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Actually not true. Galaxy level energy on this site is just calculated from the raw energy to destroy each thing in the galaxy, not accounting for the energy drop of over distance, at least to my knowledge.
Ok this is called moving the goal post. 11 milliom star systems destroyed should be labeled as multi solar system. If the yield comes up higher than what our current 4-A scale is, it would just increase the yield requirements for 4-A and above.
 
The reason the calcs are getting inflated numbers is because modern calculations in general use inflated methods while the AP Tiering parameters were established earlier.
 
Ok this is called moving the goal post. 11 milliom star systems destroyed should be labeled as multi solar system. If the yield comes up higher than what our current 4-A scale is, it would just increase the yield requirements for 4-A and above.
You're the one moving the goalpost. The GBE of a galaxy is how much energy it would take to destroy one. It's not my fault that destroying 11 million stars 16,000 light years away happens to be greater than the GBE of an average galaxy. Blame the inverse square law.

You understand you are pretty much saying that if a character, from 200 miles away, levels a building with their punch's shockwave, that we should move their Multi City Block level feat down to Building Level, right?
 
You're the one moving the goalpost. The GBE of a galaxy is how much energy it would take to destroy one. It's not my fault that destroying 11 million stars 16,000 light years away happens to be greater than the GBE of an average galaxy. Blame the inverse square law.

You understand you are pretty much saying that if a character, from 200 miles away, levels a building with their punch's shockwave, that we should move their Multi City Block level feat down to Building Level, right?
Then maybe inverse square law isn't that accurate tbh
 
Actually not true. Galaxy level energy on this site is just calculated from the raw energy to destroy each thing in the galaxy, not accounting for the energy drop of over distance, at least to my knowledge.
It is the opposite afaik. Galaxy level accounts for energy drop but destroying everything isn't necessity
 
Do you remember when we were thinking that Garou's feats might top at island level and we had to scale him to Boros?
Remember when people thought Boros was stronger than Garou just because Saitama massaged his ego before he died out of pity?
 
You're the one moving the goalpost. The GBE of a galaxy is how much energy it would take to destroy one. It's not my fault that destroying 11 million stars 16,000 light years away happens to be greater than the GBE of an average galaxy. Blame the inverse square law.

You understand you are pretty much saying that if a character, from 200 miles away, levels a building with their punch's shockwave, that we should move their Multi City Block level feat down to Building Level, right?
Dude it’s so simple why would we label and attack multi galaxy if it didn’t destroy multiple galaxies?

If the math on his calculation ends up being right, that would just mean stellar, interstellar and cosmic level feats would get upgraded.
 
Then maybe inverse square law isn't that accurate tbh
Argue with the physical law that has built our entire understanding of astrophysics. Go ahead. You definitely know better than the hundreds of astrophysicists who have run hundreds of painstaicking experiments, and made thousands of acute observations that all support the inverse square law being a universal constant in our universe. The only thing the inverse square law doesn't apply to in terms of energy fall off is gravity.

I don't get the trend on this site where some people go "well maybe (insert objective fact grounded in hundreds of scientific papers) isn't accurate". Like wtf do you know? Show me your college degree, or write me a paper explaining why this constant of our universe doesn't exist, using experiments and observations. Put that through peer review, and then we'll talk.
 
Regardless of how the math ends up. Multiple solar systems were destroyed not multiple galaxies
 
Argue with the physical law that has built our entire understanding of astrophysics. Go ahead. You definitely know better than the hundreds of astrophysicists who have run hundreds of painstaicking experiments, and made thousands of acute observations that all support the inverse square law being a universal constant in our universe. The only thing the inverse square law doesn't apply to in terms of energy fall off is gravity.

I don't get the trend on this site where some people go "well maybe (insert objective fact grounded in hundreds of scientific papers) isn't accurate". Like wtf do you know? Show me your college degree, or write me a paper explaining why this constant of our universe doesn't exist, using experiments and observations. Put that through peer review, and then we'll talk.
It’s not about the math it’s about the label itself.
 
Multiple solar systems were destroyed not multiple galaxies
Not necessarily. In different shots in the same chapter we could clearly see galaxies, and even IRL, you would still be able to see at least 1 galaxy from where Garou and Saitama were. The fact that they made the entire area dark means that the destruction of galaxies is possible.
 
The current calc isn't based on the parameters that multiple galaxies were destroyed, though, so I don't see why that's relevant.
 
The current calc isn't based on the parameters that multiple galaxies were destroyed, though, so I don't see why that's relevant.
DTG said that galaxies weren't destroyed, which isn't entirely true. I never mentioned the calc.
 
It’s not about the math it’s about the label itself.
And we do our tiers based on the energy released. You know, like a sane person. It just so happens this feat released more energy than destroying the galaxy.
 
Not necessarily. In different shots in the same chapter we could clearly see galaxies, and even IRL, you would still be able to see at least 1 galaxy from where Garou and Saitama were. The fact that they made the entire area dark means that the destruction of galaxies is possible.
This I can get behind. The point I’m trying to make is that the current calculation is labeling 11 million stars as multi galaxy.
 
And we do our tiers based on the energy released. You know, like a sane person. It just so happens this feat released more energy than destroying the galaxy.
Explain to me, in the most generous way possible, what you think my argument is?
 
The current calc isn't based on the parameters that multiple galaxies were destroyed, though, so I don't see why that's relevant.
It doesn't matter tbh. It's like calcs that rate someone as Low 7-C because they destroyed a building. Which has happened before on this wiki, a single building being destroyed was calced to have a bigger number than Hiroshima, where several buildings were pulverized.

At some point you have to step back and realize that maybe you're calcing it wrong
 
"The point I’m trying to make is that the current calculation is labeling 11 million stars as multi galaxy."
When you write a book report there’s a reason a teacher will fail you if you just copy and paste the book word for word into your essay. In your own words put together a clear and concise description of my argument. Because I don’t think you understand what I am trying to say.
 
It doesn't matter tbh. It's like calcs that rate someone as Low 7-C because they destroyed a building. Which has happened before on this wiki, a single building being destroyed was calced to have a bigger number than Hiroshima, where several buildings were pulverized.

At some point you have to step back and realize that maybe you're calcing it wrong
I mean if they destroyed that building with a shockwave from kilometers away, it makes sense.
 
It doesn't matter tbh. It's like calcs that rate someone as Low 7-C because they destroyed a building. Which has happened before on this wiki, a single building being destroyed was calced to have a bigger number than Hiroshima, where several buildings were pulverized.

At some point you have to step back and realize that maybe you're calcing it wrong
His calc probably is wrong
 
When you write a book report there’s a reason a teacher will fail you if you just copy and paste the book word for word into your essay.
I simply thought you were trying to put me in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. Where no matter what I say, it either has me concede to your argument, or you get to pick apart the slight discrepancies in my description of your argument. I know how english essays work.
 
And also, if you ever got an A in one of those essays, you'd know you have to quote the book to prove and support your interpretation/undertsanding of the text.
 
I simply thought you were trying to put me in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. Where no matter what I say, it either has me concede to your argument, or you get to pick apart the slight discrepancies in my description of your argument. I know how english essays work.
I believe that a 3-B rating is warranted, I want a 3-B rating for one punch man. I do not believe this is the way to get to it.
 
I mean if they destroyed that building with a shockwave from kilometers away, it makes sense.
No it was just destroying the building. People realized it was weird and it was revised. Calcs can be inflated through method just as they can be through assumptions.
 
Not a calc guy but I’m just gonna drop that tiers aren’t based on if you destroy the thing in the name or not, it’s about the energy output
if math says that destroying something smaller than a galaxy is as high as the arbitrary value the wiki put for galaxy level then so be it.
 
Ok let’s start over. What are the major differences that separate this calc from all the other 4-A and above calcs?
 
Using neutron stars, which have extraordinarily high GBEs compared to non-degenerate stars.
 
I just realized, when blast teleports with his portal in the beginning of the chapter it traveled physically. That's odd.
 
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