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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Theendzero13
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Sub rela : 1% to 5%
Sub rela + : 5% to 10%
Relativistic : 10% to 50%
Relativistic + : 50% to 99,99999...%
Sub rela + : 5% to 10%
Relativistic : 10% to 50%
Relativistic + : 50% to 99,99999...%
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How many below-seconds (brain dead rn don’t know the correct term) would it take for an attack to cross the same distance Psykorochi’s beam did to be considered relativistic?
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Well, I kind of disagree with this wiki's speed scaling for OPM, but going off what the wiki has, he is not able to react to light naturally, but is able to sense it and move before hand, still meaning you would need to move at at least FTL speeds to hit him.
Think about Spider-Man, his reactions are relativistic and his movement speed is Massively Hypersonic or something like that.
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I'm dumb, I thought Rel started at 0.2 SoL
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And that's why I said Orochi could scale, because he blitzed AC.
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Yeah I agree.
I heard a argument that Orochi would just have to hide intent to hit AC, which he could do, but there's no evidence to back it up, and it seems lke just jumping through hoops to get the conclusion they wanted.
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Awakened Cockroach has never proven he can dodge a real lightspeed attack, regardless if it’s prediction or not. All we have is his own word, which isn’t very reliable, since he’s a monster.
Is there a statement by ONE or Murata that his word is solid enough to use?
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Yeah this is 100% true.
The thing is, that high tiers in this verse scale to relativistic anyways, (Gary, Flashy Flash [Who I think should have been FTL anyways]) and god tiers such as Boros and Saitama are FTL.
So if Orochi is anywhere near Gery he should be high relativistic.
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Orochi is stated to fodderise Geryuganshoop but apparently it means nothing. Despite Boros scaling to Geryuganshoop for being impressed by Saitama tanking and then throwing back a rock to kill Geryuganshoop.
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Tatsumaki should be relativistic for being comparable in speed to Psykorochi’s beams, which could easily have relativistic speed. But that’s just me I guess.
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Not just you, I think OPM speed is massively lowballed.
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That's not a good reasoning. Being a monster doesn't equate to being unreliable.
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It is an extremely recurring theme unless the monster is notably more reserved or humble.
EmilioRory10
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for baseline relativistic it'd be 0.0832 seconds (83.2 milliseconds)
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My speed scalling would have:
Saitama (FTL [Already calculated])
Boros (FTL (By scaling to Saitama's casual reactions which are just above 4c and far above Gery's hgh relativistic])
Flashy Flash (FTL [Using the really fast Ninjas high ball. Also, was barely able to avoid a casualy Saitama in a game of tag, who was around 4c as well])
Orochi (Sol to low FTL [Caught Awakened Cockroach, stomps Gery])
Tastsumaki (High Relativistic to Sol [Able to react to Psykos-Orochi's attacks])
Gery (High Relativistic [Word of God])
Genos (Relativistic [I know this one is insane, but I'm the idiot who thinks the Genos dodging Lasers calc should be valid])
Saitama (FTL [Already calculated])
Boros (FTL (By scaling to Saitama's casual reactions which are just above 4c and far above Gery's hgh relativistic])
Flashy Flash (FTL [Using the really fast Ninjas high ball. Also, was barely able to avoid a casualy Saitama in a game of tag, who was around 4c as well])
Orochi (Sol to low FTL [Caught Awakened Cockroach, stomps Gery])
Tastsumaki (High Relativistic to Sol [Able to react to Psykos-Orochi's attacks])
Gery (High Relativistic [Word of God])
Genos (Relativistic [I know this one is insane, but I'm the idiot who thinks the Genos dodging Lasers calc should be valid])
EmilioRory10
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Pretty sure that was Sub-Relativistic
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Pretty sure Psykorochi’s beam easily covered that distance in that time.
But I don’t care enough to put in the effort to change this site’s profiles. So.
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Examples?
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Might be misremembering, but didn’t someone want to upgrade Flashy above Geryuganshoop since Saitama saw him as kinda fast but saw Gery as a joke?
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To play devil's advocate, Personification of a Pull Light Cord hyped himself up but was one shot and only building level.
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There is already a justification on his profile
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Yeah, I also think he should be upgrades, as being 55% speed of light and blitzing two 15% sol enemies at the same time seems odd, but if he were 4c, it would make more sense.
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Monsters are too high on power when they don't know that there are stronger beings than them, Bakuzan as an example. AC perfectly knew where he standed in the food chain.
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Yes, I am legally insane, I she shoudl 100% scale above Orochi.
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Haragiri thought he could take out the entire Swordsman group, including Atomic Samurai.
Literally every entity bragging about their strength when facing Saitama.
That one random swordsman monster thinking he could fight Atomic Samurai.
Psykos and anything Tatsumaki related.
Fuhrer Ugly thinking Bang wasn’t anything special.
Geryuganshoop “greatest psychic in the universe” shtick. He’s technically not a monster tho.
Sky King and Co thinking they can attack the whole S class HQ and actually win.
Rhino Wrestler.
Bakuzan’s existence.
Choze’s existence.
Etc, etc.
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Again, I agree with you, but there is some kin of precedent for characters hyping themselves up. Usually though, it's in relation to their accumulative power rather than the effectivness of one of their abilities.
For example, Deep Sea king is the "Supreme Lifeform", (
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I doubt it took a full second for Psykorochi’s beams to cross that continent, so in my eyes they’d be relativistic at default, and Tatsumaki scales above or similar to them in speed.
But that’s just me, and I don’t care to make CRTs.
But that’s just me, and I don’t care to make CRTs.
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Haragiri just hadn't seen AS at full power.
He hadn't seen Tatsumaki.
They are ancient beings that don't even know what humanity is capable of.
They don't know Saitama's strength.
Well, he was the only one to survive his suppressed AS. Since he is above that attack it's natural he thinks he has a chance of victory.
Tatsumaki was suppressed.
Was fooled by his leader, who made him believe he could take on a S class hero.
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It could be under 1 second, but saying it was 0.08 is a big jump.
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Am I the only one that thinks using the length of Genos's Incenertor Canon in the Magna, and then the 1 frame it takes to extend in the Anime is kind of ridiculous? I mean what if the beam took less than 1 frame to move that distance, or if the scene is in some form of cinimatic time, or the beams are completly different lengths.
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So, do you realize that every monster that was hyping himself up was because they lacked knowledge on other powerful beings? That's why Gouketsu was so calm, because he knew he didn't have anything to do against Orochi. And humans are the same, Suiryu hypes himself up to the point of saying heroes are not needed, Gouketsu and Bang saw themselves as the pinacle of their race... Everyone was humbled after losing, despite being a monster or a human.
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0.008 secuns
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There’s still no proof Cockroach’s ability actually allows him to sense or dodge lightspeed attacks.
But if someone wants to make the justification that Orochi scales way above Geryuganshoop (stated to fodderise), and can blitz Cockroach (has lightspeed-sense-dodging, allegedly) thus making it consistent, and Tatsumaki easily scales way above Orochi for being able to stomp Psykorochi and even possibly going FTE to her, making Tatsumaki relativistic to FTL, that person can go ahead.
I ain’t doing anything tho. I’m lazy.
But if someone wants to make the justification that Orochi scales way above Geryuganshoop (stated to fodderise), and can blitz Cockroach (has lightspeed-sense-dodging, allegedly) thus making it consistent, and Tatsumaki easily scales way above Orochi for being able to stomp Psykorochi and even possibly going FTE to her, making Tatsumaki relativistic to FTL, that person can go ahead.
I ain’t doing anything tho. I’m lazy.
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Yeah, I think we could/should probably draft up a massive speed upgrade doc for a lot of OPM characters.
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Pre-redraw Orochi could dodge a ”normal punch” from Saitama and I’ll never forgive that for being deleted.
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