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Obito Vs Ji Ning

XDragnoir said:
Can be blocked by his water domain that can regen with a single thought or just evaded with speed amps and sheer skill.
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Water domain gets vaped by the heat, there's no water left. He regens the water, it gets vaped again.
XDragnoir said:
If by "overdose kaguya" you mean that thing should somehow grant 5C AP then that technique will be restricted just like the 6B attacks Obito had.
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Damn autocorrect, "overdose" lol. Not explicitly stating it gives 5C, just as some other techniques depends on the user the 5C is only relevant to naruto. I'm just saying koukou could also amp his AP and speed to straight up oneshot ji ning.
XDragnoir said:
Ning has a speed amp, has dodged danmaku before while less skilled than he is in this key, has 360° vision, mind-split to keep focus on entirely different things at the same time and a danger sense... As well as barriers with regen that could tank these attacks due to having better dura, like, Ning will be more than successful regardless of the route he takes here.
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What was the AoE of the danmaku he dodged? These beast bomb barrage's cover entire mountains, obi to has speed amps through different stages of sharingan.
XDragnoir said:
What's the strongest attack he has absorbed before? Ning can attack from all directions with his attacks so i doubt a single weapon is doing the job that well but regardless of that i want to see Obito's feats for absorption.
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What's the AP for naruto's bijuu bomb rasengan (not the max of what it can absorb)? Gunbai is just for personal defense for moments when he stops being intangible. Once again danmaku gets vaped. Fire attacks are countered by isobu and yagura's water.
 
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
The OP states 6-C versions, so he wouldn't be able to use his High 6-C AP. Also I was told in another thread by a staff member that we don't scale one shots like that.
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We are using his 6C version tho?

Ning outscales them regardless, he sees characters that scale to 59GTs as literal fodder in this key and has casually killed them with one hit before, why wouldn't he be able to do the same here?
 
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
The OP states 6-C versions, so he wouldn't be able to use his High 6-C AP. Also I was told in another thread by a staff member that we don't scale one shots like that.
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He is 6-C though. He just oneshots people who oneshot people who oneshot 6-Cs.
 
Also, what's with Naruto and Ji Ning? At this point, he'll run the entire 6-C gauntlet.
 
That's awfully arbitrary but alright. He grievously injures people who grievously injured people with durability comparable to Obito?
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Water domain gets vaped by the heat, there's no water left. He regens the water, it gets vaped again.
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So the lava is never touching him? And like, he can dodge, there is nothing holding him in place yk.
Tatsumi504 said:
Damn autocorrect, "overdose" lol. Not explicitly stating it gives 5C, just as some other techniques depends on the user the 5C is only relevant to naruto. I'm just saying koukou could also amp his AP and speed to straight up oneshot ji ning.
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Like, did that technique ever one shot someone? And if it's best feat doesn't even apply to Obito why are you bringing it up?
Tatsumi504 said:
hat was the AoE of the danmaku he dodged? These beast bomb barrage's cover entire mountains, obi to has speed amps through different stages of sharingan.
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10,000 or so arrows. Ning and his barriers can block them as well.

Why would Obito's amp matter to the speed of Biju Bombs?
 
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
I keep seeing people bring up his High 6-C tier so I was confused. And like I said above, I was told we don't scale one shooting in verse characters like that in the thread I'll link below.

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I can give you his scaling chain if you want but like, from his water domain to his 700+ flying swords they are all cutting damage that Ning aims at weak spots so they're killing someone with comparable AP regardless... And Obito would still scale lower regardless cause his scaling chain is just massive.
 
XDragnoir said:
So the lava is never touching him? And like, he can dodge, there is nothing holding him in place yk.
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Not arguing lava touching him, talking about lava and flames neutralizing the danmaku
XDragnoir said:
Like, did that technique ever one shot someone? And if it's best feat doesn't even apply to Obito why are you bringing it up
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Why won't I bring it up? Its an amp to bother his speed and AP.
XDragnoir said:
10,000 or so arrows. Ning and his barriers can block them as well.

Why would Obito's amp matter to the speed of Biju Bombs?
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Obito's amp matters being relative to ji ning not bijuu bombs.

What AoE did said arrows cover? Bijuu bombs are as wide as entire mountains
 
XDragnoir said:
I can give you his scaling chain if you want but like, from his water domain to his 700+ flying swords they are all cutting damage that Ning aims at weak spots so they're killing someone with comparable AP regardless... And Obito would still scale lower regardless cause his scaling chain is just massive.
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I mean, he can scale as high as he wants, he isn't scaling high enough to one shot anyone, which seems to be what alot of the votes were for. Obito and the bijuu also have regen, so hitting their vitals (unless it's the brain for obito) doesn't do much.
 
Pretty sure I made a thread similar to your question.

If characters are equal in AP, but one of them scales to one shotting their value, then they should one shot their opponent as well.

Man, I keep getting conflicted answers here and there. Probably gotta make another thread.
 
Explosions are anywhere between mach 5-10 for gases and mach 5-30 for solids, what would a bijuu bomb be in this case, solid or gas? If ji ning isn't hypersonic he isn't dodging bijuu bombs
 
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"Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles."

"As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added."

Just want to add this here Just in case his speed amps play a big factor for him winning.
 
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
I mean, he can scale as high as he wants, he isn't scaling high enough to one shot anyone, which seems to be what alot of the votes were for. Obito and the bijuu also have regen, so hitting their vitals (unless it's the brain for obito) doesn't do much.
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He would though 😂. The jinchurikis are high 7-A so he one shots them, then in biju form they only scale to 64 gigatons and as I’ve brought up before they struggle with tanking their own biju bombs (Gyuki), and Ji Nings ap is hundreds of times above a mountain lvl character so he’d one shot.
 
Nelliels said:
He would though 😂. The jinchurikis are high 7-A so he one shots them, then in biju form they only scale to 64 gigatons and as I’ve brought up before they struggle with tanking their own biju bombs (Gyuki), and Ji Nings ap is hundreds of times above a mountain lvl character so he’d one shot.
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You seem very misinformed about Naruto. Gyuki didn't "barely" tank his TBB, he was heavily damaged prior to getting hit and only went back to base because he used up his chakra. He isn't going to one shot anyone.
 
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
"Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles."

"As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added."

Just want to add this here Just in case his speed amps play a big factor for him winning.
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Nah its not that big. It's an amp, sure, but ain't that big.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
Pretty sure I made a thread similar to your question.

If characters are equal in AP, but one of them scales to one shotting their value, then they should one shot their opponent as well.

Man, I keep getting conflicted answers here and there. Probably gotta make another thread.
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Eh I always see people making points about a character having a 2x difference in ap being a valid win con so shouldnt be a problem. Also whats Ji Ning’s difference in him one shotting characters in his verse
 
Nelliels said:
He would though 😂. The jinchurikis are high 7-A so he one shots them, then in biju form they only scale to 64 gigatons and as I’ve brought up before they struggle with tanking their own biju bombs (Gyuki), and Ji Nings ap is hundreds of times above a mountain lvl character so he’d one shot.
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Again, peak Xiantian lifeforms are hundreds to a thousand times 7-A I.e. 6-C. That's where Ning's scaling chain starts.
 
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
You seem very misinformed about Naruto. Gyuki didn't "barely" tank his TBB, he was heavily damaged prior to getting hit and only went back to base because he used up his chakra. He isn't going to one shot anyone
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Im not. Gyuki did barely tank it and I provided evidence already. Prior to getting hit by his own biju bomb he was fine. And please understand the argument. If the bijus are only 64 gigatons and Ji Ning scales far above that then he would one shot.
 
Nelliels said:
Im not. Gyuki did barely tank it and I provided evidence already. Prior to getting hit by his own biju bomb he was fine. And please understand the argument. If the bijus are only 64 gigatons and Ji Ning scales far above that then he would one shot.
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He doesn't scale far above that, at most he'd be 100 gigs, which isn't even a 2x difference.
 
Also like, why are the bombs an issue? He tanks them with little issue.

Rikimarox2 said:
Pretty sure I made a thread similar to your question.

If characters are equal in AP, but one of them scales to one shotting their value, then they should one shot their opponent as well.

Man, I keep getting conflicted answers here and there. Probably gotta make another thread.
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Should I make it rn or will you? I feel that's pretty important.
 
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