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One Punch Man is usually a rather light-hearted anime but deep down it is one of the darkest ones. So while it was an unexpected scene, I doubt that it is out of place in OPM world.
Kind of depends. People define dark in different ways.

A lot of people apparently think that upfront gore and blatant scenes showing very disturbing or saddening subjects is needed to constitute something being dark. I agree that OPM is actually a somewhat dark series, more than what people say. Although I wouldn't say it's one of the darkest anime by any means. That's putting it on the same pedestal of darkness as series like AoT and Berserk. And uh...no.
 
4-A alone has a power gap of over 100 million and Saitama/Garou were pretty low on that scale when the fight started.

Without units it's incredibly unlikely to say the graph shows us that they managed to bridge that gap much less reach all the way to universal...so NLF 🤓
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I disagree. It'd be questionable if Fuhrer actually succeeded and the audience saw it.

In the manga, he's just a gross pervert who gets killed off. So it's not really questionable, especially since shit like that is probably why he was rotten enough to become Ugmon.
I didn't say it was questionable though. I actually said the opposite.

My problem with it is that OPM never needed to go to such extremes to display such toxic behaviour.

Tongue stretcher and PPP are both described as perverted existences without going to blatant assault gimmicks that is used in normal japanese media so it feels incredibly out of place and uninspired compared to the way the franchise deals with such heavy topics.

(And as I pointed out earlier, the response to it was pretty muted despite sexual assault not really being depicted as prominent in the OPM universe since the monsters really only killed Fuhrer for their own personal reasons of dislike).
 
I didn't say it was questionable though. I actually said the opposite.

My problem with it is that OPM never needed to go to such extremes to display such toxic behaviour.

Tongue stretcher and PPP are both described as perverted existences without going to blatant assault gimmicks that is used in normal japanese media so it feels incredibly out of place and uninspired compared to the way the franchise deals with such heavy topics.
In one of the OVA's we hear PPP literally began to r-word a guy off-screen iirc. Even OPM goes there if it wants to.
 
That's putting it on the same pedestal of darkness as series like AoT and Berserk. And uh...no.
I don't think you can really compare without seeing all at their darkest and I would bet that will never happen in OPM. Most of what it has is "informed attribute" which severely downplays bleakness. It doesn't help that the main character is Saitama.

Besides that, as you said it depends on people's definition of the dark. I have never watched Berserk but seeing how people talk about it, I would say it is darker than OPM. On other hand, I would confidently put OPM above pre-season 4 AoT in terms of darkness.
 
Tongue stretcher and PPP are both described as perverted existences without going to blatant assault gimmicks that is used in normal japanese media so it feels incredibly out of place and uninspired compared to the way the franchise deals with such heavy topics.
PPP's actions are treated pretty casually (which I never got), though, and Tounge Stretcher is a small time criminal.

This is the ultimate depraved villain who, just prior, casually annihilated Sweet Mask.

It's a little out-of-place (not that out of place, I'd say), but this is an out-of-place character by nature.
 
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  1. Calm down.
  2. I changed my stance in later conversations since the figures I quoted weren't accurate and I admitted the likelihood of Saitama/Garou not reaching 3-C was low based on the graph.
  3. We are an indexing site, it's not weird that some people need further proof to record it officially on the wiki.
 
I don't think you can really compare without seeing all at their darkest and I would bet that will never happen in OPM. Most of what it has is "informed attribute" which would severely downplay bleakness.

Besides that, as you said it depends on people's definition of the dark. I have never watched Berserk but seeing how people talk about it, I would say it is darker than OPM. On other hand, I would confidently put OPM above pre-season 4 AoT in terms of darkness.
OPM's humans have it easy compared to the Eldian's. They're protected by Heroes constantly, and based on statements in-universe, Monster's weren't even THAT common until around the time the series began for us. OPM's Earth is basically our world but with extra danger and extra protection to sort of balance it out. The Eldian's have to suffer the threat of being eaten alive every moment and are trapped within a small region, forced to live like cattle waiting to be slaughtered, and even then, humans still fight amongst themselves, look at what was going to happen to Mikasa had Eren not come by.

Unless you mean pure casualty amount, I'd say it's vastly in AoT's favor even without Season 4's added layers.

As for Berserk, yeah it's bad, when it comes to the dark themes in it I mean. I think people exaggerate it a little bit, but it's an extremely dark series no doubt.
 
PPP's actions are treated pretty casually (which I never got), though, and Tounge Stretcher is a small time criminal.
Yeah I never really liked how PPP was used as comic relief but he was still in jail before he broke out, and his jail associates were wholeheartedly explaining to him why being an unrepentant r-word-ist is going to result in people wanting to kill you so it's still leagues better than "oh, I assaulted/want to assault this person but I'm a actually a really good guy, trust me" that's so common in japanese fiction.

I don't understand why no one's putting him back into prison though since he's legit one of the weakest S-Class.
In one of the OVA's we hear PPP literally began to r-word a guy off-screen iirc. Even OPM goes there if it wants to.
Sad to hear that tbh. One, I thought you were better than that 😢
 
It wouldn't be far fetched for post-cosmic garou Saitama to be 3-C tbh. After he was amped by his adaptation ability he was able to oneshot Cosmic Garou, when Garou had previously tanked thousands of his bloodlusted attacks without being taken down.
Again, though I agree with your first point, Saitama was never bloodlusted.
 
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hey I want to ask if the VSB staff also get a salary from this forum or is this just entertainment that is done if there is no activity?
 
hey I want to ask if the VSB staff also get a salary from this forum or is this just entertainment that is done if there is no activity?
No. This forum is barely sustaining itself as is. It would be stupidly expensive to pay everyone.

It is all for entertainment, satisfying our weird power scaling obsessions.
 
No. This forum is barely sustaining itself as is. It would be stupidly expensive to pay everyone.

It is all for entertainment, satisfying our weird power scaling obsessions.
ohh like that, for admins and moderators and so on are they chosen randomly or is there some kind of test?
 
OPM's humans have it easy compared to the Eldian's
Maybe yes but OPM humans aren't that far behind. Don't forget that Eldia is just a part of Aot world while the whole world is in danger in OPM. Similar things happened in AoT as well but it is not as common as it is in OPM
They're protected by Heroes constantly
Hero Association didn't exist until three years ago. And even in the current point of timeline, it is not that reliable. Most HA executives are rotten with some even having monsters as pets which leads to untold casualties. Heroes are very limited in number as they are around 600 people. Even then, only 18 of them can fight actual huge threats if we exclude Saitama. Those 18 can't be considered the best of people either according to Bang. The top 4 strongest heroes can be even worse. Tatsumaki causes as much destruction as monsters, Metal Knight was about to let Z-city be destroyed, King is a fraud, and Blast almost never appears (It is kinda justified though). So much for constant protection from heroes. Speaking of Monsters, they don't have it easy either. Just look at PPP, Pig "god", Drive Knight, HA's experiments, etc. And unlike Titans, monsters are still sentient.
and based on statements in-universe, Monster's weren't even THAT common
I watched AoT over a year ago but didn't they say that titans haven't appeared for a long time in the first episode? And what they say in OPM is slightly different. Monsters weren't that common but they weren't rare either. It is just that, nowadays, their numbers are absurd. But there were a lot happening even before that. Some monsters are thousands if not millions of years old. If we look at more recent history, 800 years ago Cruel Dragon nearly made the human race go extinct. 300 years ago Ninja Leader was born and it is safe to assume that Ninja Village is as old. A prison made for most amoral people in the world was considered funny by Sonic who is a relatively good guy in the village. Then there is Abandoned Masses, a group of ninjas who made decreasing the world population their life goal, which even Ninja Village refrains contacting from. Then there are world wars that made most of the world unhabitable, completely changed climates, marked the appearance of new monsters, and possibly sank other continents.
The Eldian's have to suffer threat of being eaten alive every moment
It is not the best way to go but it is not the worst either. In OPM that and worse can happen to both monsters and humans. According to Choze, becoming a monster removes moral restrictions. In other words, they can do any kind of evil without blinking as long as it is not inconvenient to them and they do. There are also monsters like Royal Ripper who is feared even among other mysterious beings and he roamed around long enough to be in books. There is no shortage of these monsters since you can transform into a monster just through a surge of negative emotions which is also one of the worst ways to go. Someone will inevitably suffer.
forced to live like cattle waiting to be slaughtered and are trapped within a small region
OPM puts laughter into slaughter and it is easily comparable to Aot in that aspect. The aforementioned Ninja Village, Abandoned Masses, Cruel Dragon, World Wars alone are enough. Even other races aren't safe. Boros who destroyed A-city as soon as he appeared and destroyed countless civilizations previously or "God" who makes Boros look like a joke. Blastice league and previous interstellar destruction are proofs of that.

Being trapped in a small area is very relative. OPM humans can't move around freely either. They are surrounded by countless dangers. Underground? Seas? Sky? Neighborhood? Other continents? Outer Space? Other Dimensions? All of them contain someone against humans one way or another. Even nature itself tries to kill humanity. Just one continent which is not fully inhabited is way too small against those things.
and even then, humans still fight amongst themselves
That happens even in real life. Even if you said that it is particularly bad in AoT, I can say the same about OPM. I don't even need to mention previous things. MA is led by a human, Eleven and Otento are a bunch of humans, Organization is made by humans, House of Evolution is founded by Genus, Thief Guild was mentioned by Tongara among other things, a good chunk of monsters are former humans like titans, countless organizations were destroyed by Saitama, Genos, Flashy Flash, etc. Just look at people killed by Flashy Flash. All of them are dead despite being mentioned randomly. It goes to show just how many of these guys met their doom thanks to Flash. And there is even more out there, each having their own underground army.
look at what was going to happen to Mikasa had Eren not come by.
Look at Psykos' experiments.

I probably forgot most of what I was gonna say while writing this. This is just a type of the iceberg
 
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I probably forgot most of what I was gonna say while writing this. This is just a type of the iceberg
you are the person who has the most intention in explaining something, this is the first time I read a long sentence without stopping at the beginning of the sentence hahaha
 
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