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ONE/Murata need to explain this post haste. Or are we going have another king like conversation where Saitama reiterates that he’s felt nothing against his all his opponents.
translators tryna hide the fact that saitama was hurt
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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"At least 5-A, likely High 4-C" sounds good for me
Are we going to wait for more chapters ? We likely have more feats incoming, maybe not AP but speed and LS, or simply more haxes. I wouldn't mind waiting until it's over although I understand people want to throw Garou against the whole wiki
Are we going to wait for more chapters ? We likely have more feats incoming, maybe not AP but speed and LS, or simply more haxes. I wouldn't mind waiting until it's over although I understand people want to throw Garou against the whole wiki
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Saitama took damage from the cat here I know where you stared
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This feels like an appropriate response to a charlatan like you.
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No one is assuming anything. What is being considered is that the statement of Saitama promising not to hurt Garou is actually an incorrect translation of Saitama promising not to be hurt by him, which would indeed mean he was indeed damaged. What does no selling a superior attack have to do with anything? Saitama still isn't taking any of this seriously. It doesn't mean it never happened....
Saitama's hurt comment meaning his clothes doesn't make any sense. He already complained about his clothes earlier after Garou's nuclear explosions ripped them to shreds not to mention, he was clearly looking at his gloves which were still in pristine condition. Not to mention logically, those two things aren't even close to meaning the same thing. Saitama said don't worry, I won't be hurt (paraphrasing anyway). That's what he was referring to. I legit don't understand what his clothes have to with anything.
You can be hurt without being scratched. You can't be scratched without being hurt since it is accompanied by tissue damage.The proper wording is scratched(as the translator corrected himself and VIZ has)…
Just because a character didn't act in the way you were expecting doesn't mean what was stated to have happened didn't actually happen never mind the fact that it was outright stated by Garou that Saitama was clearly visibly freaked out that someone had even managed to match his blows so this argument isn't even true.
Also, Saitama is a warrior and fought monsters even before he broke his limiter. Do you really think a little scratch is going to do anything for him? When he was talking to King he was lamenting no one being able to give him a challenge. Not "if anyone is able to do even the slightest bit of damage to me I will lose my mind". That is an exaggeration brought on by fanon interpretation and not something we should use as a hard limit on anything.
Even Saitama doesn't take normal and serious series attacks seriously. He outright states he doesn't have any kind of special attack, he's used serious punch on far weaker opponents (Elder centipede iirc) and Boros himself reveals Saitama didn't take their battle at all seriously so thinking any prior showings of these techniques have any sort of hard limit or tier to them is kind of fallacious.
This argument would be relevant if Saitama was somehow depicted to be struggling but no one is arguing that. Scratches are surface wounds. It just mean the attacks are greater than anything we've ever seen before, not that it would somehow mean he will be at all incapable of fighting. The quasar attack is kind of irrelevant to this argument.
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This is the “he took damage” all over again. Idk why the **** ONE/Murata did this shit, now everyone is gonna be talking it until it gets debunked in like the next 10 chapters when Saitama returns.
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The Boros thing was editorial text. The correct translation to this chapter confirms he took damage. Y'all too butthurt over this. Dude wasn't going to remain invulnerable forever.
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You don’t think it would? Even a scratch is a big deal. This would be the equivalent of a paralyzed person after years of feeling nothing or being incapable of moving any portion of their body is one day able to twitch their fingers. This is the first time he’s ever been “hurt” ever since he’s reached this threshold of power after believing that he couldn’t be hurt and he doesn’t give a smile, give a complement to Garou for doing the actual impossible or anything of the sort. Nothing. I hate to argue from incredulity but come on him taking damage is huge.
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I’m not bullhurt. I’m shocked, this is a major tone shift in the story and him taking damage is treated like nothing. It’s why people don’t think he did took damage in the first place. Narratively this would be the most significant event in the story. And I hope this gets debunked or is specified by author statements or Saitama reiterating never feeling pain like he did in his convo with king.
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It's really not. Saitama tanked a 5-C/Low 5-B attack and he wasn't exactly praising non-cosmic Garou for his strength either after all, despite the attack literally doing way more damage than anything Saitama has seen so far and in fact, proceeded to one shot him with ease in the next few pages. It's more evidence that his praising of Boros is deemed way more impressive than it is.
Except Garou literally mocked Saitama for being surprised that he was actually matched. I wouldn't exactly consider that being called "nothing" and the tonal shift is so minute I don't understand why you're shocked at all.
It's a scratch. Do you know what can scratch me? A kitten. Garou is now exactly Kitten tier on Saitama's level. I don't understand why a superficial wound is making the fans panic so much. Whether in fiction or real life experiencing damage from something doesn't actually indicate the maximum amount of stress your body can take.
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The artist's name is in the bottom right corner.
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Except that Low 5B attack did nothing to Saitama and only warranted a “**** off” expression from him. This attack in this chapter apparently “did something” to him, minor tho it may be it’s better than nothing, unlike every other attack he’s dealt with in the past. Are you seriously telling me that an attack that managed to “hurt” him wouldn’t warrant any sort complement or praise from Saitama after going so long without feeling pain. Nothing?
That’s just Garou’s bullshit talk, Saitama wasn’t surprised, and didn’t act it in the slightest, he gave the usual idgaf expressions and responses afterwards. Not anything like “wow I actually felt that!” with an excited tone Or “you’re pretty strong/tough, you managed to hurt me” or “it’s been so long” nothing of this sort. Again it’s treated like nothing happened.
You know how significant just a scratch is for Saitama? For someone who thought he was completely invulnerable and couldn’t feel pain anymore. Someone who went into literal depression because of his total invincibility. That’s my point, you’re making it out to seem like him taking damage, like actual damage in a fight isn’t the biggest deal in this manga so far.
The ONE needs to clarify or have Saitama clarify for us with a statement later. I’ll wait for that, cus this is utter nonsense and if it’s true this is the most underwhelming way to have Saitama take damage for the first time in this manga.
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12+ pages in 3-4 days, wow. What level will this Garou have, what new abilities, will there be atomic manipulation for a nuclear explosion? It sort of decomposes into atoms.
It is written that the explosion is the strongest in the universe of all that have been recorded. I think the System level can be found.
It is written that the explosion is the strongest in the universe of all that have been recorded. I think the System level can be found.
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But did Garou actually replicate the physcical strength of Saitama, or was it just the technique. I don't think he can copy someone else's strength other than his abilities. The paragraph explains Garou knows how everything in the universe works. But does that mean he's also able to copy power? I don't think so.
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He apparently he did according to the officials. Despite my contention seeing it is as nothing but bull and it not meaning he took physical damage necessarily.
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it will be High 5-A, likely High 4-C
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That's my point. Pre- cosmic Garou had much better feats yet Saitama wasn't exactly enthused beyond a gentle "you're doing better". Saitama thought Boros was pretty strong and praised Boros several times yet clearly that doesn't mean anything.
This isn't even true. In the very next page Saitama lamented about how he made a big deal about telling Tareo he couldn't be hurt which is kind of why the debate even started in the first place.
Geesh, who are you to dictate how Saitama is supposed to react? Not only did he note that he was actually hurt but was surprised that Garou actually matched him. You wanting something more is irrelevant to everything.
As I stated before, the manga noted it was a pretty big deal...and moved on. Saitama's issues didn't just start and stop at "I can't feel anything anymore". As revealed in his conversation with King, he also laments the fact that he can't grow, and he can't get into what amounts to an actual fight because of how strong he's become, neither of which actually happened. There's literally no indication that actually getting a scratch would be enough to heal Saitama's depression and mental issues. That's literally head canon.
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When the fight is actually over.
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Why don't you scale Garou up to the indication that this explosion is the strongest recorded in the universe?
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And by the way, will you be doing the calculations through the black hole Garou created? At the epicenter of the explosion was Garou inside the black hole, the visualization is the same, and all objects were drawn towards Garou. I think, given Garou's universal knowledge, this is a natural black hole.
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One-Punch Man: Gamma Ray Burst
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5-A comes from the black hole
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Murata really based his drawings body proportions on real people most of the times iirc
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i thought the god of light or god of darkness but they are 20 Yottatons and wave their hand to turn garou to dust
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If God did a galaxy level feat out of nowhere you legit wouldn't be able to scale Saitama to it for YEARS to come.Why every time there's a big feat someone tries to not scale Saitama?he's even a part of the feat lol
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The dust thing might be hax but he is over 10x stronger than them. Same with Fairy Tail characters.
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But here in this case it would mean something tho. Saitama congratulating/praising Garou for his feat does and would hold very significant narrative weight by highlighting and further reiterating the significance of this him being “damage” (again for first time in the manga). Garou is the first to do it ever since he removed the limiter and attained this power.
Okay fine he did, I’ll say that partially it’s just me seeing him say this nonchalantly with a plane expression on his face that makes it look like this whole sequence was nothing of grave importance.
Woah wtf dude? Jeez, what’s wrong with me giving examples of reactions that would better show/depict genuine excitement or surprise to display the significance of what’s happened here. It’s their depiction of him being hurt as a very minor thing (“Saitama gives a comments” fair, but it’s given with his usual deadman expression and immediately moved on from, exactly like you said) that’s made this “him taking physically damaged” very contentious and left it up to a different interpretation that says he didn’t get damaged. That’s the problem here.
Well Ig that’s our separate perception of what happened because I don’t think the manga made a big deal out of it, not at all. And also I didn’t say that him being scratched would fix his depression or heal his mental issues, I’m just saying that him taking damage is a very big deal and not something as minor as you’re making it out to be. This would trigger more than a nonchalant back hand comment from Saitama who as a part of what gave him depression was his inability to feel anything suddenly feels pain for the first time in a long time. It’s like for example if a person who’s disable or paralyzed for a very long time one day was able to twitch their fingers and slightly move them. Little tho it maybe it’d warrant a huge reaction which would be normal/justified.
Anyways I gotta sleep if you’re on later I’ll respond again if you respond to this. Cya man.
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I think Asura's Wrath Akuma could be a good fight for Garou
Although I get the feeling Garou's haxes are a little too strong for this Akuma
Although I get the feeling Garou's haxes are a little too strong for this Akuma
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I don't agree to that. Why is it likely? He should flat out get High 4-C.
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See y'all in two months
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At least we get 2 months to continue arguing ;]
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