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Finished the calc.

Low End (Peak Human Reactions timeframe): 8.02115312c

Mid End (Garou-Platinum Sperm Constellation timeframe: 617.01178c

High End (Shockwaves seem frozen timeframe): 275125.731c

Super High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 18497547800c
The gap between each of those ends is hilarious lmfao
 
Anyway I'd probably go with Mid or Low end.

The high ends are a bit too far fetched without further evidence.
 
That's not really a good argument for Garou scaling tho, since AP doesn't automatically scales to durability.

I still think Garou staing he surpassed Blast and Blast having to actively defend himself against Garou's attacks should make it proof.

It'd be like this:

Blast:


Garou:
Saitama was NOT bloodlusted. I would riot if this gets through
 
Base Garou and Blast being 4-A doesn't make any sense. Garou only became that strong after copying Saitama's Serious Series.
 
Base Garou and Blast being 4-A doesn't make any sense. Garou only became that strong after copying Saitama's Serious Series.
What can't Blast can't be over 200X weaker than Saitama and Garou (Power Copied)?

It being 4-A isn't relevant, what would matter is how close he was. 4-A is a massively sized tier.

He's scaling way below even 1% of their power output. They can effortlessly one shot him. So I don't think there is an issue of him scaling too close to them or anything.
 
Base Garou and Blast will scale to 4-A via Blast tanking a portion of Serious Punch^2. They aren't scaling to the full Serious Punch^2 value, which is far higher
Blast needed help to divert the blast by manipulating the vectors. I don't care about any Inverse Square Law calc bullshit I care about what is clearly visible, he didn't tank the blast he reacted and diverted it with his friends.

Garou was literally harmed by Casual Saitama's Normal Punch before copying his real power lmao and Saitama was legit holding back to not destroy the planet up until Genos died.
 
He's scaling way below even 1% of their power output. They can effortlessly one shot him. So I don't think there is an issue with him scaling too close to them.
I don't care about your calc which begins with the uncertain assumption that he actually tanked a portion of the damage. I care about the feats. And Garou's best feats when he fought Blast was the GRB.

If 1% of the blast hit Blast why didn't the solar system explode? Because the entire explosion was diverted, he just received the knockback of actually diverting it lol.
 
Blast was also clearly hit by that energy.

Since he was inside the portal/gate thing as well, and was sent flying away by the power of the serious punch^2.

There is no denying that whatsoever. He was hit by it and was sent flying back. He's way farther away than where he was before.

Unless being inside of the gate made the power nonexistence or something. But we have no such statement.

The explosion didn't destroy the solar system because he's holding it back. He wasn't letting it expand more.
 
Blast was also clearly hit by that energy.
No he wasn't. The first page which you linked only shows Blast opening the portal before they hit each other SPECIFICALLY to divert the blast.

The second shows Blast floating in space still trying to divert.

The scans prove nothing.
 
No he wasn't. The first page which you linked only shows Blast opening the portal before they hit each other SPECIFICALLY to divert the blast.
What? He's literally right next to them, and the panel shows him being sent flying back. He was inside of the circle/portal/gate thing, but ends up outside of it.

You can see the boom it unleashes right here. It doesn't expand because Blast is holding it back.

He was much closer to them and very clearly looks like he's been sent flying back.
 
Finished the calc.

Low End (Peak Human Reactions timeframe): 8.02115312c

Mid End (Garou-Platinum Sperm Constellation timeframe: 617.01178c

High End (Shockwaves seem frozen timeframe): 275125.731c

Super High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 18497547800c
I honestly think the high-end is the most accurate out of all of these lol. The only other one that makes sense is the low end but obviously that's incredibly downplayed. The mid end could work, but I doubt people will accept Garou's reaction speed being that without claiming it's calc stacking somehow
 
You can see the boom it unleashes right here. It doesn't expand because Blast is holding it back.

He was much closer to them and very clearly looks like he's been sent flying back.
Yeah the blast was contained by his barrier / gate thing. It doesn't matter that he was close because he stopped it from expanding.
 
I honestly think the high-end is the most accurate out of all of these lol. The only other one that makes sense is the low end but obviously that's incredibly downplayed. The mid end could work, but I doubt people will accept Garou's reaction speed being that without claiming it's calc stacking somehow
Yeah thinking about it, High End or Low End seems the most likely. Mid End might be dismissed as calc stacking.
 
Yeah the blast was contained by his barrier / gate thing. It doesn't matter that he was close because he stopped it from expanding.
I don't understand what you mean by this? Why does this mean he doesn't scale to it.

He was inside of the portal/gate, as we can see here too. And he is launched out by the explosion of their punch. Which means he got hit by it.

His pose clearly shows he's being sent flying away.

I'm not all that interested in OPM to debate this in detail. Maybe in the CRT, but honestly I'll just go with what the majority agrees with.
 
I'm hoping the high end is accepted. I personally don't see how it could be problematic at all, but the calc team is usually very strict.
 
I don't understand what you mean by this? Why does this mean he doesn't scale to it.

He was inside of the portal/gate, as we can see here too. And he is launched out by the explosion of their punch. Which means he got hit by it.

His pose clearly shows he's being sent flying away.

I'm not all that interested in OPM to debate this in detail. Maybe in the CRT, but honestly I'll just go with what the majority agrees with.
I am not going to add this to the CRT as it seems way more debatable than everything else on there and I personally want this to be a simple and quick upgrade to get the profiles back in shape.

If you can develop a solid argument that convinces people to upgrade them to 4-A afterwards, then good for you.
 
Super High End ("Shockwaves" are light, as they were called light structures in 155): 18497547800c
When were they called light structures for Saitama and Garou during this fight?

I'm pretty sure it'll be mention that you cannot use that statement for another moment. The series has a lot of moments like this where character leave behind flashes, explosions, and trails when moving at high speed. By that logic why can't we use that same reasoning for Garou, PS and FF's feat?

Visually they're identical, just on a far more massive scale. If Garou, PS, and FF can't use that reasoning than Saitama and Garou can't use it either.
 
I don't understand what you mean by this? Why does this mean he doesn't scale to it.

He was inside of the portal/gate, as we can see here too. And he is launched out by the explosion of their punch. Which means he got hit by it.

His pose clearly shows he's being sent flying away.
It doesn't matter that he's pushed back because he wasn't hit by anything! The explosion is contained there, he's just being pushed away by the knockback of trying to contain it, which is failing until he receives help.

Pre-Serious Series Garou is weak enough to be affected and launched back by a Normal Punch from Saitama who's holding back, after copying Serious Series he is enough to endure Serious Punches at full power and keep fighting. It makes absolutely no sense for this weaker Garou and Blast to scale to the Serious Punch Squared feat. I don't care if the calc says they're actually 200 times weaker I care about what is factually being portrayed.
 
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