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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Dust_Collector said:
4-A and massively ftl yet saitama still can't beat the chad ganondorf

Dunno if it's already happened (Hard to keep up when there's 80 news pages added to this thread every 15 minutes) but has there been a calc for Saitamas lifting strength for the table flip?
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There's been no official calc, no. However there's been an "estimation" on page 502.
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Not really sure how I'd calc it if he "lifted" the entire planet but assuming that flip moved only a single meter of Io's surface, the surface area of Io is 41910000 km2 or 4.191e+13 m2 and with that 1 m, it'd be a volume of 4.191e+13 m3.

Io has a mass of 8.931938e22 kg and a volume of 2.53e10 km3 or 2.53e+19 m3, meaning a density of 8.931938e22/2.53e+19 = 3530.41027668 kg/m3.

3530.41027668*4.191e+13 = 1.4795949e+17 kg or Class P

Again that's assuming literally a single meter which is inaccurate so the value is likely far higher depending on how pixel calcs go with the size of the shards
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I need the help of a member of the calculation team to determine the speed of the moon ping pong.

I can't decide - are we seeing a frozen explosion or is gravity holding the rocks? If we go from the first option, then using the snail speed we can get a good result.
 
NikHelton said:
I can't decide - are we seeing a frozen explosion or is gravity holding the rocks? If we go from the first option, then using the snail speed we can get a good result.
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It is a shame that we didn't get a timeframe. Though it is a headcanon of mine that it happened in less than 0.0013 seconds
 
Garou shouldn't be straight-up 4-A. Before copying the Serious Punch best he was doing was matching Saitama's Normal Punches, and even his charged GRB attack didn't leave any real damage on Saitama. Just because Saitama was "scratched" doesn't mean he should scale. Saitama was unbothered. He was likely just talking about the clothes and the little dirt scuff marks on his body.

Garou specifically notes that he needs to copy Saitama's full strength in order to defeat him, and then after managing to copy the Serious Punch he gets stronger, able to survive Serious Punches head on. And even now he is still getting ragdolled by a one-handed Saitama. Some people are wondering if Saitama bled at the final page of this chapter. I say we wait until next week but my prediction is that no, he likely didn't take any real damage yet again. It's just another fake-out.

If Garou was as strong as Serious Saitama from the get-go, he wouldn't need to evolve by copying him with Saitama Mode. Also note Saitama's semblance on Garou's face the first time he uses Saitama Mode (Where he replicates Saitama's dumb casual face) and the second time (Where he replicates Saitama's sharply drawn serious face).

In summary, Garou should be "At least 5-A, Likely High 4-C. 4-A after copying Saitama's Strength"
 
I've seen a way to scale Boros to Garou. After serious punch², Saitama hit the moon, and he said he felt a deja vu, right? By deja vu he clearly meant the strength he was launched with is the same Boros used to kick his ass to the Moon.

Which means Serious Punch²=Boros Moon kick.

Boros' CSRC>Boros' third form=Serious Punch²

Borosbros, I've done it

Just in case someone didn't comprehend: it's a joke, don't even try to debunk it please
 
Matthew_Schroeder said:
Garou shouldn't be straight-up 4-A. Before copying the Serious Punch best he was doing was matching Saitama's Normal Punches, and even his charged GRB attack didn't leave any real damage on Saitama. Just because Saitama was "scratched" doesn't mean he should scale. Saitama was unbothered. He was likely just talking about the clothes and the little dirt scuff marks on his body.

Garou specifically notes that he needs to copy Saitama's full strength in order to defeat him, and then after managing to copy the Serious Punch he gets stronger, able to survive Serious Punches head on. And even now he is still getting ragdolled by a one-handed Saitama. Some people are wondering if Saitama bled at the final page of this chapter. I say we wait until next week but my prediction is that no, he likely didn't take any real damage yet again. It's just another fake-out.

If Garou was as strong as Serious Saitama from the get-go, he wouldn't need to evolve by copying him with Saitama Mode. Also note Saitama's semblance on Garou's face the first time he uses Saitama Mode (Where he replicates Saitama's dumb casual face) and the second time (Where he replicates Saitama's sharply drawn serious face).

In summary, Garou should be "At least 5-A, Likely High 4-C. 4-A after copying Saitama's Strength"
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Garou was literally at the epicentre of the 4-A feat and took zero noticeable damage.
 
Ngl i still don't really believe the feat is 4-A.i just don't get how they went from a supposedly 4-A feat to a fight with basic tier 5 feats done on a small moon. I ain't gonna believe it til i see the aftereffects
 
Matthew_Schroeder said:
In summary, Garou should be "At least 5-A, Likely High 4-C. 4-A after copying Saitama's Strength"
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I don't see how that is a problem. Makes sense to me.

Also I want to ask everyone. Going by what we have right now, what rating would Blast get? Assuming we get no clarification in future chapters.
 
Muuuuh said:
The fact that Saitama moves the portals with his hands even though it is not possible, in theory, and he has managed to get into the phoenix man's dimension also makes me think of some kind of manipulation of reality or toon force for Saitama
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It would be Space-Time Manipulation I think
 
Arceus0x said:
Ngl i still don't really believe the feat is 4-A.i just don't get how they went from a supposedly 4-A feat to a fight with basic tier 5 feats done on a small moon. I ain't gonna believe it til i see the aftereffects
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I mean it's hard to argue against it but the narrative would've hype it up

Regardless y'all can fight over it
 
Muuuuh said:
The fact that Saitama moves the portals with his hands even though it is not possible, in theory, and he has managed to get into the phoenix man's dimension also makes me think of some kind of manipulation of reality or toon force for Saitama
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It's just NPI
 
I've seen the argument that the black void behind the earth is meant to be the portal that the Blast team sent the attack through... I actually find that to be surprisingly convincing. Like it's way better than it being the dark side of the moon or the shadow of the earth or whatever. It makes sense. Blast and his team divert energy through portals, then they all show up and redirect the energy and we see this massive black void behind the earth. I think it could legitimately be just a portal.

I imagine that we will likely get more context to what that was in future chapters. Murata loves to draw the crater on the moon repeatedly, so I doubt he would forget about a gaping void where stars used to be. Maybe we'll see that black void vanishing and the space looking like normal.
 
Matthew_Schroeder said:
I've seen the argument that the black void behind the earth is meant to be the portal that the Blast team sent the attack through... I actually find that to be surprisingly convincing. Like it's way better than it being the dark side of the moon or the shadow of the earth or whatever. It makes sense. Blast and his team divert energy through portals, then they all show up and redirect the energy and we see this massive black void behind the earth. I think it could legitimately be just a portal.

I imagine that we will likely get more context to what that was in future chapters. Murata loves to draw the crater on the moon repeatedly, so I doubt he would forget about a gaping void where stars used to be. Maybe we'll see that black void vanishing and the space looking like normal.
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It's the destruction of the stars, stop making excuses e-e

It doesn't make sense either, no portals had that color, no light around, the angle is completely different and they were between the Moon and Earth
 
Potential upgrade to the feat but it's possible that the recoil actually disrupted space and caused a massive black hole.



Which would upgrade the feat as well.



Open to interpretation I assume?
 
Muuuuh said:
It's the destruction of the stars, stop making excuses e-e

It doesn't make sense either, no portals had that color, no light around, the angle is completely different and they were between the Moon and Earth
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just like the gama ray thing it was made on purpose and its a clear feat and when people say wiki hate's upgrade for opm they say WE ARE NOT
 
TheRustyOne said:
Also I want to ask everyone. Going by what we have right now, what rating would Blast get?
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If we don't scale energy redirection to his other stats "High 5-A, likely Hjgh 4-C. 4-A with energy manipulation (Provided 1/5th thr energy needed to redirect the Serious Punch Clash)". Otherwise it would be 1/5th of the feat as his tier, which would still be 4-A.

Assuming the void isn't just the moon and we're viewing it incorrectly.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
If we don't scale energy redirection to his other stats "High 5-A, likely Hjgh 4-C. 4-A with energy manipulation (Provided 1/5th thr energy needed to redirect the Serious Punch Clash)". Otherwise it would be 1/5th of the feat as his tier, which would still be 4-A.

Assuming the void isn't just the moon and we're viewing it incorrectly.
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We need a Universal Energy System to scale his physicals to 4-A

And Blast has literally no feats on that, maybe in the future, but we don't know much for now
 
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