Arale Norimaki Vs Ghost Emperor Yama - Battle For First Placement of 4-C (Grace)

[TheGreatJedi13]

Yama's death hax seems to be either sight or aura based

it isn't. his death hax is both sight-based and Aura based is not either of the two

 

[Zaratthustra]

He is three thousand meters tall...he can likely see very well and by his size the entire park would hard to hide...not like at their tier 4km is much. Anything close to him will die thanks to his aura.

 

[Ss3micah]

it isn't. his death hax is both sight-based and Aura based is not either of the two

Alright point taken
But can he kill something with no life force and no soul?
All the death hax links I could find always linked back to something organic and alive
I know his corrosion is still in play btw

He is three thousand meters tall...he can likely see very well and by his size the entire park would hard to hide...not like at their tier 4km is much. Anything close to him will die thanks to his aura.

WELCOME TO THE PARTY

Alright you have made your point
But Invisibility still counters
Plus if she sees everything around him disappearing she will just override it

 

[Confluctor]

Question; how would corruption even effect her, considering it only affects biological people according to the scan on the file?

 

[Orange]

Also, what's the range of his aura? And since SBA, they are 4 km away. Also, wouldn't invading her mind or effecting it will cause the opponent to go insane and mad?
And when has his death effected Non living beings or IP type 2?

 

[Zaratthustra]

Did you guys forget what it was stated in beginning? "the user who created the profile is inactive so yeah, not likely to get someone who knows the verse."

You ask questions beyond what we know and I did say above that the system of the verse its manipulation of laws - his abilities come from laws. Its not just organic but the entire existence would be changed or so its seem from the profile.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Question; how would corruption even effect her, considering it only affects biological people according to the scan on the file?

It affects all things, physical or not - going by the scan on his techniques section it even affects energy.

 

[Orange]

What does his corruption exactly do?

 

[Confluctor]

WE should just yeet the file then

 

[Zaratthustra]

What does his corruption exactly do?

Devilize anything it touches. It says on the profile...

 

[Orange]

Devilize anything it touches. It says on the profile...

Seems like transmutation ish- if she get devilised, what's going to happen to her, will she get new powers, lose hers or something?
She probably could resist thanks to her IP type 2 which allows her To retain her abilities, though and senses even if she's transmuted into something else, but I doubt it could counter his corruption

 

[Ss3micah]

Devilize anything it touches. It says on the profile...

What stops Arale from just wishing him back into his seal?

Also if he is going to corrupt he then he will have to target her Programming Code and again she resists that

 

[Ss3micah]

Did you guys forget what it was stated in beginning? "the user who created the profile is inactive so yeah, not likely to get someone who knows the verse."

He should be yeeted from the list then cause any fight against him boils down to assumptions

 

[Ss3micah]

It affects all things, physical or not - going by the scan on his techniques section it even affects energy.

In many cases
Digital Code is more non-physical than energy
Hence why you need Data Manipulation

Lets not assume he can assume he can corrupt data and information cause he affected energy

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Digital code is not more nonphysical than pure energy. If her programming is inside her it will be affected.
digital code is not more nonphysical than energy at all

 

[Ss3micah]

Digital code is not more nonphysical than pure energy. If her programming is inside her it will be affected.
digital code is not more nonphysical than energy at all

So he can affect Data and not have Data Manipulation then?
Also she resists Data, Information and Hacking regardless so even if Corruption did somehow affect her data she can resist it

 

[Orange]

So his corruption causes the opponent to be devilised [I'll assume it means that it turns the opponent into a demon like creature] but she already Resists Transmutation [it changes one molecular structure and change ones thoughts] so I don't how useful corruption is, if he corrupts her she will still retain her thoughts and abilities, but will be devilised, but I'm not too sure about this.

 

[Ss3micah]

So his corruption causes the opponent to be devilised [I'll assume it means that it turns the opponent into a demon like creature] but she already Resists Transmutation [it changes one molecular structure and change ones thoughts] so I don't how useful corruption is, if he corrupts her she will still retain her thoughts and abilities, but will be devilised, but I'm not too sure about this.

Not to Mention she has restore gun so she can always restore herself
Also for crying out loud Arale has precognition

She will know what coming into contact with the Aura will do assuming the corruption SOMEHOW works

knowing that Arale can teleport away get some distance and then spam unresistable hax

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Going by Yama's AP justification, he should be 4-A, not 4-C.

 

[Ss3micah]

Going by Yama's AP justification, he should be 4-A, not 4-C.

Hey Oblivion
Anyways if what your saying is true then this a mismatch and Yama should be removed from 4-C list regardless

And anyways
It looks like arale hax stomps here

Death hax has no feats of affecting IP2 beings with no life force or soul to begin with
And even if it did Arale has precog and teleportation plus invisibility to avoid his sight and aura
Corruption doesnt work for the same reasons plus arale has multiple resistances protecting her code

And Arale has Toon Force abilities and Plot Hax that Yama cant counter

 

[ArmBill]

Give Arale the 1st spot FRA

 

[Orange]

Not to Mention she has restore gun so she can always restore herself
Also for crying out loud Arale has precognition

She will know what coming into contact with the Aura will do assuming the corruption SOMEHOW works

knowing that Arale can teleport away get some distance and then spam unresistable hax

If his aura covers more than 4K, then precognition doesn't work, at all, if it covers less, then she has multiple ways of winning.
His corruption would potentially not work thanks to her mind manipulation , biological manipulation, and transmutation resistance along with IP type 2, all of this allows her to retain her thoughts, conscious and abilities even if she's turned/transmuted into other life forms or structures. But his death and death is dangerous, and since they are passive, I doubt she can escape from it, altho other versions can do that.

 

[Ss3micah]

But his death and death is dangerous, and since they are passive, I doubt she can escape from it, altho other versions can do that.

Its nothing to worry about at all because all things regarding it only ever affects organic beings
Given that and his size and she precoging him, she can warp away to get some distance and then hax spam or just screw him over with SR punches

 

[Ss3micah]

Arale:

Yama:

Deceived
ArmBill has Voted for Arale

 

[Orange]

Its nothing to worry about at all because all things regarding it only ever affects organic beings
Given that and his size and she precoging him, she can warp away to get some distance and then hax spam or just screw him over with SR punches

But the other one said it effects even non living things-
But if it can't. What about his coroisment inducement? That's also passive and I don't think she has an answer for that.

 

[Ss3micah]

But the other one said it effects even non living things-

Multiple resistances that protects her code and information negs

What about his coroisment inducement? That's also passive and I don't think she has an answer for that.

Going by the profile corrosion is slow, happens overtime or at the very least is not instantaneous
Given that and arale only needs a thought, she can warp outta their immediately and to another planet if need be
Once she gains the distance she needs she has every advantage to win

 

[Orange]

Well then, if his corruption doesn't work, his coroisment is too slow, and his death doesn't have feats of killing IP2, robots or non living things, it won't work to her. Then what stops her from Plot manipulation his ass, toon force his ass, madness manipulation his ass [even tho it's limited] subjective reality manipulation his ass, reality warping his ass?

 

[Ss3micah]

Well then, if his corruption doesn't work, his coroisment is too slow, and his death doesn't have feats of killing IP2, robots or non living things, it won't work to her. Then what stops her from Plot manipulation his ass, toon force his ass, madness manipulation his ass [even tho it's limited] subjective reality manipulation his ass, reality warping his ass?

According to his list of resistances
Nothing

 

[Orange]

Well if it's not a stomp, I vote arale

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

So he can affect Data and not have Data Manipulation then?
Also she resists Data, Information and Hacking regardless so even if Corruption did somehow affect her data she can resist it

you can destroy data without data manipulation. or is blanketed into being affected if the Data is considered existing in some way as physical thing. If the corruption can affect IG Type 1 or 2. then yes it can also affect and corrupt data without data manipulation. this is like being able to affect or attack a concept without concept manipulation as long as you have enough AE NPI.

resisting manipulation of your data, information =/= resistance to it being corrupted.
the resistance she has it it being overwritten via hacking or data manipulation means
Corruption doesn't work like that.
Also she doesn't have information manip resistance so corruption is definitely working here. although I have no single idea what devilizing means.


Shouldn't we also discuss in the other thread about Profiles with no supporters for a long time now

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

I'll vote Arale, for now, FRA although my vote is influenced by my dislike to profiles without supporters. specially really old one

 

[Rikimarox2]

The fact that a DB character will actually get the first spot in the top 5 strongest characters is... Cursed.

I'll welcome it though.

Arale FRA.

 

[Ss3micah]

you can destroy data without data manipulation. or is blanketed into being affected if the Data is considered existing in some way as physical thing.

Robots, AI or other inorganic beings, that have no consciousness beyond what the physical functions of their bodies grants them. This type of character is typically immune to Soul Manipulation due to lacking a soul and is also unaffected by many common forms of Mind Manipulation, since they neither have an organic brain to be manipulated nor have a non-physical consciousness.

So how is Corruption with feats of only affecting Biological stuff affecting her exactly?

If the corruption can affect IG Type 1 or 2. then yes it can also affect and corrupt data without data manipulation

If it could then sure but again his corruption feats have not listed anybody or anything that's type 2. And before you mention elements or energy that's still registers as type 1 so no dice

.resisting manipulation of your data, information =/= resistance to it being corrupted.

1. You have yet to show a scan stating he can corrupt things like programming information. His corruption scans are purely biological and affecting element and energy =/= affecting data and information without proper scans to back it up. AGAIN characters have IP1 for being made of elements or energy. Arale has IP2, huge difference in what he can or cant affect is clear

2. Also if his corruption is attacking her programming information then why cant she resist it when she has resistance that specifically is meant to protect her programming information and why would his aura be able to warp and affect digital information?

the resistance she has it it being overwritten via hacking or data manipulation means
Corruption doesn't work like that.
Also she doesn't have information manip resistance so corruption is definitely working here. although I have no single idea what devilizing means.

Did you just say she does not have information resistance?
Please check the profile again

And also your stating his corruption to work in a way his scans dont reflect

Shouldn't we also discuss in the other thread about Profiles with no supporters for a long time now

I dont know lolol
I'm just here to debate cause it's fun

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Robots, AI or other inorganic beings, that have no consciousness beyond what the physical functions of their bodies grants them. This type of character is typically immune to Soul Manipulation due to lacking a soul and is also unaffected by many common forms of Mind Manipulation, since they neither have an organic brain to be manipulated nor have a non-physical consciousness.

So how is Corruption with feats of only affecting Biological stuff affecting her exactly?

don't cut off 2 sentences to goes with each other for implication like this it makes the entire argument contextless. you can clearly see I'm implying if the corruption works even on IG type 1 and 2.
and yama corruption is type 2 and not type 1 which can affect nonphysical beings and it will be corrupting her with his own powers

Did you just say she does not have information resistance?
Please check the profile again

Type 1. which is not fundamental information which would be useless against hax that affect fundamental aspects

1. You have yet to show a scan stating he can corrupt things like programming information. His corruption scans are purely biological and affecting element and energy =/= affecting data and information without proper scans to back it up. AGAIN characters have IP1 for being made of elements or energy. Arale has IP2, huge difference in what he can or cant affect is clear

2. Also if his corruption is attacking her programming information then why cant she resist it when she has resistance that specifically is meant to protect her programming information and why would his aura be able to warp and affect digital information?

Again Type 2 can affect nonphysical beings and works on changing the entire existence of someone via law manipulation. his corruption is nor a mere biological one. its changes someones entire existence whether they are inorganic or not. if arale do not resist law manipulation then it works

well base from the profile implication at least. I'm grasping at things the profile provide so I can't really argue much for this

 

[Ss3micah]

don't cut off 2 sentences to goes with each other for implication like this it makes the entire argument contextless. you can clearly see I'm implying if the corruption works even on IG type 1 and 2.
and yama corruption is type 2 and not type 1 which can affect nonphysical beings and it will be corrupting her with his own powers

IP2 does not state Non physical beings it said INORGANIC beings
There is a big different between being nonphysical and inorgainc

A Soul for instance is Non Physical but not inorganic because it has both a Soul and a Non Physical Consciousness and can be mind and soul hax
Abstract beings like IZ are made of pure will but still dont qualify for IP2

There is a difference between Non Physical and Inorganic and IP2 DOES NOT STATE Non Physical Beings because Non Physical beings can still have non physical consciousness and souls

Arale DOES NOT have a non physical consciousness to corrupt so what is he corrupting then?

Type 1. which is not fundamental information which would be useless against hax that affect fundamental aspects

Point Taken

Again Type 2 can affect nonphysical beings and works on changing the entire existence of someone via law manipulation. his corruption is nor a mere biological one. its changes someones entire existence whether they are inorganic or not. if arale do not resist law manipulation then it works

Again difference between non physical and inorganic
Another example of this is the true forms of Dialga and Palkia
In their true forms they are the very NON PHYSICAL abstract embodiment of Time and Space and neither has NP2 just because they are non physical
Again clear difference

Arale can also override corruption with Plot Hax by interrupting the plot (kind of like how YouTube ads stop your video) and forcing corruption to be negated

well base from the profile implication at least. I'm grasping at things the profile provide so I can't really argue much for this

...
Nah dont worry
Your doing just fine lolol

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Again difference between non physical and inorganic
Another example of this is the true forms of Dialga and Palkia
In their true forms they are the very NON PHYSICAL abstract embodiment of Time and Space and neither has NP2 just because they are non physical
Again clear difference

no. Entire at least existence encompasses all physical aspects of existence. if his corruption affects someone's entire existence and not just biological and such it would affect even inorganic because both organic and inorganic beings are under existence on themselves.
we might not be on the same wavelength on what we are talking about. but I'm talking about his corruption affect existence on itself and not just anything biological or has no mind.

 

[Ss3micah]

no. Entire at least existence encompasses all physical aspects of existence.

Type 2, they can devilize you, which would include the cultivator's entire existence to be effective

The corruption affects the CULTIVATOR'S entire existence not ALL OF EXISTENCE
Even the scan Corruption links to doesn't imply this at all

And Arale can still counter this with plot and causality hax to stop the plot of it happening

if his corruption affects someone's entire existence and not just biological and such it would affect even inorganic because both organic and inorganic beings are under existence on themselves.

You cant assume this when the scans dont point to this
Affecting someone's entire existence is good and all but you have to identify the STATE of their existence as well
The state of existence he is affecting is a NON PHYSICAL STATE
You cant just apply it to say he can Inorganic State as well and again he affects someones existence not ALL of existence
If he affected ALL OF EXISTENCE he would be WAY above Tier 4-C and have insane Universal Range both of which he lacks

He does not affect ALL OF EXISTENCE, he affects someone's existence and the corruption can only be applied to the state in which they are in which is a non physical state

we might not be on the same wavelength on what we are talking about. but I'm talking about his corruption affect existence on itself and not just anything biological or has no mind.

Scan saying he affected ALL OF EXISTENCE?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

nvm I stand correct on the cultivator's one. i tried to scour sources but I can't really find anything else.


well I already voted anyway

 

[Ss3micah]

nvm I stand correct on the cultivator's one. i tried to scour sources but I can't really find anything else.

OOF
Welp thanks for debating me
It was fun

well I already voted anyway

You did?
Where?
Also it seems your vote has yet to be counted

By the looks of things Arale is gonna Hax Mash

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

I'll vote Arale, for now, FRA although my vote is influenced by my dislike to profiles without supporters. specially really old one

Where?
Also it seems your vote has yet to be counted