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Assuming he used 100% to hit Cockroach in the first place.
But this is the series where Saitama can tell the speed difference between Arms Mode Genos and Sonic Fight Genos despite being able to lolblitz FTL characters, so…
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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But this is the series where Saitama can tell the speed difference between Arms Mode Genos and Sonic Fight Genos despite being able to lolblitz FTL characters, so…
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If Saitama can hold back to knock out common street thugs and not atomise them then I think Orochi could hold back too.
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I don't think the Orochi feat is valid, but I definitely think Orochi used more power and speed against Garou than AC.
He didn't even shapeshift against AC, and Garou was at least able to block his first form's blows when he was in an identical state to the form that killed AC.
He didn't even shapeshift against AC, and Garou was at least able to block his first form's blows when he was in an identical state to the form that killed AC.
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Maybe Garou after getting hammered by Ripper, Rover, Bug God and Gyoro is faster than we suspected.
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Is it confirmed he gets faster when he shapeshifts? I thought it was only to spit fire and have more limbs.
He blitzes Garou either way even after returning to his normal form.
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Orochi being lightspeed based solely off blitzting someone who may or may not have lightspeed spidey-sense is shaky.
But it’s less shaky when you remember Orochi is one of the only characters to dodge Saitama (before it was redrawn n.n), is stated to be in the same “dragon or above” tier as Boros (who’s lightspeed according to this site), was stated to fodderise Geryuganshoop (which is the same reason Boros is lightspeed, Orochi just gets an arbitrary headcanon to make sure he’s not lightspeed) and he is a “final boss” type of character of an arc, like Boros.
But it’s less shaky when you remember Orochi is one of the only characters to dodge Saitama (before it was redrawn n.n), is stated to be in the same “dragon or above” tier as Boros (who’s lightspeed according to this site), was stated to fodderise Geryuganshoop (which is the same reason Boros is lightspeed, Orochi just gets an arbitrary headcanon to make sure he’s not lightspeed) and he is a “final boss” type of character of an arc, like Boros.
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He was nearly too fast for Garou to dodge, so I think that is the case.
I'd still say he was putting in at least as much effort.
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It's all speculation.
Also, could you give your input in my Armored Boros CRT?
Not everything is in the OP, there are more arguments regarding the different materials of the ship and databook statements about the doors being particularly hard.
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I think the Orochi thing should be something more for the current rating, because it's weird to think that he's so inferior in speed to them, even though he's one of the strongest characters so far, plus this feat seems to be something straight for him.
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We’re waiting for SC to get bodied
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But your phrase is clear. You said "the strongest", not the "fastest". If the horn thing gets through, it will upgrade Tatsumaki and Psykorochi to FTL too.
I just don't have any issues with PS and Current Garou blitzing them.
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But even then they would still be inferior to them, but that wouldn't be as big of a difference as the current one, which would be more consistent.
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Tatsumaki and Psykorochi being FTL isn’t a downside. I’d expect some of the strongest and most broken entities in the entire series to also be pretty damn fast too.
Especially when one of them treats energy beams that can cross the earth in an instant as afterthoughts.
Especially when one of them treats energy beams that can cross the earth in an instant as afterthoughts.
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agreed
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I don't agree with that. FF is confirmed as the fastest hero of the S-class (apart from Blast), and he hasn't been cast if I'm not mistaken
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When was that confirmed?
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He said himself that he didn't know anyone faster than him until he met Saitama, Blast, Garou and PS. Besides Saitama consider him fast and didn't say anything about Tatsumaki
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“Source: himself”
Ah yes. Very reliable information.
Saitama didn’t say anything about Tatsumaki because Saitama has never seen Tatsumaki fight in the manga. You can’t bring up the webcomic because Saitama never called Flashy Flash fast in the webcomic, last time I checked. You can’t cross-scale like that.
If you WANT to, tho… just wanna point out Tatsumaki could lift a van out of the way of a Boulder deflected by Saitama before Saitama could sprint to the Boulder to save the same van. Sooo…
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At least there is evidence for FF, unlike your argument for Tatumaki that can basically be summed up for "Because I want"
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Evidence: She scales above relativistic characters and treats beams which can cross the planet as nothing. That’s better evidence than “ego-speedster said he’s the fastest so it MUST be true!”
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Agreed. There are no problems there. Boros is a top tier so having top tier speed isn’t an impossibility.
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No, no, they've got a point
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Scale up relativists? Who are you referring to? Moreover, it can easily be faster than a relativistic character without even reaching relativist+
"treats beams which can cross the planet as nothing", what time interval did this happen? Has it ever been calculated as FTL? I don't remember that.
What proof is she as fast or faster than these so-called FTL beams
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They psykos orochi beam. It was only calced at massively hypersonic, but they used an arbitrary time frame for some reason.
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Exactly, we don't have a time interval. To say she's FTL is an assumption.
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That "arbitrary time frame" is low-end human reaction time, and is based on how long it takes to transition between panels and how long it took for people to process what was occurring. I could give you a paragraph of reasons as to why that timeframe was chosen and used.
What other time frame are you proposing and why is it more appropriate for the scene?
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Tatsumaki is vastly stronger than Garou, Platinum Sperm and Flashy Flash all put together. Her speed comes from her power. It wouldn’t be impossible for her to also be in a similar speed range.
Psykorochi’s beams. They can cross the planet in an instant.
She’s as fast since she can dodge several before they cross the planet, and can also casually react to and stop one later on when she focuses.
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Even with a smaller time-frame, it was still Sub -relativistic I think.
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Being strong isn't being fast in this series. DS is much stronger than FF but FF is much faster than DS.
crossing the planet in an instant doesn't mean anything, it doesn't prove that something is FTL or close to it.
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No proof she's as fast, Boros is stronger than her and doesn't scale to ftl
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Stronger is not equal to faster. They are different things entirely. If Eddie Hall can lift 500 Kg doesn't mean he can outrun Usain Bolt. This is not a valid explanation.
Still sub-relativistic at best. I don't know what timeframe you're using but you're not getting close to Light Speed.
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There are because OPM's hierarchy isn't like Dragon Ball's. Power doesn't usually equate to Speed.
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