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Pretty sure Tatsumaki was falling to the Illusion, only after she remembered Blast's words of not expecting someone to help that she realized it wasn't him

I also disagree with Sage Centipede's Speed for now, as Garou doesn't seem to be using his top speed considering how it was showcased in caps 155 and 156 and when compared to it now, but that might change next chapter
For one, Blast literally says she "resisted it"

And for two, can you prove he wasn't using his top speed?
 
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For one, Blast literally says she "resisted it"

And for two, can you prove he wasn't using his top speed?
She resisted God's deal, yes, but the Illusion worked on her, she thought it was Blast until she rememered his message of not expecting help, then she noticed it wasn't actually him

"Resistance" would be natural protection against it, that doesn't happened

Garou isn't as serious as he is throughout the whole chapter, managed to hit Sage multiple times without it reacting, and characters like Metal Bat, who clearly isn't as fast as Garou (He casually dodged him in this chapter), can also react to Sage, so yes, I do believe Garou isn't going all out, nothing points him to be
 
We have a page where Bat outruns Garou by saving the helicopter, and the fact that SS did a series of brilliant attacks on Garou, who is not a character that intentionally accepts attacks.
 
We have a page where Bat outruns Garou by saving the helicopter, and the fact that SS did a series of brilliant attacks on Garou, who is not a character that intentionally accepts attacks.
What do you mean? Garou let SC hit him because moving meant that EOW would hit the helicopter
 
She resisted God's deal, yes, but the Illusion worked on her, she thought it was Blast until she rememered his message of not expecting help, then she noticed it wasn't actually him

You can still get a resistance to illusions through something like this since she was able to realize it was an illusion and break free as a result.

Garou isn't as serious as he is throughout the whole chapter, managed to hit Sage multiple times without it reacting, and characters like Metal Bat, who clearly isn't as fast as Garou (He casually dodged him in this chapter), can also react to Sage, so yes, I do believe Garou isn't going all out, nothing points him to be

Metal Bat never dodged Garou in this chapter. Metal Bat never reacted to Garou. Garou attacks Sage while he's off-guard. And there's no reason for Garou to not go all-out against a creature stronger than Platinum Sperm after he just got attacked pummeled by both SC and EOW.
 
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I don't think we should only consider Garou at top speed when he traces paths of light while fightning like previously, that aint happening all the time even going at top speed.
Yeah I don't think Murata is going to constantly showcase his speed. He already established how fast Garou is to the reader, so he doesn't need to draw all those lights anymore.
 
Why are people saying that Metal Bat reacted to Garou? He was still holding his bat up to block Garou, thinking that he was about to be kicked, when Garou had already passed him and landed a kick on SC. When he looked down in confusion, all he saw was Garou having landed dozens of attacks on SC.

Also yeah, contextually MB shouldn't be in Flashy Flash's ballpark.
 
You're trying to turn away the fact that the Bat is faster than the Flash because speed is the flash's specialty, but no one said anything when the durability and AP with the Flash's bare hands became greater than that of Darkshine, whose specialty is durability...


Garou blocked all PS attacks but missed SS attacks. We have no reason to believe that Garou did not dodge the blow for any other reason than that he did not have time
 
You can still get a resistance to illusions through something like this since she was able to realize it was an illusion and break free as a result.
Yes, because she knew it couldn't be Blast thanks to his own words to her, that's not a natural protection against Illusions
Metal Bat never dodged Garou in this chapter. Metal Bat probably has FTL reaction speed. Garou attacks Sage while he's off-guard. And there's no reason for Garou to not go all-out against a creature stronger than Platinum Sperm after he just got attacked pummeled by both SC and EOW.
I meant Garou* dodged Metal Bat multiple times

Sage was only off guard in Garou's first attack. Garou is already stronger than Platinum himself, a new enemy like Sage being also stronger then PS doesn't mean Garou must go all out, and again, if you compare how Garou, Flash and Platinum speeds are showcased and Garou's overall serious behavior in battle, you'll see that he isn't the same here, in both mindset and speed.

That obviously can change next chapter, so I would hold this part until we see something more solid, if it happens
 
You're trying to turn away the fact that the Bat is faster than the Flash because speed is the flash's specialty, but no one said anything when the durability and AP with the Flash's bare hands became greater than that of Darkshine, whose specialty is durability...
That's a completely baseless accusation
 
Am I the only one to have the impression that Garou floats rather long in front of Sage Centipede? They even have time to chat and Garou stays in the air all the time.
 
You're trying to turn away the fact that the Bat is faster than the Flash because speed is the flash's specialty, but no one said anything when the durability and AP with the Flash's bare hands became greater than that of Darkshine, whose specialty is durability...


Garou blocked all PS attacks but missed SS attacks. We have no reason to believe that Garou did not dodge the blow for any other reason than that he did not have time
Flashy fought them during one entire chapter and had feats. Metal Bat didn't. You're just overthinking scenes.
 
Yes, because she knew it couldn't be Blast thanks to his own words to her, that's not a natural protection against Illusions

And it doesn't have to be. She realized it was an illusion, and thus she was able to resist it.

I meant Garou* dodged Metal Bat multiple times. Sage was only off guard in Garou's first attack. Garou is already stronger than Platinum himself, a new enemy like Sage being also stronger then PS doesn't mean Garou must go all out, and again, if you compare how Garou, Flash and Platinum speeds are showcased and Garou's overall serious behavior in battle, you'll see that he isn't the same here, in both mindset and speed.

Your claim was that Garou isn't at full speed because Metal Bat "dodged" and "reacted" to him, which are things that never happened. Now you're changing it to actually fit what I was saying. Garou easily dodged Metal Bat, which isn't proof that he isn't at top speed.

The new enemy literally just survived multiple of his attacks, before proceeding to pummel him into the ground, causing him to spit out blood. Why would he not go all-out against it? And once again, Murata has no reason to have to showcase those lightshows like before, he already established Garou's speed, so we can assume that is the speed he'll be going at from now on, especially when facing stronger opponents than PS and FF.
 
You're trying to turn away the fact that the Bat is faster than the Flash because speed is the flash's specialty, but no one said anything when the durability and AP with the Flash's bare hands became greater than that of Darkshine, whose specialty is durability...


Garou blocked all PS attacks but missed SS attacks. We have no reason to believe that Garou did not dodge the blow for any other reason than that he did not have time
Actually, I still fully believe Darkshine to be more durable than Flashy, I'm only waiting to see what else he does this arc before I suggest we adjust his scaling.

In the meantime, Metal Bat is not faster than Flashy Flash.
 
Am I the only one to have the impression that Garou floats rather long in front of Sage Centipede? They even have time to chat and Garou stays in the air all the time.
Was gonna mention that, which he has the same ability as Saitama to stay up in the air for long amounts of times.
 
Y’all peep they’re making Garou out to be the bad guy🗿 the gag is gonna end soon once MB finishes SC with Garou and MB will be out for the rest of the arc, AM comes in an has his moment against Garou. Then Saitama v Garou happens🗿
 
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Garou blocked all PS attacks but missed SS attacks. We have no reason to believe that Garou did not dodge the blow for any other reason than that he did not have time

"If you dare move another inch [Garou], my compatriot will swat that fly down with it's ocean grand cannon."

If Garou dodged, or heck maybe even if he blocked Sage's attacks, Tareo would have died. The only reason SC was ever able to hit Garou was because Garou let him do so.
 
And it doesn't have to be. She realized it was an illusion, and thus she was able to resist it.
You are not getting my point, but I'll try another approach

If God used other person as illusion against her, what would happen ?

Her first reaction to Blast is literally "Blast...?"

Then he offers help to her

Then, she remembers Blast's words to her about not expecting help, and realized that it can't be him, asking who the hell that person was. God goes away then

If it was, say, King, how's Tatsumaki seeing through the illusion ? She doesn’t have something about King that shows that he wouldn't be helping her, that's because she escaping God was thanks to Blast's previous words, not actual Resistance
Your claim was that Garou isn't at full speed because Metal Bat "dodged" and "reacted" to him, which are things that never happened. Now you're changing it to actually fit what I was saying. Garou easily dodged Metal Bat, which isn't proof that he isn't at top speed.

The new enemy literally just survived multiple of his attacks, before proceeding to pummel him into the ground, causing him to spit out blood. Why would he not go all-out against it? And once again, Murata has no reason to have to showcase those lightshows like before, he already established Garou's speed, so we can assume that is the speed he'll be going at from now on, especially when facing stronger opponents than PS and FF.
My claim was

"Garou isn't as serious as he is throughout the whole chapter, managed to hit Sage multiple times without it reacting,

- and characters like Metal Bat, who clearly isn't as fast as Garou (He (Garou) casually dodged him in this chapter), can also react to Sage-

, so yes, I do believe Garou isn't going all out, nothing points him to be"

My point was that Metal Bat can react to Sage, the same Metal bat that isn't as fast as Garou in the chapter as showcased multiple times, which further shows that Sage isn't FTL

It wouldn't need to be the Lightshows, or the timer (Some of Flash's feat against the ninjas lack both but they have focus on speed), but something more serious coming from Garou, as I said, he is rather casual in the chapter, maybe because he is not going all out or thanks to his duo with Metal Bat Gag stuff, something that next chapter may clarify, or even the translations

That's why I think we should wait
 
I don't know why everyone ignores the fact that

1) While Garou was running towards the helicopter to save it from the SS, Bat reached the centipede earlier. In the helicopter is Tareo, whom Garou definitely wants to save. We have no reason to believe that he ran there at an imposing pace and chill. He does not even have time to finish, as the Bat enters the game.
2) Bat overtakes the antennae of the Centipede, covering a greater distance. Obviously, this tendril is faster than regular SS strikes. Moreover, Bat covered a greater distance in the asme time.

3) Bat reacts to Garou's serious attack, although it freezes for a second later. He does it literally before the impact. His speed and reaction must be at least FTL
 
Sage does not get the FTL scale.The Centipede guys are tanks,they dont need to be fast

AP also does not scale to Orochi,as neither his feats,neither portrayal puts him that high
 
Y’all peep there making Garou out to be the bad guy🗿 the gag is gonna end soon once MB finishes SC with Garou and MB will be out for the rest of the arc, AM comes in an has his moment against Garou. Then Saitama v Garou happens🗿
but webcomic garou had alot of chuni movement’s where he pretends to be evil and threaten to kill kids and other heroes and shit. I dont know how that will happen with this garou.
 
Will Bad get a new key? Or will we just update his stats?

You know, the Centipede showed speeds of high three digit Mach numbers, which could have changed the speed of the characters a lot.
 
I don't know why everyone ignores the fact that

1) While Garou was running towards the helicopter to save it from the SS, Bat reached the centipede earlier. In the helicopter is Tareo, whom Garou definitely wants to save. We have no reason to believe that he ran there at an imposing pace and chill. He does not even have time to finish, as the Bat enters the game.
2) Bat overtakes the antennae of the Centipede, covering a greater distance. Obviously, this tendril is faster than regular SS strikes. Moreover, Bat covered a greater distance in the asme time.

3) Bat reacts to Garou's serious attack, although it freezes for a second later. He does it literally before the impact. His speed and reaction must be at least FTL

1) We don't know how far MB was from the Centipede, so this can't be used, he might be a few meters away while Garou was a few kilometers away.

2) Garou was focused on the centipede's head and not stopping the antennae's attack.

3) no, he sees the attack, but is only shown with the stick raised after Garou has already touched the centipede
 
Will Bad get a new key? Or will we just update his stats?

You know, the Centipede showed speeds of high three digit Mach numbers, which could have changed the speed of the characters a lot.
I think it'll just be an update to his current stats, unless he plateaus at some kind of "full power," in which case he can get another key for that or something
 
Oh, one thing to note is the fact that Bad roared "Fired up!" before unleashing his Dragon Pummelin' on Sage Centipede (or whatever that thing is called), which seems to suggest that he was under the influence of Fighting Spirit. How he powered up is unknown — because in the manga, he grows through pain — but the Hero Encyclopedia claims that anger is also a trigger for his growth, so that might have played a factor into everything.
 
Just noticed the water jet moves quite the distance from its initial landing place which is beside the hole before it explodes ??
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Can we dropped the metal bat = garou speed topic for a moment? and just wait for the next chapter to came out? Currently there is no a clear and solid indication that he is as fast as Garou specially when he couldn't even touch a not serious garou or when he couldn't even react to subsonic speed of Garou.

We also have no way of knowing at the moment if he is using the same speed that he used to fight FF or PS on SC.
 
Had a questions, if EOW shot out his entire self with MHS speeds or whatever he is, what AP results would that get?
 
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