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X-Men Film Series General Discussion Thread
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was expecting tier 3 lmao
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We still don't calculate Jean destroying the world beyond the subatomic level, her creating a microsingularity and replicating the luminosity of the Big Bang. I don't know about Tier 3, but Tier 5/4 is very likely, but the most important is her OP hax
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Btw, does someone know how to calculate any of these feats (world destruction, microsingularity, Big Bang)? We still need to decide a timeframe for her discorporating Earth
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Did Jean actually die or? Limited Healing via bone manip? Not too sure on the ruby quartz one. Some kind of power mimicry for copying the properties of the shades is my best guess.
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Resurrection it is.
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Base imo. It stems from the PF but it still resurrects her even when she isn’t actively using the power. My question is how it fits with Logan ganking her at the end of the movie.
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Maybe her awakening the Phoenix allowed her to resurrect? The novelization says this right after her death
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I know I'm late here, but basically, with novelizations that have heavy purple prose/extreme statements like this one, we wouldn't make a new profile (or key) but just limit what we use for the sake of consistency.
For example, Jean destroying stuff by breaking molecular change can work, because it fits with the visuals. Her making a mini-Big Bang would just be considered literary exaggeration.
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I wasn't talking about her collapsing the cup into a ball of energy, I meant the power comparison between it and the big bang.
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Oh, and what about her other feats? Her creating a microsingularity by compressing matter and her discorporating Earth beyond the subatomic level?
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Worth giving it a "possibly" tag since it's part of that purple prose style of speech.
I think that is fine, since as I said before it fits in with what we see visually.
Basically what I'm saying is that stuff like this shouldn't be taken at face value profile-wise.
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Good, this is the feat in question, we only need to decide a timeframe for it, any suggestion would be very helpful
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The timeframe it takes and the nature of the power wouldn't give you Tier 6 or 4 results.
However.
Destroying a human on the sub-atomic level is a 7-A feat, so considering the range on her she's probably 6-C or something.
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Didn’t she dust all of Alcatraz in a minute or something? Could be pretty high.
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Subatomic destruction of Earth is Low 4-C, and I don't think the timeframe is higher than 12 hours since Wolverine says he doesn't know if they will live to see the dawn
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For doing it in one shot.
Because they're 40 feet away from her. If she's not killed then they all die to the wave.
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I know, that's why we need to choose a timeframe for the feat
Wolverine stated that after Magneto told him that Jean was discorporating Earth and saying that he wouldn't know if the world would survive. And the other X-Men were already leaving the island before all of that
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If its overtime I feel like it's more of a range thing than an AP thing. Since it's just a slowly growing zone of death.
Scaling AP to AoE isn't linear like that. Her initial wave was already much larger than a normal human. The easiest way would just be finding out the area she did destroy and then giving her a likely rating by downscaling a timeframe from the Earth by 12 to 24 hours.
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Her power allowed her to reach the core of the Earth in an instant, it should be noted that Jean was focused and distracted by Wolverine and her love for him
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This is what I meant earlier. Compare it to the film and this doesn't happen. It's impressive, but it's from a book with heavy statements like this that is implying a far greater level of power shown compared to the movie.
Probably best to just take Alcatraz and try to calc a sub-atomic destruction of it.
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Fair
The whole island?
So her tier would be "X (Jean destroying Alcatraz), possibly/likely X (Jean discorporating Earth overtime)?
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If I understood this correctly when Jean died at the end of X2, her mind was still alive in an "astral journey" seeing her possible futures or something like that, then she decided that it was not her time and it seems that she revived herself, but when Wolverine killed her she wanted him to kill and this save her
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This one. He makes incorrect assumptions about the explosion travel and forgot to convert in one of the steps which resulted in a much slower explosion.
I have an old version of a re-calc I made for it cuz I noticed that the conversion was wrong.
Here is my version though I did more stuff around it.
I have an old version of a re-calc I made for it cuz I noticed that the conversion was wrong.
Here is my version though I did more stuff around it.
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Yeah. Something like "X, possibly Low 4-C (The novelization suggested she would dismantle the Earth which would be this tier)"
Then just put a note that the novelization for three contradicts some scenes for the movie which is why its not a solid rating.
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Okay, to calculate her destroying Alcatraz should we use the whole island?
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Dunno about the whole island since the movie only shows her destroying the buildings on top of it iirc.
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Just the building, since the island still remained after the shockwave.
