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Obito Vs Ji Ning

Naeblis495 said:
Ji have low high regen, that pretty much neg anything he can't dodge that isn't genjutsu or sealing.

And 8 hours rain tempest + thought based soul hax is better than kamui and genjutsu. Jin is far more likely to use his domain and soul hax than obito using genjutsu or gedo chains
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It won’t they can vape him with biju bombs proof he can dodge 5 biju bombs at once? Obito will genjutsu JI and bfr him and izangi if he needs it
Nelliels said:
Already addressed this. stop bringing up old arguments. who has passive heat?
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son goku he has lava heat aura
 
Nelliels said:
Saikens acid gets dodged.
Boil release gets dodged.
Roshi's lava gets dodged.
Yagura's water mirror is cool but as we saw its only equal to what it mirrors so ji Ning can just hit it.
Obito Gunbai is good but he can't absorb every thing with it.
Obito generally doesn't use Genjutsu and we've addressed this numerous times.
Gedo sealing is not in character.
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AoE floating acid bubbles while trying to dodge koukou and dodging bijuu bomb barrage? There's a limit to wank you know?

Roshi can clad himself in lava while attacking ning. A weaker version of kura ma cloak could tank amaterasu (said to have the heat of the sun), roshi lava heat could bypass Kcm cloak which is superior to kurama cloak and hurt naruto. Danmaku is getting vaped by roshi and reflected by water mirror.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
AoE floating acid bubbles while trying to dodge koukou and dodging bijuu bomb barrage? There's a limit to wank you know?

Roshi can clad himself in lava while attacking ning. A weaker version of kura ma cloak could tank amaterasu (said to have the heat of the sun), roshi lava heat could bypass Kcm cloak which is superior to kurama cloak and hurt naruto. Danmaku is getting vaped by roshi and reflected by water mirror.
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Bubbles counter danmaku too and various powerful jutsu from the biju since obito is controlling them
 
GokuSparkle said:
Kamui

Sorta

Kamui suck
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But he can use izangi Or genjutsu then bfr JI. Obito has way more win cons than JI when everyone is just fra training the whole thing. From head canon and misinformation and multiple fallacy’s you name it that’s why I am leaving vs wiki after the nnt upgrades I may come back
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Thats not enough to dodge even the TBB barrage alone, obito can match his amp through sharingan amp too
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The biju can rapid spam biju bomb and charge it to one shot JI they just won’t accepted that obito can win this trough hax and versatility and is more likely too win so they need to stop the head canon and the fra train
 
While Genjutsu isn't Obito's first move (he spams Kamui), it is in character and he used against the Nine Tails and others jn order to control them

I was asked to comment here but oof 5 pages is a lot, can anyone give me a tldr ?
 
Lightning_XXI said:
While Genjutsu isn't Obito's first move (he spams Kamui), it is in character and he used against the Nine Tails and others jn order to control them

I was asked to comment here but oof 5 pages is a lot, can anyone give me a tldr ?
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Basically Ji Ning’s got constant one shots for the Bijus to not be a problem with his rain drops, he’s got soul hax to deal with the jinchurikis since ya know the Jinchurikis are souls summoned back to the living world. He far out skills Obito, has danger sensing that lets him sense kilometers away so no surprise attacks will happen. hes also got ki absorption so can probably just absorb biju bombs

obitos genjutsu not in character offensively, mostly used for intel, in plans like the kuruma rampage, used it to get intel from Konan so it’s not a win con. Kamui wont be an issue since hes gotta be up close and Ji Ning has danmaku and constant raindrops that can damage Obito, his soul hax. Obitos gonna have to stay back and watch his bijus get slapped up. If he tries upclose fights and considering Ji Nings constant attack with his raindrops or the fact he can spawn fire on obito, obito will try izanagi which just makes him lose an eye
 
Nelliels said:
Basically Ji Ning’s got constant one shots for the Bijus to not be a problem with his rain drops, he’s got soul hax to deal with the jinchurikis since ya know the Jinchurikis are souls summoned back to the living world. He far out skills Obito, has danger sensing that lets him sense kilometers away so no surprise attacks will happen. hes also got ki absorption so can probably just absorb biju bombs

obitos genjutsu not in character offensively, mostly used for intel, in plans like the kuruma rampage, used it to get intel from Konan so it’s not a win con. Kamui wont be an issue since hes gotta be up close and Ji Ning has danmaku and constant raindrops that can damage Obito, his soul hax. Obitos gonna have to stay back and watch his bijus get slapped up. If he tries upclose fights and considering Ji Nings constant attack with his raindrops or the fact he can spawn fire on obito, obito will try izanagi which just makes him lose an eye
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Ji is not oneshotting the biju they are stronger than him and have hax to counter JI. Enough with the head canon and weak counter arguments.
 
Aren't everything higher tiered restricted as per OP? Pretty sure we went over this already.

If you want Kurama and the others be available, then Ning should High 6C, and Obito as well.
 
Nelliels said:
They are 6-C, Ji Ning is High 6-C.

biju bombs scales to 64gigatons. Ji Ning scales above 7-A stating to be hundreds or thousands of times stronger. So yeah he’s destroying the bijus
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The op said they are only using their 6c plus keys read the op
 
Nelliels said:
He's 6-C for the same reasoning I gave, if he's considered likely High 6-C then that means he's above the bijus lol
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We are only using the 6c versions read the op same for Ji stop picking and choosing the jins scale to high 6c too likely higher
What’s good for the geese is good for the gander
 
speedster352 said:
We are only using the 6c versions read the op same for Ji stop picking and choosing the jins scale to high 6c too likely higher
What’s good for the geese is good for the gander
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You dont understand lol.

if Ji ning is rated 6-C for scaling hundreds of times above a mountain lvl character then hes still above the bijus no matter how you look at it.
 
Nelliels said:
You dont understand lol.

if Ji ning is rated 6-C for scaling hundreds of times above a mountain lvl character then hes still above the bijus no matter how you look at it.
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Ning actually scales far, far above his early Xiantian level, which is what scales to 200-1000x 7-A.

So like you say, regardless of which tier, Ning oneshots people who oneshot the 6-C value he scales too.

Also, I think grace started with Zara's vote.

Also, what's the current issue? I saw someone mention individual bijuu abilities.
 
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speedster352 said:
Ji is not oneshotting the biju they are stronger than him and have hax to counter JI. Enough with the head canon and weak counter arguments.
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Nanabi, the strongest Biju Obito has, is 6C+/64,3GTs, Ning at stage 4 with no amps is 59,7GTs, that's literally a 4,6GT gap, literally nothing... But the Ning being used here is at stage 9 and has several amps for both close and long range fights.

Like, even putting the one shots aside that scaling alone puts Ning way above any of the Biju.

And Ning can block any of their elemental attacks, be it lava, bubbles or whatever with his water barrier that can regen from damage with a thought.
 
Nelliels said:
@Nelliels , @XDragnoir , @mal (assuming), @Planck69 , @OnsokunoSonic , @Rikimarox2, @Naeblis495

6 for Ji Ning

@speedster352 , @AdNiBN002 , @Tatsumi504, @YoutubeForKing (assuming)

@mal Who you voting for?
@YoutubeForKing Are you voting for Obito?
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ji ning
speedster352 said:
But he can use izangi Or genjutsu then bfr JI. Obito has way more win cons than JI when everyone is just fra training the whole thing. From head canon and misinformation and multiple fallacy’s you name it that’s why I am leaving vs wiki after the nnt upgrades I may come back
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he cant bfr if he used izanagi. how many times ppl need to tell u. this obito key only have 1 ms n 1rinnegan. if he used izanagi then he cant bfr ji bcuz he dont have ms anymore. no more intangible no more bfr
 
Once again no one has countered these point;
-water mirror copying danmaku (was already used to copy naruto and bee who were far stronger than yagura).

-Heat from roshi lava vaping danmaku (normal kurama cloak is inferior to kcm, kurama cloak can tank amaterasu which is stated to be as hot as the sun yet the kcm cloak was getting burned from the heat).

-koukou being able to amp his strength and speed via <boil release: unrivaled strength> can be argued as a one shot. (Naruto using said technique was able to overdose kaguya who was attempting to attack him).

-All being relative to each other in speed, ji ning won't be dodging saiken's acid bubbles + bijuu dama that has 7A+ range and 6C AP.

-obito absorbing and reflecting danmaku with the gunbai.

-Sealing chains from gedo being used to seal ji ning.
 
you can reflect his own attacks and hurt him as much as you want, he regen completely from a drop of blood : Hurting him is pretty much useless.

You won't be able to anyway given his danger senses, skills and speed amps.

Also, no way they can reflect the entirety of a danmaku attack that is compared to a rain tempest. they can reflect a part but not all given their feats.

Sealing chains are not in characther for obito.
The biju, even with their strongest attacks scale way lower than Ji.

Danmaku Domain and soul hax are first actions against unknown or strong ennemies for Ji.
 
Naeblis495 said:
you can reflect his own attacks and hurt him as much as you want, he regen completely from a drop of blood : Hurting him is pretty much useless.

You won't be able to anyway given his danger senses, skills and speed amps.

Also, no way they can reflect the entirety of a danmaku attack that is compared to a rain tempest. they can reflect a part but not all given their feats.

Sealing chains are not in characther for obito.
The biju, even with their strongest attacks scale way lower than Ji.

Danmaku Domain and soul hax are first actions against unknown or strong ennemies for Ji.
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Son goku and matatabi lava and flames passively vape his water based danmaku, how many times are you gonna ignore this?

Sealing chains are definitely in character, using it only against bijuu doesn't make it ooc.

Amps aren't gonna help him dodge 7A+ range explosions, acid, steam, flames.

Koukou can amp himself to one shot him as well.

He isn't regenerating from getting vaped.
 
Wait, Bijuudama have 6-C+ AP? I thought they were like Low 6-B.

In that case then Ning walks through the attacks with ease.

Also lol at any oneshotting going on. H3 oneshots his early Zifu self, who oneshots early Wanxiang Adepts, who oneshot regular Zifu Disciples who oneshot peak Xiantian lifeforms, who are at 6-C+.
 
And all of that before he just uses his several hundred sword formation to just send out energy attacks to oneshot them? Or his fireballs I guess.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Once again no one has countered these point;
-water mirror copying danmaku (was already used to copy naruto and bee who were far stronger than yagura).
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That one was adressed on the previous pages why it wouldn't work.

Tatsumi504 said:
-Heat from roshi lava vaping danmaku (normal kurama cloak is inferior to kcm, kurama cloak can tank amaterasu which is stated to be as hot as the sun yet the kcm cloak was getting burned from the heat).
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Can be blocked by his water domain that can regen with a single thought or just evaded with speed amps and sheer skill.

Tatsumi504 said:
koukou being able to amp his strength and speed via <boil release: unrivaled strength> can be argued as a one shot. (Naruto using said technique was able to overdose kaguya who was attempting to attack him).
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If by "overdose kaguya" you mean that thing should somehow grant 5C AP then that technique will be restricted just like the 6B attacks Obito had.

Tatsumi504 said:
All being relative to each other in speed, ji ning won't be dodging saiken's acid bubbles + bijuu dama that has 7A+ range and 6C AP.
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Ning has a speed amp, has dodged danmaku before while less skilled than he is in this key, has 360° vision, mind-split to keep focus on entirely different things at the same time and a danger sense... As well as barriers with regen that could tank these attacks due to having better dura, like, Ning will be more than successful regardless of the route he takes here.

Tatsumi504 said:
obito absorbing and reflecting danmaku with the gunbai.
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What's the strongest attack he has absorbed before? Ning can attack from all directions with his attacks so i doubt a single weapon is doing the job that well but regardless of that i want to see Obito's feats for absorption.

Tatsumi504 said:
Sealing chains from gedo being used to seal ji ning.
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