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You the for this.Okay, it wasn't as hard as I thought
Saitama and Garou are hurting the cosmos
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Nice. But what about lifting strength?Saitama and Garou are hurting the cosmos
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I added a serious table flip
Ok cool thanksok so in terms of kaio ken, it functions through ki control, and ki Prob does fall under universal energies, seeing as its life energy. So I’d say yeah.
Stand seeing is a “biological trait“ I suppose, as you Ordinarily need a virus to get a stand, and thus see one. If he can copy traits like, seeing in extra colors or amphibious skin, then I’d say yeah. Otherwise no.
And jsut checked, speed force higher d so no on that.
Are the shockwave speed calc can be use?Okay, it wasn't as hard as I thought
Saitama and Garou are hurting the cosmos
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AddedNice. But what about lifting strength?
Because that energy has to travel the span of light years, decreasing in energy over that entire timeframe.How does 11 million stars destroyed equal 3-B when a single galaxy has 100 billion stars?
When Planet Level was considered Saitama wank.Hey Guys, do you remember when we were discussing whether Saitama was planet level or not?
good old times
Do you remember when we were thinking that Garou's feats might top at island level and we had to scale him to Boros?Hey Guys, do you remember when we were discussing whether Saitama was planet level or not?
4-A feats have to travel the span of light years too. Energy traveling the span of 16,000 light years is called being 4-A.Because that energy has to travel the span of light years, decreasing in energy over that entire timeframe.
Actually not true. Galaxy level energy on this site is just calculated from the raw energy to destroy each thing in the galaxy, not accounting for the energy drop of over distance, at least to my knowledge.4-A feats have to travel the span of light years too. Energy traveling the span of 16,000 light years is called being 4-A.
Do you remember when we were thinking that Garou's feats might top at island level and we had to scale him to Boros?
Do you remember when I said that scaling wasn’t going to happen regardless?
Ok this is called moving the goal post. 11 milliom star systems destroyed should be labeled as multi solar system. If the yield comes up higher than what our current 4-A scale is, it would just increase the yield requirements for 4-A and above.Actually not true. Galaxy level energy on this site is just calculated from the raw energy to destroy each thing in the galaxy, not accounting for the energy drop of over distance, at least to my knowledge.
You're the one moving the goalpost. The GBE of a galaxy is how much energy it would take to destroy one. It's not my fault that destroying 11 million stars 16,000 light years away happens to be greater than the GBE of an average galaxy. Blame the inverse square law.Ok this is called moving the goal post. 11 milliom star systems destroyed should be labeled as multi solar system. If the yield comes up higher than what our current 4-A scale is, it would just increase the yield requirements for 4-A and above.
Then maybe inverse square law isn't that accurate tbhYou're the one moving the goalpost. The GBE of a galaxy is how much energy it would take to destroy one. It's not my fault that destroying 11 million stars 16,000 light years away happens to be greater than the GBE of an average galaxy. Blame the inverse square law.
You understand you are pretty much saying that if a character, from 200 miles away, levels a building with their punch's shockwave, that we should move their Multi City Block level feat down to Building Level, right?
It is the opposite afaik. Galaxy level accounts for energy drop but destroying everything isn't necessityActually not true. Galaxy level energy on this site is just calculated from the raw energy to destroy each thing in the galaxy, not accounting for the energy drop of over distance, at least to my knowledge.
Remember when people thought Boros was stronger than Garou just because Saitama massaged his ego before he died out of pity?Do you remember when we were thinking that Garou's feats might top at island level and we had to scale him to Boros?
Dude it’s so simple why would we label and attack multi galaxy if it didn’t destroy multiple galaxies?You're the one moving the goalpost. The GBE of a galaxy is how much energy it would take to destroy one. It's not my fault that destroying 11 million stars 16,000 light years away happens to be greater than the GBE of an average galaxy. Blame the inverse square law.
You understand you are pretty much saying that if a character, from 200 miles away, levels a building with their punch's shockwave, that we should move their Multi City Block level feat down to Building Level, right?
for the 8th timeBaseline 3-B also uses inverse-square law, IIRC, so we might need to make a calc group thread about this.
Argue with the physical law that has built our entire understanding of astrophysics. Go ahead. You definitely know better than the hundreds of astrophysicists who have run hundreds of painstaicking experiments, and made thousands of acute observations that all support the inverse square law being a universal constant in our universe. The only thing the inverse square law doesn't apply to in terms of energy fall off is gravity.Then maybe inverse square law isn't that accurate tbh
It’s not about the math it’s about the label itself.Argue with the physical law that has built our entire understanding of astrophysics. Go ahead. You definitely know better than the hundreds of astrophysicists who have run hundreds of painstaicking experiments, and made thousands of acute observations that all support the inverse square law being a universal constant in our universe. The only thing the inverse square law doesn't apply to in terms of energy fall off is gravity.
I don't get the trend on this site where some people go "well maybe (insert objective fact grounded in hundreds of scientific papers) isn't accurate". Like wtf do you know? Show me your college degree, or write me a paper explaining why this constant of our universe doesn't exist, using experiments and observations. Put that through peer review, and then we'll talk.
Not necessarily. In different shots in the same chapter we could clearly see galaxies, and even IRL, you would still be able to see at least 1 galaxy from where Garou and Saitama were. The fact that they made the entire area dark means that the destruction of galaxies is possible.Multiple solar systems were destroyed not multiple galaxies
3-C, 3-C, 3-B. 4-A. 4-ASo far there are 5 calcs including Nik's new one
DTG said that galaxies weren't destroyed, which isn't entirely true. I never mentioned the calc.The current calc isn't based on the parameters that multiple galaxies were destroyed, though, so I don't see why that's relevant.
And we do our tiers based on the energy released. You know, like a sane person. It just so happens this feat released more energy than destroying the galaxy.It’s not about the math it’s about the label itself.
I get your point, but my point is that they're only referring to the parameters of the calc.DTG said that galaxies weren't destroyed, which isn't entirely true. I never mentioned the calc.
This I can get behind. The point I’m trying to make is that the current calculation is labeling 11 million stars as multi galaxy.Not necessarily. In different shots in the same chapter we could clearly see galaxies, and even IRL, you would still be able to see at least 1 galaxy from where Garou and Saitama were. The fact that they made the entire area dark means that the destruction of galaxies is possible.
Explain to me, in the most generous way possible, what you think my argument is?And we do our tiers based on the energy released. You know, like a sane person. It just so happens this feat released more energy than destroying the galaxy.