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In my above points I already discussed why I think the scaling is valid.No there really isn't. Saying context without evidence doesn't mean anything.
There is nothing factual here, Boros was impressive via regeneration. Saitama would've killed him or caused fatal damage to him with his first punch out of the armor, and even with the armor and regen he could've one shotted him with zero effort at anytime. Saitama himself even states there isn't anyone he can't beat in one punch.
Trying to scale characters to each other via Saitama is a bad call. Because someone needs to provide proof that if Saitama fought someone as strong as Boros again, he'd actually call them strong and wouldn't just be bored out of his mind and treat them like a joke like he did Orochi.
If Boros had happen first, then no duh he'd be stronger for wiki scaling. But right now this scaling is speculation, no factual evidence or 100% certainty in anything.
He isn't thinking about Boros, and someone of Boros' strength would bore him in the same situation he fought Orochi in as well. Because they're all nothing compared to himself. Can someone actually provide proof that Saitama wouldn't be bored, even though he can effortlessly one shot both of them?
This is all speculation, and the fact that people don't want Orochi>Boros. Which I understand, I don't think that makes sense either. But personal opinion doesn't mean much in terms of scaling on this wiki.
Not yet. But 90% hollowness is definitely nonsenseDid anyone fix the hollowness on that Boros ship calc?
I think we've discussed before on why hollowness being 90 percent is nonsensical
Boros doesn't use his regeneration at all until his right arm was smashed off by Saitama, and even then he continues fighting for a long time before actually regenerating. Saitama called Boros strong after experiencing his true power and before his regeneration. In the entire fight, Boros is only shown using his regeneration twice.There is nothing factual here, Boros was impressive via regeneration. Saitama would've killed him or caused fatal damage to him with his first punch out of the armor
I'm still not entirely convinced that all of the current Boros and Garou statements are not applicable, but maybe that's just meunless we get another Boros and Garou statement in the future
I don't see how this is a bored faceSaitama's cold quote with a bored face
Can someone explain why that means he scales to Orochi beyond personal opinion/speculation.Boros doesn't use his regeneration at all until his right arm was smashed off by Saitama, and even then he continues fighting for a long time before actually regenerating. Saitama called Boros strong after experiencing his true power and before his regeneration. In the entire fight, Boros is only shown using his regeneration twice.
I have no intention of changing OPM stats.Make a thread, then. It's currently on the profiles.
Saitama looked shcoked at MB boros, he lands more hits, Boros is called strong multiple times, and keeps up with and surpasses normal Saitama throughout their fight. He is casually above Gery, Melz, and Gror in his armored form, who had a slim chance of beating Orochi working together, a weaker Garou who is not comparable to Boros is able to dodge some of Orochi's attacks. Saitama did not think Orochi was the monster king, but rather the monster rince, and called him a child. Saying he was just powerful enough to vent some anger. Even thougn much larger, his body is torn to shreds by normal punches, and his Gae Canon is countered by a serious squirt gun, a weaker attack than a serious punch.Can someone explain why that means he scales to Orochi beyond personal opinion/speculation.
Can anyone provide in universe factual evidence?
To be fair, Gyoro Gyoro did tell Orochi not to kill Garou, so Orochi was somewhat holding back in the fighta weaker Garou who is not comparable to Boros is able to dodge some of Orochi's attacks
But not wanting to kill would not be a reason to not use your full speed. I understand the point though.To be fair, Gyoro Gyoro told Orochi not to kill Garou, so Orochi was somewhat holding back in the fight
I think you have some good points, I enjoy the discussion. Don't feel pressured into stopping if you don't want to.Disagree, I do not see how that relates to any scaling whatsoever as explained above.
However I'll drop the topic. As I do not want to cause issues or any arguments for something I'm not fighting for.
Actually there would be a reason since we learn that orochi had been purposefully concealing his strengthBut not wanting to kill would not be a reason to not use your full speed. I understand the point though.
I think you have some good points, I enjoy the discussion. Don't feel pressured into stopping if you don't want to.
Although I do think the facts I just provided give multiple scaling avenues which place Boros a notch or two above Orochi.
I will concede on that point then, but the Gery, Mel, and Gror scaling, Saitama being shocked at MB Boros's speed/attacks, Orochi's far larger body being shreded by normal punches, a clearly weaker serious move being used, Saitama calling him the Monster Prince and a child, and Boros' unleashed form almost matching a casual saitama, and Saitama calling Boros strong all put him above Orochi.Actually there would be a reason since we learn that orochi had been purposefully concealing his strength
So that's your suggestion ? We accepting stuff based on offsite users believing on it ? That was never the case, and even then, the CRTs were closed, it's not 100% rejected, it's on stand by until the next fight is overmeme: people from other wikis:saitama planet buster,ok sounds right sounds right VSWB start 1000 discussions about whether saitama is a planet or not you literally clip your own wings for just nonsense things you make up
i don't mean that they get too complicated with something that is simpler to understand, saitama did all that effortlesslySo that's your suggestion ? We accepting stuff based on offsite users believing on it ? That was never the case, and even then, the CRTs were closed, it's not 100% rejected, it's on stand by until the next fight is over
it's wrongBro everyone know that
liar. scans.murata said that if saitama fought against the current goku, he would not be sure who would win (imply that both are possibly even)
it's wrong
liar. scans.
It's a 'I don't know' I don't know who could win, if Saitama or Gokuhe says I don't know. that implies nothing like you say.
I created a threadCan someone explain why that means he scales to Orochi beyond personal opinion/speculation.
Can anyone provide in universe factual evidence?
you created WW5 buddy , for real though i will take a look
I think it's a matter of standard procedure, no character would've been upgraded for a higher Tier with a battle right at the corner, and there's the fact that not everyone consider Saitama's current case as simple, there's room for debatei don't mean that they get too complicated with something that is simpler to understand, saitama did all that effortlessly
Why tf was that? He made both series, he knows better than any of us...Even One's quote about Tatsumaki Vs Mob was rejected
Even if he said with all the words "Saitama defeats Goku" that would mean nothing as he is no authority for Dragon Ball characters, and we don't know how much he knows (and scales) Goku
Even One's quote about Tatsumaki Vs Mob was rejected
I think it's a matter of standard procedure, no character would've been upgraded for a higher Tier with a battle right at the corner, and there's the fact that not everyone consider Saitama's current case as simple, there's room for debate
From Tatsumaki's profile: "Please do not attempt to scale Mob to Tatsumaki or vice versa. The statement from ONE about this is old and outdated, and both characters have since gained very different levels of feats in terms of both speed and strength."Why tf was that? He made both series, he knows better than any of us...
It is like saying that you contradict the author if there is a way for him to contradict himself, when he does not contradict himself, we are only looking for an excuse for contradictionWhy tf was that? He made both series, he knows better than any of us...
Tbf it was rejected for the manga, it could potentially be usable for the webcomic.Even One's quote about Tatsumaki Vs Mob was rejected