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Arale Norimaki vs D - Battle For 4th Strongest 3-A
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I mean, Arales plot hax bypasses his resistances, so this is a stomp.
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D's resistance to plot hax is actually unconventional, in the same manner as how acausals have resistance to fate hax and the like, so layers, in this case, don't really matter
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Then its a Stomp for D. Akaishic records go brrrrr
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D doesn't always use that for combat iirc, or at least doesn't lead with that. He has aura which induces these on a 5D level, however. So D would use that regardless, or he would simply cut her down just as he did every time.
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Can you briefly explain how and the resistance is unconventional please?
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Can you highlight where on D's Profile is he resistant to Plot Hax?
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1. Thank You for that
2. Acausality (Types 2 and 4; Completely absent from the Akashic Records, which are a record of all time and space. His absence from the Records make him completely immune to it's effects.
Then I believe this would not be a problem for Arale then, as she regularly affects beings who themselves are absent from the Narrative and are immune to what it dictates.
2. Acausality (Types 2 and 4; Completely absent from the Akashic Records, which are a record of all time and space. His absence from the Records make him completely immune to it's effects.
Then I believe this would not be a problem for Arale then, as she regularly affects beings who themselves are absent from the Narrative and are immune to what it dictates.
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It's because him existing outside of the AR which governs and manipulate literally everything, and it has shown to govern the plot/story as well, which means D is initially already unbound by the narrative. Therefore layers don't matter if she can't affect someone outside of the plot.
Acausality
Now regarding this
So D originally is outside of the AR, but Valcua used the AR it actually did affect him (he was almost follow that fate) when he suddenly defied that predetermined event and rewrote the AR instead, this was done through his traditional adapt/RE which is heavily layered considering he has faced various opponents that possess both the same ability as well as resistance or negation to it, and later got bypassed by someone who has exactly all of his abilities but on a higher level, only to get all his stuff resisted by D later, again.
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D has a few passives (his aura), which is listed with "Passive Paralysis Inducement, Fear Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation (D has an Eldritch Aura that can strike fear into those around him. The fear that it strikes works on both humans and vampires. His aura can even induce Paralysis, or be used to calm people's emotions. Further more his looks are capable of attracting men and women alike, making others hallucinate they are being drawing into his eyes.)"
Not sure the Fear and Paralysis would work seeing as how Arale's A.I. is made outta Information and Code and not a conventional consciousness plus her Toon Force makes her pretty much unable to feel fear (Toon Force is Also 5-D btw)
Paralysis is a Good Hax though it easily be countered by 4th Wall Hax
Alright
But the problem now becomes fpr D, as Arale has affected characters who themselves are not bound by the narrative and are immune to its effects plus arale has 12 additional layers of potency untop of that. Thats a Significant Gap between what Arale can dish out and what D can take
Your RE point is Good though but that would mean he would have to Adapt up to like 11 more Layers before becoming completely resistant to Arale's Plot Hax. She could Incap him long enough before then as her 4th Wall Precog would show her D becoming more adaptive and plan around it. The next problem here is that Arale's plot hax is also adaptive and she can increase her layers to stay ahead of D. So even if D did caught up, both are just gonna be out adapting each other.
Not sure the Fear and Paralysis would work seeing as how Arale's A.I. is made outta Information and Code and not a conventional consciousness plus her Toon Force makes her pretty much unable to feel fear (Toon Force is Also 5-D btw)
Paralysis is a Good Hax though it easily be countered by 4th Wall Hax
1 Layer untop of Unconventional Resistance
Alright
But the problem now becomes fpr D, as Arale has affected characters who themselves are not bound by the narrative and are immune to its effects plus arale has 12 additional layers of potency untop of that. Thats a Significant Gap between what Arale can dish out and what D can take
Your RE point is Good though but that would mean he would have to Adapt up to like 11 more Layers before becoming completely resistant to Arale's Plot Hax. She could Incap him long enough before then as her 4th Wall Precog would show her D becoming more adaptive and plan around it. The next problem here is that Arale's plot hax is also adaptive and she can increase her layers to stay ahead of D. So even if D did caught up, both are just gonna be out adapting each other.
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D aura has affected AIs as well so arale IP type 2 won`t save her
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D's Gay aura can effect machines.
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She would have to use Toon Force and 4th Wall Hax to counter then
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Okay, so let me clear one thing up. Aside from the fact that D has some passives, which are mentioned by other members here, there is one more Passive that no one brought up. His Technology Manipulation. D's blue pendant passively shuts down any form of technology, no matter how sophisticated, futuristic, advanced, and complex it is, as long as D perceives it as a threat. Considering the fact that Arale is a Robot, she gets passively shut down too. As for her consciousness, Lefty absorbs her since Lefty has been shown to absorb life force, magic, physical beings and objects, metaphysical and abstracts like Death Miasma and Dreams, etc.
Now that this is out of the way, let's address the main points in this thread:
1) D's Aura and Fear hax works on almost anything and everyone robots, non-sentient beings, supercomputers, and so on. So Arale exactly cannot do anything if she's incapped here. This is assuming D's Tech Hax and Lefty's Absorption does not work at all in the first place.
2) 11 additional Layers won't help here against someone whose very existence allows him to consistently bypass and evolve to layers upon layers of haxes as soon as they hit him. Not that it matter's as Arale will be Incapped to do anything about it.
3) D can perfectly copy Arale's haxes and resistances via both his own hax and also via AR. So her Toon Force and 4th Wall Hax both get copied along with her entire Arsenal regardless is she uses them or not. In addition, he can also completely absorb all the powers of Arale just by touching her.
4) D permanently negs the ability to Evolve and Adapt even if it is layered and has evolved/adapted to the negation of RE and Adaption, via Miracle Bloodlight (As seen in Volume 17, against Gilzen, and also against the Sentient Darkness).
5) How is Arale going to "Incap" him if she's too scared and paralyzed to do anything to D. Not to mention that Arale has nothing going on for her to incap D since he will simply get hit by an Attack and Evolve/Adapt to it while also copying it or worse, completely absorb the powers from Arale.
As for how D can win, he can simply incap her via his aura+fear hax or tech+absorption hax, remove all her resistances and adaptation via Miracle bloodlight and then hax her, possess her, corrupt her, cut her down along with her consciousness, use Gilzen's power creating hax to simply create a power or ability to mess with Arale or even randomly gain resistances to her haxes just by willing it, etc.
Now that this is out of the way, let's address the main points in this thread:
1) D's Aura and Fear hax works on almost anything and everyone robots, non-sentient beings, supercomputers, and so on. So Arale exactly cannot do anything if she's incapped here. This is assuming D's Tech Hax and Lefty's Absorption does not work at all in the first place.
2) 11 additional Layers won't help here against someone whose very existence allows him to consistently bypass and evolve to layers upon layers of haxes as soon as they hit him. Not that it matter's as Arale will be Incapped to do anything about it.
3) D can perfectly copy Arale's haxes and resistances via both his own hax and also via AR. So her Toon Force and 4th Wall Hax both get copied along with her entire Arsenal regardless is she uses them or not. In addition, he can also completely absorb all the powers of Arale just by touching her.
4) D permanently negs the ability to Evolve and Adapt even if it is layered and has evolved/adapted to the negation of RE and Adaption, via Miracle Bloodlight (As seen in Volume 17, against Gilzen, and also against the Sentient Darkness).
5) How is Arale going to "Incap" him if she's too scared and paralyzed to do anything to D. Not to mention that Arale has nothing going on for her to incap D since he will simply get hit by an Attack and Evolve/Adapt to it while also copying it or worse, completely absorb the powers from Arale.
As for how D can win, he can simply incap her via his aura+fear hax or tech+absorption hax, remove all her resistances and adaptation via Miracle bloodlight and then hax her, possess her, corrupt her, cut her down along with her consciousness, use Gilzen's power creating hax to simply create a power or ability to mess with Arale or even randomly gain resistances to her haxes just by willing it, etc.
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How does this even counter all the hax that would take effect the moment the fight starts
This is really sus tbh. Like her hax mostly scales from ppl in her verse and isn't toribot is the one who supposed to be the author's manifestation/a kind of plot device? And you're saying basically everyone in Dr.Slump shares the ability to be unbound by the very author, who dictates the plot and governs the very narrative itself? What's even the point of having a supervisor-like character then, even if it did go that way that seems extremely parodistic and should only at best count as toon force, not literally singularities that straight up overcome the authority of the author himself.
And even in the worst scenario, D would just gradually evol and fully adapted to her hax eventually as nothing else are really capable of stopping him from doing that.
Precoginiton even if it's plot based or sth won't work on D for reasons above. Heavily doubt her RE can reach the level of D's. Here are several feats
D was faced with the Darkness, a non-corporeal machine of Darkness itself created by Alpulup Macula 5,000 years ago which repaired/evolved and adapted heavily. When D first faced it, he was able to affect it with his Earthly Beauty and Eldritch Aura and even slice it up. But it evolved, healed, and fought D instantly displaying that it gained resistances to D's abilities. Even D commented that he cannot kill it. However, during their second and final confrontation, D is able to not only induce fear within it, but also kill it indicating that D not only negated it's regeneration and instantly killed him, but he also negated it's resistances and reactive evolution.
When D initially fought Viscount Kraken, he was able to kill Kraken, a Noble who discarded his Noble body to become one with water. D was able to cut his Fount of Life which seemingly erased him and turned his watery body into regular water. However, when Kraken resurrected and came back again in his watery form for the second round, he was completely unharmed by Langlan's attack and by D's attack to his chest due to his evolved form. D was captured by him but once D went Full Vampire Mode and cut him easily, Kraken was defeated and his watery form dissolved indicating that D not only erased him for good by cutting his Fount of Life, but also negged his Immortality, Regen, Resurrection, Resistances and ability to evolve which is consistent with how D took down Toma and Gilzen in the previous novels. It is to be noted that Kraken was trained by the Sacred Ancestor and said that none could slay him except for those who come from the same bloodline as that of the Sacred Ancestor implying that D's mystic skills were able to kill him instead of any regular skills.
When Gilzen fought D, he was completely resistant to his passive haxes of empathic and fear manip as well as D's regen negging and death-inducing sword attacks. However, with the help of Budges, D was able to negate the resistances to death manip and regen negation of Gilzen and killed him by cutting off his head. However, when Gilzen came back again, he was able to evolve himself into something even more menacing and powerful than before but now developing resistances to D's resistance negation hax. However, D finally used his trump card aka Miracle Bloodlight which not only negated all the resistances and reactive abilities of Gilzen, but also his resurrection, immortality, and regeneration as well as Gilzen's newly developed resistance to resistance negation which allowed D to stab Gilzen in the heart and kill him. Furthermore, D's Miracle Bloodlight is also able to make Budges feel like his bodiless formless body was being torn apart despite the fact that Budges is an entity who has no body and form and visibility and is likely heavily non-existent due to not being able to get cut by D's sword attacks which can cut through anything including non-corporeals, souls, spirits, dreams, abstracts, nothingness, etc.
So reactive evol/adaption and stuff is pretty causal in VHD, D himself has fought numerous enemies who are supposed to have the RE that's enough to overcome haxes that bypasses layered resistances from him and eventually just got rid of all of that. And as mentioned above even the one who possessed literally the man's whole arsenal (with a lot more stuff) couldn't win him in the end. While Arale adapting is nice, admittedly, D is a whole another beast that has dealt with countless enemies with a level of RE equal if not superior to her before and none of them could prevent their abilities from being utterly negged.
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OKAY I'M AWAKE AND WILL RESPOND AS BEST AS POSSIBLE!!! 
I'd also like to thank Pain and RM97 for making this debate fun and interesting
My counter to this would be that SBA puts each combatant at 4KM distance away from each other so this passive will or wont work depending on if it can cover that range. Secondly, Item in Question would have to be a 5-D Item or else Arale's 5-D Toon Force as it causes nonsensical and illogical events occur (defying what is logical and sensical). Third, Arale's Supernatural Luck can cause Items to stop working so thats another way to counter D's Item.
So even if she did fell under his paralysis or fear hax, her 5-D toon force would just cause something illogical to happen that makes it not work anymore or makes her start working normally. I'll admit though that because Toon Force is random at times this has a 50/50 chance of happening
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Its a GAG MANGA. They themselves straight up claim that nothing in it is allowed to make sense. They straight up on the Gods that made them just because they can. Your expectations here is that a Gag Manga should follow the rules of serious standard anime/manga/novel hierarchy gods system which is where you are wrong. They function pretty much like looney tunes, animaniacs, Monica's Gang, old school Popoye, (hell Popoey resisted GOD turning of reality because SPINACH and Literally beat the #@%! outta his own Animator) but thats neither here nor there.
I suppose and I love how you said gradually instead of instantly jumping 11 layers.
So now my question to you is does this man D have any resistance to BFR and/or Sealing (I cant bother to search its TOO LONG)
If he doesn't the Arale could always send him outside the narrative and leave him there or collapse the narrative and move to the 5-D realm where she gains 5-D stats (dimensional scaling)
THIS IS INSANITY
So to be clear...
Are you saying his could somehow stop Arale's Hax from being adaptive and if so can you please clarify how one last time please???
I'd also like to thank Pain and RM97 for making this debate fun and interesting
Okay that was an EXCELLENT POINT YOU JUST MADE 10/10
My counter to this would be that SBA puts each combatant at 4KM distance away from each other so this passive will or wont work depending on if it can cover that range. Secondly, Item in Question would have to be a 5-D Item or else Arale's 5-D Toon Force as it causes nonsensical and illogical events occur (defying what is logical and sensical). Third, Arale's Supernatural Luck can cause Items to stop working so thats another way to counter D's Item.
I believe my counterpoint was that Arale's 5-D Toon Force would counter his Fear Hax as her Toon Force naturally controls her emotional state. (and I doubt D has affected Robots with 5-D Toon Force before) plus she does that resistance to Information Level Hacking and Data Manipulation so that could possibly counter D's Tech Hax. As for Lefty's absorption, not sure if he would need to do this before or after D deactivates arale, please let me know.
I mean sure but jumoing to 11 layers just like THAT? Based on the info about D's RE that Pain sent in the thread, it doesn't seem like it is something that happens instantly and instead happens overtime. So jumping up 11 Layers after one attack seems highly unlikely. I will admit that over time he could like do so though
Copying Toon Force and 4th Wall Hax would need feats of him actually doing so at least one time in canon as those to powers operate under specific requirements that D by his very nature isn't capable of. Same for Plot Hax, as an abstract power D would need feats of actually doing so before in canon or else I could simply argue that Arale can just use her own Power Mimicry and Subjective Reality to Mimic D's most haxiest Haxs and the Akashic Records or make up powers that specifically counter them.
Can his Adaptive and RE Negation directly affect Plot Hax? If so can you please explain how?
See above comments for Scared and Paralyzed. I'll admit though that if he adapted to all the hax in the Akashic Records then Arale would likely not be able to Incap him. The best she could do use her plot hax to keep D at bay then trigger trigger plot destruction, BFR or who knows just use Broadway Force and Social Influencing since he doesn't resist that
They work by nature of her being a Gag Character and unless D's Paralysis and Fear Hax stop her being a gag character then it will still work
So even if she did fell under his paralysis or fear hax, her 5-D toon force would just cause something illogical to happen that makes it not work anymore or makes her start working normally. I'll admit though that because Toon Force is random at times this has a 50/50 chance of happening
Its a GAG MANGA. They themselves straight up claim that nothing in it is allowed to make sense. They straight up
on the Gods that made them just because they can. Your expectations here is that a Gag Manga should follow the rules of serious standard anime/manga/novel hierarchy gods system which is where you are wrong. They function pretty much like looney tunes, animaniacs, Monica's Gang, old school Popoye, (hell Popoey resisted GOD turning of reality because SPINACH and Literally beat the #@%! outta his own Animator) but thats neither here nor there.Meh.....
I suppose and I love how you said gradually instead of instantly jumping 11 layers.
So now my question to you is does this man D have any resistance to BFR and/or Sealing (I cant bother to search its TOO LONG)
If he doesn't the Arale could always send him outside the narrative and leave him there or collapse the narrative and move to the 5-D realm where she gains 5-D stats (dimensional scaling)
Well if he exists outside the narrative then yeah it wont work. GG
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THIS IS INSANITY
So to be clear...
Are you saying his could somehow stop Arale's Hax from being adaptive and if so can you please clarify how one last time please???
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His Items can negate that from that far away iirc since Count Magnus's Castle had Satellite Cannons, and they wouldn't activate when D came to his Castle. It wouldn't need to be 5D since Arale's physical self is a 3D robot, and D's pendant can shut down 3D machines easily. The Toon Force, I will address it in the following point. As for her Supernatural Luck, it may or may not work because D himself is an Acausal. But let's assume that Arale's Supernatural Luck makes it not work, D will simply copy her Supernatural Luck and counter her own hax with his own hax and make it work.
5D Toon Force controlling her emotional state is pretty much a non-factor here since D's aura was able to affect Valcua, who was completely empowered by the Akashic Records to the point he became a god-like entity with complete omniscience of all of creation and has the power to do anything he wanted. Resistance to Information Level Hacking and Data Manipulation is also futile since random Noble techs are highly sophisticated to be protected from any form of tampering and hacking, and D's pendent shuts them down, while Lefty can hack into such techs in his Incorporeal form. Lefty just needs to enter Arale's system or come face to face with her consciousness to absorb it.
"Overtime" is pretty vague, considering his RE and Adaptation has shown to quickly adapt to the AR. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt, jumping 11 Layers will not take much time for him.
SBA invokes verse equalization for vs matches, where haxes like Toon Force and 4th Wall Breaking are not some exotic powers exclusive to one verse only and can be shared by another verse as long as they have similar nature. As such, D having specific feats of copying Toon Force and 4th Wall Breaking are not needed here, but what is needed is him having the ability to copy 5D haxes similar to both Toon Force and 4th Wall Breaking of Arale. D has already copied Valcua's ability to use the AR where the user simply reads the ether as a book and sees all of past, present, and future and can change whatever they want about all of reality itself. Also no, you cannot "simply argue that Arale can just use her own Power Mimicry and Subjective Reality to Mimic D's most haxiest Haxs and the Akashic Records or make up powers that specifically counter them." since not only would need direct statements of Arale creating powers out of nowhere, but also the fact D already has resistance to both on 5D levels that too on multiple layers.
Miracle Bloodlight specifically removes the ability of Adaption and RE along with Resistances to Adaptation and RE negation etc, as that's how he permanently put down Gilzen since Gilzen was able to adapt and evolve from D's attack despite D having the ability to completely negate RE and Adaptation of beings with his normal sword attack and used it to kill Gilzen initially. So he can simply negate Arale's ability to adapt (whether to Plot Hax or any hax) as well as her layered resistances so far, bringing them down to Zero.
Plot Destruction against someone with HGR, NEP2&3, Acausality?See above comments for Scared and Paralyzed. I'll admit though that if he adapted to all the hax in the Akashic Records then Arale would likely not be able to Incap him. The best she could do use her plot hax to keep D at bay then trigger trigger plot destruction, BFR or who knows just use Broadway Force and Social Influencing since he doesn't resist that
BFR against someone who escapes BFRs from 5D realms and even Realms of Pure Nonexistence where No Mathematical Construct can exist?
Social Influencing against someone who himself is a master at Social Influencing?
Broadway Force would initially work, but D's RE and Adaptation would just take over, and he will ofc copy it.
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Not a knowledgeable supporter of VHD tbh, I barely started into the novels, so I choose the safe option that is to assume he won't instantly jump through 10 more layers or so. Tho RM97's words should have a higher priority when taken into account as he is definitely the most knowledgeable person on the verse.
pretty much effortlessly, he has so many ways to counter these that it'd have to take an awfully long list. I'll show you some on his profile only.
Sealing
, Space-Time Manipulation, Matter Manipulation and Deconstruction (D broke out of a Sealed Dimension, causing chaos across the timeline, erasing various things from existence such as Jack the Ripper and an Alpha Class Black Hole. Moreover, breaking through dimension atomized the Mecha horse D rode but D was completely unfazed by all of these and even reached Fern's house where Lina was present through the Space-Time warp.)
Can you elaborate on this please
The Akashic record is the complete arsenal of whatever haxes in the verse being brought to a 5D level, which would all be applied to its usages, which includes plot hax, that's already several layers of RE (+negation) ahead Arale. In fact, Valcua's AR capable of haxxing D despite his physiology has clearly indicated that. D overcame, negated, and even rewrote the record itself as we knew. And this was done in arguably few moments (the scan above, from when the woman in question started thinking about her death till she ended her train of thoughts, D has already broke out of the manipulation of Valcua). Although like I said you might want to ask RM for further clarifications.
Also, during the event of Armageddon, he fell into an eternal stalemate with his father, who is intrinsically the same as him, implies that despite the ability to continuously adapt/evolve to each other's haxes they instead further increased their layers of resistances/negations and completely nullified others' chances to win. That's how a fight between ppl with those broken RE abilities occurred. Considering Arale's adaptive capability initially is nowhere near these two, I could fairly certain that D's RE(neg) outmatching that of Arale is out of the question.
A big YES, on a 5D conceptual level I'd like to add (via adapting against the AR). He had various feats of resisting power nullification early on and the fact that he resists the akashic record literally from the very first chapter so...
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I would like to point out D's EoS version that eternally stalemates SA is not in 3-A but Low 2-C, Likely Higher. So that version will not be applicable here.
I would also like to point out that D and SA will likely get stuff like TD2, BDE, NEP 2 (Types 2, 3, 4, 5) and 3, Aca 5, along with a general tier upgrade soon.
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'kay, I almost forgot to limit his tier 2 key, but thanks for the clarification
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Regardless, if D's pendant doesn't annihilate her mechanical functions, I do believe his Aura incapacitates her, and even further the Akashic Records are potentially more versatile.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but this should make the matchup a stomp right off the bat. It's range isn't stated on the profile but from the arguments above it apparently has a pretty long range, so...Arale just loses right off the bat?
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It should, but apparently, Arale's consciousness can survive incap of her physical self and said consciousness is capable of 4th Wall Hax, Plot Hax, Toon Force, etc.
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Fair then
Just saying: While Arale is 3-D, she can become 5-D via Dimensional Scaling
Also copying Luck?
Assuming he can do that.. DAMN....
Are you serious right now???
Actually no thats not right. You cant assume these complex and sophisticated machines would have resistance to Information Level Data Hax and Hacking just like that. Proof is needed. Many Robots and Androids on this wiki are super complex and sophisticated but that doesnt mean we hand them Information level Resistance to Data Hax and Hacking by default.
That would be a bad move for him as Arale has Information level madness hax that will target and destroy the minds of any individual who tries to interact with her code. ALSO I would like to point out that Arale still wouldn't be affected by consciousness absorption (probably) as her programmed mind naturally exists in a blank state, absent of thoughts and she can operate independently of her CPU mind.
I would like to point out in one of his RE feats he lost a fights, he never adapted instantly and it instead happen over a significant gap of time. So whether he adapts quickly or slowly is a 50/50 imo.
D was faced with the Darkness, a non-corporeal machine of Darkness itself created by Alpulup Macula 5,000 years ago which repaired/evolved and adapted heavily. When D first faced it, he was able to affect it with his Earthly Beauty and Eldritch Aura and even slice it up. But it evolved, healed, and fought D instantly displaying that it gained resistances to D's abilities. Even D commented that he cannot kill it. However, during their second and final confrontation, D is able to not only induce fear within it, but also kill it indicating that D not only negated it's regeneration and instantly killed him, but he also negated it's resistances and reactive evolution.
Does D's world share a Similar Nature?
Point 1. She does already have those statements and showings hence why its apart of her Subjective Reality. I just neevr resort to it because I thought it wasn't allowed
Point 2. She can Mimic 5-D plot hax so Mimicking any of D's more equivalent or lesser hax should not be an issue
Point 3. D has resistance to Power Mimicry? Is it 5-D cause if not then it gets copied
Point 4. If the Akashic Records themselves have no resistance to Power Mimicry the would be able to Mimic it (though this likely doesn't help because as you say D resists Akashic Records)
DAMN!!!!
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Yeah sure
I wonder what Adapting to Broadway force looks like
Hmm Okay
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If you live in a certain dimension, you get certain tier and abilities
Basically, she becomes physically 5-D by entering the 5-D World
Original she was gonna have a Low 1-C Flat Key but Dimensional Scaling was eventually decided upon
Point Taken!!!
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Sorry it took so long to respond I was out
Anyways, after considering everything I can say that Arale likely has no definitive way to kill/incap D
Even if she initially starts out with the layers necessary, D has Highly Godly Regen PLUS his RE so he can slowly catch up overtime
And with his Adaptive Negation, Arale wont gain any layers over him either and even if she did copy the Akashic Records that would do her little favours against D who can adapt past it
So now I have to ask how is D gonna definitively take down Arale?
She has numerous ways to return if destroyed/erased/removed so D is gonna have to Incap
Anyways, after considering everything I can say that Arale likely has no definitive way to kill/incap D
Even if she initially starts out with the layers necessary, D has Highly Godly Regen PLUS his RE so he can slowly catch up overtime
And with his Adaptive Negation, Arale wont gain any layers over him either and even if she did copy the Akashic Records that would do her little favours against D who can adapt past it
So now I have to ask how is D gonna definitively take down Arale?
She has numerous ways to return if destroyed/erased/removed so D is gonna have to Incap
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I'd say incon.
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That's kinda debatable. We aren't talking about just any complex techs, we are talking about Noble/Vampire technology from 10,000 years into the future, which consists of Androids with Pocket Reality consisting of tens of millions of stars inside their body, the technology to change a Vampire's/Noble's physical form into gas or illusion, MFTL++ spaceships, devices that control the entire weather of the planet, machines that can manufacture natural darkness which can cover the Universe overtime, coffins that have infinite sized dimensions with traps and other things insides, Mobius books and Blood Fountain, Supercomputers that can create and trap you in 4D Extradimensional spaces as well as the ability to feel emotions and so on. Mind you, Humans have already been at war with the Nobles/Vampires for 8000 years since they emerged back up from the underground and can also use their own futuristic technology and are capable of hacking using their own supercomputers gathered from the Capital (A place in VHD which is a Scientific Hub for Humans). Yet there has been no recorded case of Humans hacking into Noble/Vampire technology despite the continuous ongoing war between them for thousands of years. Which is why Noble/Vampire technology is used to guard the Nobles and their castles openly, and there is nothing the humans could do about it. So Occam's Razor suggests Noble Tech is capable of resisting hacking and data/information manipulation even at least on a basic level.
There was no "significant gap of time" here. It was moreso a few minutes after the first confrontation that the second/final confrontation happened since D confronts the darkness and slaughters it in the same chapter just a couple of pages later.
Considering AR is just that, an all-encompassing force that governs everything in creation, including complete nonexistence, and any capable Reader of AR can gain a view of all past, present, and future events in creation as if reading a story, and they can change and retcon events like D did at the end to retcon the entire novel's events to a happy ending.
Akashic Records copies any kind of powers from anyone and from any point in time. D already resists it since Valcua nor Matthew could copy him. He also has layered resistance to it, so it's layered in 5D. Trying to use the Akashic Records is also a very dangerous move since, unless you are a chosen person or related to the Sacred Ancestor, merely touching the AR will erase you completely from all of creation to the point you have never existed and no one remembers you at all (Since that's what happened to Kima despite Kima was amped up). AR also passively erases Space-Time if leaked into the Universe and it could have erased all of creation itself which, aside from the Multiverse, contains Quantum Realm of Dirac Sea, Metaphysical Realms, and even a NEP2 Realm.
Well, it'll probably start with D doing what Broadway force does to an opponent, aka start dancing and singing, but after a few minutes, D just stops.Yeah sure
I wonder what Adapting to Broadway force looks like
D can destroy non-existence, concepts & abstracts, metaphysical stuff, etc. So he can destroy Arale hard beyond coming back.
Death Touch Arale to induce a Death that bypasses all layers of Immortality and Resistances (Since that's what SA used in Armageddon to kill D but still failed)
Gay aura Arale into incap.
Trap Arale's Consciousness in a Dream inside a Dream inside a Dream inside a Dream, and so on in a recursive dream by using Sybil's ability.
He can bite Arale and turn her into her servant since with AR, D can copy Callus's Mutant Vampire ability to do that to Machines and Androids.
Use his Darkness to corrupt Arale for an incap.
Forcefully bring out and Absorb Arale's Consciousness and Willpower into his being for an incap.
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whattt, can we actually use this kind of scaling? If that's the case then there's the fact that D himself has entered and fought normally in the Akashic Record which is, of course, a 5D realm (at least for now). Idk man, really
I did what I can to help. For more information specializing in D, well you know who to go.
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Okay ummmmm...
Still NO. We dont hand out resistances based on assumptions and unproven facts. It doesnt matter how sophisticated these robots and machines are, none of them get resistance without proving so. Your logic (if accepted) would mean that every Super Sophisticated machine should be given the resistances by default without needing to prove so. There are SUPER SOPHISTICATED robots on this site that are Tier 1 and have lived over millions of years or as old as time or even older than time but dont have resistance because they never proved it.
A few minutes (assuming that's 3-5 mins at the very least) between each adaptation would give Arale around 30 mins to an hour before D adapts to all layers of her hax. This would give her plenty of time to work with (although I'm not sure what she would be able to do with it) and I still find it weird that D is gonna take hax 11 layers higher than his current resistance and by fine. Against guys who are just 1 or 2 layers Infront of him I don't see how thats a problem but someone over 10 layers higher is just weird say your gonna take that and be fine especially when the RE would make him adapt to each layer one at a time every few minutes. But Whatevs
That works I guess
Arale's Plot Manipulation allowed her to make herself the protagonist of smth she wasn't so making herself the chosen on is smth she could easily do allowing her to use the AR, but again not sure how much that helps her.
Arale's existence isn't based on Concepts its based on Plot and Narrative and btw that wouldnt stop her Immortal 8 and Acausal 3
Arale's Immortal 8 and Acausal 3 is blessings from a 5-D Being so unless you stop him you aint stopping her. Her immortality and acausality are etched into the 4th wall itself so unless you have layered 4th wall awareness you cant negate nor stop it from happening
Toon Force plus 5-D Luck could can counter 50/50
Arale can operate independent of her CPU consciousness so that does little to stop her
He would have to do this before Arale just goes beyond the 4th wall because after she does so unless you have Layered 4th Wall Awareness then your not getting to her. Also arale can retain her powers and sense of self even when trans mutated and she could easily under such transmutation with her OE or Hax. I should mention Arale has a causality hax that allows her to do things that would take long periods of time in an instant so the moment she gets transmutated she could undo it in an instant with her causality hax. Also she could use precog on herself to see that coming and spam teleportation or the wall hax to avoid him
Same as Above
Again Arale can operate independent of her CPU consciousness. Absorbing it does little to stop her. Willpower absorption gets stopped by the fact Willpower is something Arale lacks to begin with + Toon Force
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Only if its accepted in a ctr
And if the proper context shows that by travelling to these higher realm the character in question became completely comparable and equivalent to the other residents of the higher dimension
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