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Calc stacking would be like, taking the 4.33c value that Garou scales to and using that to calc Saitama punching him. The PS thing is just using a multiplier.
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You can't use such a huge multiplier just because. The figure is too high, and PS did not even come close to showing something for Low 6-B.
Moreover, if you are scaling strength, then why not scaling speed?
Even assuming that an A class hero only has Mach 1, that would give 43,000,000 light speeds.
Moreover, if you are scaling strength, then why not scaling speed?
Even assuming that an A class hero only has Mach 1, that would give 43,000,000 light speeds.
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Does anybody else think that Darkshine and possibly some other heroes can be scaled to Garou's 6-C calc? In OPM Darkshine is treated as the strongest hero physically barring King. We know that Garou doesn't kill humans which means his 6-C attack wasn't intended to kill Flashy Flash. And since he never fought FF before he had no way of knowning that his durability is superior to Darkshine's. He only had in-universe information to go. So it can be concluded that for Garou (before fighting FF):
Darkshine's durability > Darkshine's AP > Flash's estimated durability ≤ 6-C attack
Darkshine's durability > Darkshine's AP > Flash's estimated durability ≤ 6-C attack
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No. Flashy Flash can fight Platinum Sperm, who can tank attacks from Garou, and I doubt Garou wants to hold back against Platinum Sperm.
And scaling wise, Platinum Sperm is far above Darkshine.
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You somehow selectively use when you can use physics, and when not. That is, a Garou that has accelerated can be FTL, but BS can't overcome the light speed threshold with a multiplier.
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I just realized, Sage Centipede spawned the spear tip that Orochi was pierced with and is implied to have come from the remains of Orochi or Orochi was a sacrifice that spawned SC as SC forms from the spear tip and covers the alter in his goo state shown in the Garou vs Platinum vs Flashy chapter. What does this mean? Is it implying Orochi was a sacrifice that only warranted SC to appear? Is SC supposed to be stronger than Orochi?
Or kinda going back to my old theory, it might be possible that Orochi, SC, and EOW are all the sacrifices needed for God to appear. I believe pieces of each of them are all within the altar area by now with EOW's Tsunami going into the holes, SC likely still has a large section of his body in the hole and Orochi was already in the alter area. If that's the case, I wonder if they would all be comparable to each other.
Regardless, I guess it maybe depends on what happens during and after Garou vs Saitama and in the redraws of Psyrochi merge if there are going to be redrawn because I'd imagine Orochi having interesting thoughts and statements about being a sacrifice for God.
Or kinda going back to my old theory, it might be possible that Orochi, SC, and EOW are all the sacrifices needed for God to appear. I believe pieces of each of them are all within the altar area by now with EOW's Tsunami going into the holes, SC likely still has a large section of his body in the hole and Orochi was already in the alter area. If that's the case, I wonder if they would all be comparable to each other.
Regardless, I guess it maybe depends on what happens during and after Garou vs Saitama and in the redraws of Psyrochi merge if there are going to be redrawn because I'd imagine Orochi having interesting thoughts and statements about being a sacrifice for God.
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I noticed that Released Boros is still MHS even though he scales above Orochi, who is now MHS+. Shouldn’t Boros’s speed be upgraded too?
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Saitama complimented Boros’ strength, not his speed.
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Why would Boros be above Orochi if Orochi's feats are so much better?
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...There was an entire discussion about why Boros climbed Orochi, in short it's Saitama finding Orochi a joke and calling Boros strong.
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Strong, not fast.
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I feel like that's missing something. The conclusion of the boros fight was essentially Saitama giving up on the idea of a fullfilling battle. In a lot of saitamas early fights he was hoping to find a worthy opponent, for example carnage kabuto. However after the boros fight you never see him do this, instead EC, Orochi and even garou now are moreso pressure release in his mind.
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Well, there are a few more reasons, but this was the main one if I'm not mistaken, to be honest this whole discussion was kind of weird in some ways, but I won't complain, the fact is that Boros scales above Orochi in scaling.
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Except that anyone would be strong for Saitama at that moment since no one had ever survived a punch from Saitama.
Not to mention that Saitama didn't say that Orochi was a Joke, he said that he could vent his anger
In my opinion timing is the most important, Saitama calm and excited when he fought Boros and was surprised that someone survived his punch for the first time.
In the actual part, Saitama is angry about the problems in his apartment that the Monster Association has caused and wants to vent his anger.
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It's on his page. If you want to change it, make a CRT
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When did I say I wanted to change it? I didn’t know that was a thing
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I mean, you seem to have issues with it. Others may as well. It still may be a good idea to make a CRT if you care enough.When did I say I wanted to change it? I didn’t know that was a thing
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I forgot because Boros' page was locked
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already used this argument to not scale Boros above Orochi before and it didn't work, if you want to demote Boros you need a stronger argument.
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This is a normal argument. It's just that people want to scale Boros.
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That's why I say you need more facts to support this, just using this argument will result in failure.
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Calcs??
Because the argument for Scale Boros based on Saitama's phrases is even weaker
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there are other arguments, I suggest you look for some CRT involving Boros and Orochi, as I really don't have the patience to look.
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Beautiful
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I'm especially amused by scaling Boros' blue form to Orochi's peak when his CRSC with not the worst lowball is 5 times less than Orochi's lowball
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I don't particularly see anything in Boros that is above Orochi. Boros' feats are way below, there's not even something solid to scale, just a loose sentence from Saitama, which doesn't help much since Saitama had never seen anyone survive his punch, obviously he would consider anyone who survived as someone strong.
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That and Saitama post-Boros straight up said he hasn't met a monster that could survive a normal punch from him.
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Until then no, today we have a list. Orochi, Evil Natural Water, Garou, Overgrown Rover...
Orochi even survived a serious attack
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technically psyrochi too
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I would say Saitama could've killed them all with a normal punch if he was serious about his statement that he's never met a monster that could survive a normal punch even after fighting Boros.
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I think Saitama's quote works but I'm surprised it gave Boros a solid High 6-A stat, At least 6-A (Based on him destroying his ship), possibly High 6-A (Based on Saitama's quote) could be a better way to list him
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Yeah, he's never unleashed a "serious punch" just an above 0 effort one.
Still, Armored Boros and Orochi fodderize Gery, so they are still within some ballpark range of eachother.
Unrelated note on MB Boros' speed, Murata said Boros kicked Saitama at the Sol, and then he caught up to him quickly while Saitama was still moving at the Sol. I don't see the problem with that kind of calculation.
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