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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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its not even debatable so theres no disagreement to be made, thats like me saying half a pizza suffices when i ordered an entire pizza. pretty garbage analogy but its good enough to explain the predicament.
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If two calc group members don't think it is a good idea, then evidently there is some room for debate.
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yeah well calc members can be very wrong in there decision as well...and im saying this in the most respectable way.
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Not disputing that.
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Seeing you guys talking about the Awakened Cockroach thing, I remember that when Orochi "throws" his horns at Garou he has the same aura as Flashy, PS and Garou when they were at Rel+/FTL speeds
Apeironaxim
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stop
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should I?
Apeironaxim
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Yes, you're grasping. It's exactly like people trying to go through earlier chapters of OPM after the initial constellation thing. Suddenly now everyone with a seeming "trail" behind them was Relativistic or whatever.
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Cope
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His face reveal was pretty cool imo, a lot of people didn’t like the redraws but the octopus face is pretty cool.
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Same
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I don't remember any other
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And how do you know it doesn't? The panel is placed higher than the diameter of the spear, while the crater is lower.
In the calculations you have to use the value already accepted and used in other calculations, in this case you start from the height already calculated for the tower.
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Why can't KE be used in this case?
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Because the result of the KE needs to match the destruction shown.
It's why someone like Invincible got downgraded when his moon feat had 7-A KE, but the crater was like 8-B
It's why someone like Invincible got downgraded when his moon feat had 7-A KE, but the crater was like 8-B
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Yes, but this case is different, here the character is not crashing into the ground or destroying something with his lunge. He is soaring very high at great speed.
I don't care what result is accepted, but I want to know why exactly the KE is not chosen.
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Boros confirmed not lightspeed since he doesn’t leave a light trail like FF, AG and PS. /s
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I like all of Orochi’s designs. They’re just neat.
I like his redraw “true form” too, it reminds me of his Dino mode. He looks like some eldritch god which is fitting, he’s a true monster, not some big human made of worms.
I just wish he kept his pre-redraw feats. Both scenes could have happened, Murata!!
I like his redraw “true form” too, it reminds me of his Dino mode. He looks like some eldritch god which is fitting, he’s a true monster, not some big human made of worms.
I just wish he kept his pre-redraw feats. Both scenes could have happened, Murata!!
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It wasn’t accepted for…
Actually, I don’t think there was a real reason. It just wasn’t accepted. I guess “people could watch it” was one reason, but that makes no sense since none reacted to the speed of the actual beam crossing the planet, all they reacted to was the flash during the sustained beam (after it had already crossed the earth), and Tatsumaki can react to those.
If “outlier” is the reason, it doesn’t really stand as an outlier anymore since we now have true FTL feats with characters beneath Tatsumaki’s level.
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Orochi being FTL due to Blitzting AC’s senses WAS deemed an outlier, but the situation is different now that we have actual lightspeed feats.
There’s also the statement of Orochi literally FODDERISING Geryuganshoop, and that’s the same scaling Boros’ speed rating logic uses, but Orochi doesn’t scale due to the headcanon of “he just tanks the damage” which is very arbitrary and selective in Boros’ favour, but that statement coupled with him Blitzting AC makes it more consistent that he can be FTL.
And that’s not mentioning his pre-redraw feats of him dodging a normal attack from Saitama at point blank range, although that was sadly retconned in the redraw, although one could argue Redraw Orochi was just stunned and shocked and had less time to react from a more pissed off Saitama.
But I don’t care to make CRTs and I reckon it’d just get thrown out anyway. Someone else can try tho.
There’s also the statement of Orochi literally FODDERISING Geryuganshoop, and that’s the same scaling Boros’ speed rating logic uses, but Orochi doesn’t scale due to the headcanon of “he just tanks the damage” which is very arbitrary and selective in Boros’ favour, but that statement coupled with him Blitzting AC makes it more consistent that he can be FTL.
And that’s not mentioning his pre-redraw feats of him dodging a normal attack from Saitama at point blank range, although that was sadly retconned in the redraw, although one could argue Redraw Orochi was just stunned and shocked and had less time to react from a more pissed off Saitama.
But I don’t care to make CRTs and I reckon it’d just get thrown out anyway. Someone else can try tho.
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I don't think it was solely dismissed just for being an outlier. Awakened Cockroach's mobility being hampered by his lack of legs didn't help him either.
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Boros fought someone he watched (from a distance) tank a barrage of stones and then throw one back. Never once did he see Saitama casually outspeed the stones or even dodge one; after a bunch of smoke, he just had a stone in his hand and threw it back faster than Gery could react (who‘s statement only applies to his throwing speed, not his stats).
So it’s literally the same logic as Orochi NOT scaling, but since it’s Boros, he arbitrarily scales to the speed.
And Boros isn’t telepathic, he had no idea that he saw Gery as “a bad joke”.
”Boros scales because he saw someone tank the rocks and throw a rock back, never outspeed said rocks tho and never reacted to the rocks himself.”
”Orochi doesn’t scale because he was stated to fodderise, but that could simply mean he can tank the damage and doesn’t need to scale to speed.”
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But the argument isn’t about Orochi blitzting AC’s movement speed, but the fact he could stab AC before AC’s senses could kick in and even warn him of danger, which was stated to be capable of sensing even lightspeed attacks before they happened.
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According to the Murata quote, Saitama sees this move as a nothing, just a bad joke and casually threw a stone faster.
Boros isn't telepathic, but he's capable of noticing something that moves fast, which did include Saitama when he reacted to the rocks at FTL speeds.
Also, Boros is FTL due to the huge difference between the portrayal of Geryu's specific attack and Boros. At best, you'd get something like 'possibly at least Relativistic+' for Orochi since we can't even confirm if it's speed, and the other two Combatants aren’t scaled to Geryu’s rocks.
Also, even if AC could sense Orochi's killing intent, nothing indicates he didn't react at all to Orochi.
Boros isn't telepathic, but he's capable of noticing something that moves fast, which did include Saitama when he reacted to the rocks at FTL speeds.
Also, Boros is FTL due to the huge difference between the portrayal of Geryu's specific attack and Boros. At best, you'd get something like 'possibly at least Relativistic+' for Orochi since we can't even confirm if it's speed, and the other two Combatants aren’t scaled to Geryu’s rocks.
Also, even if AC could sense Orochi's killing intent, nothing indicates he didn't react at all to Orochi.
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It is not really a calculation
There is the argument because orochi catched AC who claims to be able to aim dodge lightspeed attacks with his body instinctive reaction
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I don't think MK reacted.
Orochi didn't even move a muscle against AC, while Garou actually blocked an attack and forced him to partially transform.
Orochi was holding back, but you could easily say the same for AC.
Orochi didn't even move a muscle against AC, while Garou actually blocked an attack and forced him to partially transform.
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He may have held back massively in power, but probably not speed.
It is just me but another translation I read implies the robot raised its arms to block.
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