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Obito Vs Ji Ning
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I mean in vs battles where a character can amp themselves into a higher tier. I'm almost 100% sure that isn't allowed, but it seems people are bringing that up as a win con.
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He doesnt need to dodge them, hes got barriers, regen, and if you’re comparing biju bombs to real life explosions then they‘d be weaker when away from the initial explosion meaning he’d likely tank it.
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I’m not at all. Ji Nings scaling is just higher into 6-C than the bijus.
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Preferably you, as I already made 2 threads, and I have a feeling I explained it pretty poorly.
I could do it later if you can't though, ain't a problem.
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And the highest possible value in 6-C is 100 Gigatons, which doesn't even give him a 2x ap advantage.
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We should probably wait until this thread has a conclusion before we continue with this vs battles.
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Probably, yeah. As that is pretty crucial.
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Made the question here. Used a hypothetical to illustrate it.
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Yet in this case as
Imagine hundreds of flying Sword shaped biju bombs attacking all while being 36 gigatons stronger than your average bijus durability who has trouble tanking attacks from each other. Do I gotta bring up Gyuki, one of the strongest bijus getting hurt by Koukou’s horns? These swords are tearing through the bijus
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They just regenerate from the attack.Yet in this case as
Imagine hundreds of flying Sword shaped biju bombs attacking all while being 36 gigatons stronger than your average bijus durability who has trouble tanking attacks from each other. Do I gotta bring up Gyuki, one of the strongest bijus getting hurt by Koukou’s horns? These swords are tearing through the bijus
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Normal bijuu bombs are 6C and high 6C when charged, I don't see him tanking.
Once again danmaku gets vaped by heat, stop bringing it up.
Bijuu bombs attack speed is also much higher than ji nings, he isn't dodging the bombs themselves, neither is he fast enough to escape the origin point of the explosion and the bombs can also be fired as beams. He isn't dodging any of this
Once again danmaku gets vaped by heat, stop bringing it up.
Bijuu bombs attack speed is also much higher than ji nings, he isn't dodging the bombs themselves, neither is he fast enough to escape the origin point of the explosion and the bombs can also be fired as beams. He isn't dodging any of this
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No matter the number of votes ning gets, obito's Win cons havent been countered yet.
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The danmaku now being talked about is rays of Sword energy, not sure how that's being vaporised by lava. The Rainwater Domain just cancels it out but the aforementioned danmaku will work out just fine.
Never mind how regardless of how the oneshot question thread goes, Ning isn't even tickled by 6-C+ attacks. The regular bombs aren't hurting him and those requiring charge up can just be Interrupted considering their speed is equal and the charge up time would be relative to him.
And they've been addressed repeatedly. Mot agreeing on whether or not they've been addressed isn't the same as not addressing them at all.
Never mind how regardless of how the oneshot question thread goes, Ning isn't even tickled by 6-C+ attacks. The regular bombs aren't hurting him and those requiring charge up can just be Interrupted considering their speed is equal and the charge up time would be relative to him.
And they've been addressed repeatedly. Mot agreeing on whether or not they've been addressed isn't the same as not addressing them at all.
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its 6-b when charged, that also got restricted in this fight since if it wasnt we have to bring Ji Nings second form in which stomps.
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Bijuu make booms
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Eh the lavas ambient heat cant even burn away trees much less energy itself.
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6B is combined Bijuu bomb. Is the energy sword danmaku continous? Otherwise yagura reflects all with water mirror.
Bijuu are gonna regenerte from the energy danmaku, obito still has gunbai, absorption through preta path and wood style.
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Charged bijuu bomb beam is enough to vape him
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His mirrors not big enough to reflect 700+ swords all attacking different points and different characters. Gunbai won't defend against being attacked from different points either, Obito doesn't use the rinnegan abilities, Kakashi literally explained this.
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It most certainly is in character for him, especially if he's getting pushed far enough to where he unable to get close.
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Exactly that's what I was trying to say but everyone keeps head canoning it. So he can genjutsu Ji and bfr him with kamui
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when did he use genjutsu when he was getting pushed?
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And you brought up one example which we refuted
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That's the thing, he hasn't really been pushed to the limit. When he fought Kakashi in the kamui dimension, they started off with a genjutsu battle, then went into hand two hand combat. Also everyone he fought during the war had some way to counter it as well.
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So he never actually does genjutsu when he gets pushed unless also fighting another sharingan user? I mean I've read Naruto I know Obito isn't a genjutsu user unless it's dependent to further his plan like with Konan or Yagura. You guys tryna argue genjutsu when it's literally something he doesn't offensively do.
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I never argued its his first move, but to say he'd never use it against an opponent he's never met is pretty ridiculous and baseless.
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It's not ridiculous also argument from absurdity much? And it's not baseless, Obito fought Naruto and Minato, two of the strongest people he's ever fought and never did genjutsu to them. To say he'd do it when getting pushed is baseless since when he was actually getting pushed by Minato he didn't try it, against Naruto, he didn't try it even though that would've been one of the best moments to do it.
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Naruto at that point was a perfect jinchuuraki which are really really hard to control
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He knows the result against Naruto. Why waste his chakra
Doesn't even try.
Also Kakashi also had a MS and could have broken Naruto out
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He's literally controlled full kuruma. and he genjutsued Yagura in the past. Are we forgetting a weak ms sasuke could genjutsu a perfect jinchuriki aka Bee? The guy just isn't into genjutsuing when he's pushed. Each time we bring up Obito genjutsuing someone it's either to further his plan or get intel.
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Kakashi wasn't around what are you talking about?
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And this is when context comes into play, both naruto and minato have kurama which can break them both out of genjutsu as show with Bee when Sasuke put him under a Genjutsu. Also to say Obito won't use Genjutsu because he hasn't used it in battle is pretty baseless. He uses it depending on the situation and you inability to accept that isn't my issue, it's a win con whether you like it or not.
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Are you forgetting Bee broke out and obliterated Sasukes chest?
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Controlling a Bijuu doesn't mean you can control the Jinchuuraki. and Yagura was alone.
Bee could break out.
Forgot that kakashi was not there at that point. The point still stands with Bee though
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Uh it does. you realize Jinchurikis only have resistance because the bijus can break them out right? If Obito > Kuruma then Obito > naruto and bee. And it's Genjutsu, we saw Bee go to sleep right away, Obito would need a second to have genjutsued and stabbed or hurt them and by time they broke out it'll be over yet he just doesn't do this. Ya tryna reach and downplay Obito at the same time its not working.
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You have it wrong, the reason is because naruto would be under the genjutsu and not kuruma who would be free to break him out. Bee pretend so he could catch sasuke by surprise and get an attack on.
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