawsedf234]

he carried along in the exact same scene. Same scene, same moment, same action

My bad.

Though the KE rules regarding visuals still apply.

 

[RoTt35]

Can we give Jean a tier 2 key based on this possible future

 

[RoTt35]

I wanted to make a match between Jean and the Phoenix Force, but does she have something to deal with its incorporeality?

 

[RoTt35]

Jean only having hypersonic speed it's very sad

 

[RoTt35]

Speaking of that, can this be used as speed feats?

Time then lost meaning for her, perception stretching it like taffy as long as she needed. The others had seen her eager and radiant smile, her sparkling eyes, the tilt of her head as she found herself lost in wonderment, encompassing perhaps a fraction of a moment of elapsed objective time. By contrast, Jean could have sworn she was engrossed for hours.

And with those words, he cast forth into the heart of her the very best of himself, only a fraction of an unmeasurable pulse of time before she struck what remained of his body with such force that it instantly shattered into less than its component atoms.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Lowballing hours to 2 hrs, and highballing fraction to 1/2 a sec, Jean is basically x14,400 times faster than normal. Assuming normal human of 5 m/s, she would essentially be Mach 209 bare minimum.

The implication of the repeated mentions of “fraction of an unmeasurable pulse of/a moment of elapsed objective time” is absolutely wild because that is technically < planck time.

 

[RoTt35]

According to the novelization, old Magneto isn't in his prime, so is it possible to scale his young self to 8-A+?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

According to the novelization, old Magneto isn't in his prime, so is it possible to scale his young self to 8-A+?

Makes sense to me

 

[RoTt35]

Jean Grey vs Phoenix Force

 

[RoTt35]

According to the novelization, old Magneto isn't in his prime, so is it possible to scale his young self to 8-A+?

Speaking of this, since Magneto can attack metal at the subatomic level, could him scale to its destructive value (6.7034e12 Joules or 1.6 Kilotons) at the very least?

 

[RoTt35]

Currently this is the mind hax scale:

Silverfox < Wolverine/Sabertooth < Charles (Future Past) < Jean w/mental nerf < Charles (Apocalypse) < Charles w/Cerebro < Apocalypse < Jean < HotPF Jean < Vuk < HotPF Vuk < Phoenix Force

Should there be another layer between Silverfox and the likes of Wolverine and Sabretooth for Charles (Logan)? Since his mind hax was able to affect and paralyze hundreds of people and made Wolverine struggle, unlike Sabretooth who was unaffected by Silverfox's mind hax, but ultimately Wolverine and X-23 can resist it

 

[RoTt35]

Wolverine CRT

 

[RoTt35]

What caused this shockwave? Cyclops's Optic Blast (9-A+), Jean's TK (8-C), or both? Since Cyclops and Jean survived that

 

[RoTt35]

If Cyclops or Jean have 8-C dura because of that then all the 9-A+ characters would be upgraded to at least 8-C since Lady Deathstrike one-shot Cyclops