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Ok.All wank tbh.
The gap between each of those ends is hilarious lmfaoFinished the calc.
Low End (Peak Human Reactions timeframe): 8.02115312c
Mid End (Garou-Platinum Sperm Constellation timeframe: 617.01178c
High End (Shockwaves seem frozen timeframe): 275125.731c
Super High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 18497547800c
Yeah. I don't really see either of the high ends getting accepted tbh.The gap between each of those ends is hilarious lmfao
Saitama was NOT bloodlusted. I would riot if this gets throughThat's not really a good argument for Garou scaling tho, since AP doesn't automatically scales to durability.
I still think Garou staing he surpassed Blast and Blast having to actively defend himself against Garou's attacks should make it proof.
It'd be like this:
Blast:
Garou:
He wasn't holding back and was willing to destroy the planet?Saitama was NOT bloodlusted. I would riot if this gets through
I mean, we do see the shockwaves frozen here, so the first high end could probably be accepted.The high ends are a bit too far fetched without further evidence.
low end is completely unviable honestly, mid end seems to be the most correct one (even tho it should be way higher since that reaction time is outdated)Anyway I'd probably go with Mid or Low end.
The high ends are a bit too far fetched without further evidence.
Stop bringing irrelevant information while ignoring explicit statements.He wasn't holding back and was willing to destroy the planet?
I'd like to believe the high end but I feel like downplay is going to win in the endI mean, we do see the shockwaves frozen here, so the first high end could probably be accepted.
Thank you.Just changed it to Enraged Saitama. That still fits and he was in fact very angry.
Fair enoughJust change it to Enraged Saitama. That still fits and he was in fact very angry.
What can't Blast can't be over 200X weaker than Saitama and Garou (Power Copied)?Base Garou and Blast being 4-A doesn't make any sense. Garou only became that strong after copying Saitama's Serious Series.
Blast needed help to divert the blast by manipulating the vectors. I don't care about any Inverse Square Law calc bullshit I care about what is clearly visible, he didn't tank the blast he reacted and diverted it with his friends.Base Garou and Blast will scale to 4-A via Blast tanking a portion of Serious Punch^2. They aren't scaling to the full Serious Punch^2 value, which is far higher
I don't care about your calc which begins with the uncertain assumption that he actually tanked a portion of the damage. I care about the feats. And Garou's best feats when he fought Blast was the GRB.He's scaling way below even 1% of their power output. They can effortlessly one shot him. So I don't think there is an issue with him scaling too close to them.
No he wasn't. The first page which you linked only shows Blast opening the portal before they hit each other SPECIFICALLY to divert the blast.Blast was also clearly hit by that energy.
What is blud waffling aboutNo he wasn't. The first page which you linked only shows Blast opening the portal before they hit each other SPECIFICALLY to divert the blast.
The second shows Blast floating in space still trying to divert.
The scans prove nothing.
What? He's literally right next to them, and the panel shows him being sent flying back. He was inside of the circle/portal/gate thing, but ends up outside of it.No he wasn't. The first page which you linked only shows Blast opening the portal before they hit each other SPECIFICALLY to divert the blast.
I honestly think the high-end is the most accurate out of all of these lol. The only other one that makes sense is the low end but obviously that's incredibly downplayed. The mid end could work, but I doubt people will accept Garou's reaction speed being that without claiming it's calc stacking somehowFinished the calc.
Low End (Peak Human Reactions timeframe): 8.02115312c
Mid End (Garou-Platinum Sperm Constellation timeframe: 617.01178c
High End (Shockwaves seem frozen timeframe): 275125.731c
Super High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 18497547800c
Yeah the blast was contained by his barrier / gate thing. It doesn't matter that he was close because he stopped it from expanding.You can see the boom it unleashes right here. It doesn't expand because Blast is holding it back.
He was much closer to them and very clearly looks like he's been sent flying back.
Yeah thinking about it, High End or Low End seems the most likely. Mid End might be dismissed as calc stacking.I honestly think the high-end is the most accurate out of all of these lol. The only other one that makes sense is the low end but obviously that's incredibly downplayed. The mid end could work, but I doubt people will accept Garou's reaction speed being that without claiming it's calc stacking somehow
I don't understand what you mean by this? Why does this mean he doesn't scale to it.Yeah the blast was contained by his barrier / gate thing. It doesn't matter that he was close because he stopped it from expanding.
I am not going to add this to the CRT as it seems way more debatable than everything else on there and I personally want this to be a simple and quick upgrade to get the profiles back in shape.I don't understand what you mean by this? Why does this mean he doesn't scale to it.
He was inside of the portal/gate, as we can see here too. And he is launched out by the explosion of their punch. Which means he got hit by it.
His pose clearly shows he's being sent flying away.
I'm not all that interested in OPM to debate this in detail. Maybe in the CRT, but honestly I'll just go with what the majority agrees with.
When were they called light structures for Saitama and Garou during this fight?Super High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 18497547800c
It doesn't matter that he's pushed back because he wasn't hit by anything! The explosion is contained there, he's just being pushed away by the knockback of trying to contain it, which is failing until he receives help.I don't understand what you mean by this? Why does this mean he doesn't scale to it.
He was inside of the portal/gate, as we can see here too. And he is launched out by the explosion of their punch. Which means he got hit by it.
His pose clearly shows he's being sent flying away.
5-A, likely High 4-C it is then. Because I don't care all that much.If you can develop a solid argument that convinces people to upgrade them to 4-A afterwards, then good for you.
Isn't calc stacking only work if you use other calc?Yeah thinking about it, High End or Low End seems the most likely. Mid End might be dismissed as calc stacking.
This fine.He can be "At most 4-A with Spatial Manipulation" it was agreed on. But we don't believe Blast's physicals scale to it. In the future I'm sure he'll be straight up 4-A but for now no dice.
What's wrong with the shockwave end. Seems just as legit to me.Low end of the calc does seem a bit low but definitely makes the most sense.
Because we know that the timeframe is less than Garou and PS' timer due to it being stated to be faster.By that logic why can't we use that same reasoning for Garou, PS and FF's feat?