That is cool and all but how fast is the Fatehax's activation?
it's his nature as singularity even when he is dead he can use it. he was able to use it after he was erased from history by Cosmos Arbitration
So this comes down to Passive Fate hax vs Passive Plot hax...
The Captain is thought-based. on summoning and he always goes for summoning. in a battle to the death, he doesn't hold back and will willingly kill even his friends.
Ngl this is a Quite the Ironic Clash for a Matchup
I'm ready for this headache of a debate for these 2 walls of text profileNgl this is a Quite the Ironic Clash for a Matchup
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Guess the time has come to face the great jedi once again
Win, Lose or Draw,
Lets make this a Fun Debate
So does Arale
Arale's equivalent to resurrection would be that she can continuously respawn/will herself back into Existence with Plot Hax/4th Wall Hax if Erased/Removed from Reality, Existence and the Plot and while she doesnt have Supernatural Will she does have Supernatural Luck which could make things go her way, make things (like the Captain's weapons for example) cease functioning or avoid harm.
Arale has Plot Hax (4-D) which Captain doesn't resist plus Plot Hax so either way they gonna passive each other to Death
Bruhhhhh if its on his profile you dont have to link every single thing lolol
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Lets not compare one toon force character with another shall we? Other characters on the Wiki has toon force for fairly weak reasons and either characters toon force could be more powerful that the others
Arale's BFR and Powernull works in conjunction with her Plot Manipulation and she can easily used em at thought base or even passive levels since it only takes a thought for arale to change the story or she can passively overwrite another's story with her own simply by existing . That's something Captain has never encountered nor resisted before.
She can either negate summons by overwriting the moment they are summoned, erasing/removing them from the plot, gain control of them by using her social influencing or animal manipulation or just let her supernatural luck work its magic.
You should REALLY add these stuff to his profile. Its kinda wack to debate with stuff not on his profile as yet. Anyways yeah I can see him resisting Social Influencing but not his summons though. And the Captain could still be fear or madness haxed
He aint doing that to arale for reasons already explained
Okay so he resists Empathic Manipulation then. Good to know
Lots, his profile lacks resistances to loads of hax
Arale can come back due to plot/4th wall hax and she would already know what his fate hax can and would do due to 4th wall breaking precognition. At which point she can either erase or remove him from the plot (cause again no High Godly Regen) and if that wouldnt work then just Incap him by changing his design to that of poop
Ignoring plot hax for a second here
That's where Bahamut comes in with his reality-warping powers capable of removing 4D plane of existence and also 5D plane since to him they are merely paintings
That is true but she is only Acausal Type 1 and not type 2.
it will be added with Captain profile rework but so far a lot of better description and feats still falls on some of his listed abilities so there is no problem with accuracy and potency of haxBruhhhhh if its on his profile you dont have to link every single thing lolol
Just explanation and context will be enough
Oh wait it isn't...
Well then thanks for the Heads Up....
(You should really have someone add it there though)
This guy's toon force allows him to transcend even a 4D being although this doesn't mean he'll be 5D he transcended it in a way that is enough to one shot said 4D being despite having Primarch's power which governs and upholds the reality of Sky-realm's Multiverse before they ceded their role and it returned to the Six Dragons.
The Fate protection is on the level of Law manipulation. Laws in Granblue are above even Concepts. and said Conceptual abilities are capable of rewriting plot and history as shown with Llewig and Otherworldly River and Gachapin and Mukku who disappeared completely from granblue's story with Akasha's power as primal Beast and AE 1 of History and spacetime.
not empathic. Lucio wasn't using his powers. his form simply has that effect and he said he can change his forms to prevent it but it would be denial of his Creator's decision if letting him take that form
he doesn't need to because he can use causality manipulation on himself while dead or gone from history
Not when Bahamut is literally babying Captain and Bahamut's true self exist outside even a 5D structure so he won't be doing social influencing because the entities Captain summons are copies of the real one that the original lent them when they summon them
Primal Beast and Sky-God is no animal. Sky God also compels anyone to listen to him. and you cannot erase Bahamut from the Plot without range
Resisting Social influence can be done without directly resisting social influence but rather by simply having indomitable will which Captain Has
I mean they start 4km so it wouldn't but Fate hax plot armor would prevent any kinds of attempt that would be lethal to him
doesn't matter 5D fate hax prevents it from working against him and if they somehow works that would be problematic even for Arale because she will become a thing of past and disappear along with all her powers and existence. and since its 5D I doubt Arale will resist it or affect it with her own plot hax because it will not have range to affect said power
Fate hax protects him from being erased because he is necessary for the World's survival and not even people who has 4th wall awareness and breaking powers said they cannot do anything against higher being
Given that his summoning is that dangerous, Arale's passive Plot would prevent Captain him from summoning him then (since again 5-D Fate and 4-D Plot would effectivelt cancel out what each other would and wont do) or if he even tries arale can just interrupt the plot to prevent it from happening or end the plot altogether resulting in a draw.
That is True
Okay but Arale would already know because again 4th wall breaking precognition (which is essentially like reading a script to see and know what happens next). Arale have this Precog, she would already know what killing him would do to him so instead she would go for incap options instead like Plot Level BFR or other options
I would have preferred they be added first because it makes things easier in all honesty but oh well
Not seeing anything here that indicates rewriting the plot in all honesty. I can clearly see where changing history comes in but the plot itself? Im just not seeing it. If characters really do have plot rewriting capabilities as you claim then you should really wait for it to be added to someone before using it as an argument
He wont get the chance cause arale wont kill him and will just use Causality to override any action he could take against her
Okay so
I was taking about the Bahamut that Captain would summon to help him. He would definitely be in range. Even then the plot would counter his ability to summon and fate and plot would continually clash with each other in an endless loop
He can choose whatever outcome he wants but he wont reach em by doing nothing and the plot will actively work against any variable that could lead Captain's victory
Yeah they would start at 4km and Plot Hax would prevent anything arale wants not happening.
Even if arale cant do anything problematic to Captain, she can stop him from doing anything to her either and assuming she is erasure she plot manipulation can work even if she never existed to begin with so nothing stops her from just reinserting herself back into the plot or just making the narrator and animators draw her back into reality
Okay so she would know this (cause 4th wall precog) and then just go for Incon then
Alright Im really tempted to ask for this match to be pulled on hold now because its mildy irritating when people use abilities not on the profile. Can we put this match on hold until Captain gets all his stuff together?
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Im gonna request this be put on hold because debating against stuff not on his profile is sorta unfair in all honesty because their is no telling if what you use would be accepted or not but your treating them as valid argument
Dont Say bobobo is weak, his profile Is not updated
(btw why did he uses Bobobo from that game, it should be only in composite).
THIS BATTLE IS CURRENTLY ON PAUSE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!Dont Say bobobo is weak, his profile Is not updated
Also Arale should win due to plot haxs (better and stronger) and he doesnt resists.She also has better Acausality since she exists outside the plot,dont you think?
Oups i Time Travel too lateTHIS BATTLE IS CURRENTLY ON PAUSE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!
Bobobo or not. Iirc Auguste of the dead event showed captain and the cast being aware of Flags what would trigger death during a zombie scenario and yes they had fourth wall awareness feat there. And flags is marked purple/red in dialogue. Captain said majority of those flags that causes the plot to ensure the one who said such flag becomes a zombie... Captain wasn't affected at all and never once became a zombie despite saying the most dangerous flagDont Say bobobo is weak, his profile Is not updated
Also Arale should win due to plot haxs (better and stronger) and he doesnt resists.She also has better Acausality since she exists outside the plot,dont you think?
Could actually see this happening in DB. They prolly just need the right timing or theme for this match.
Arale is popular, but Bobobo i dont know. Not sure if they will use him very well.
I mean out of all popular character Bobobo is the closest to the wackiness for gag characters since they already did The mask vs Deadpool
The result was obvious, but I liked it a lot that animation and the spirit. It's just that even here few people know how to use Bo-bobo correctly. I have all his feats (well 60%~ there are passives and lots of powers he copied and I'm lazy) and the majority of the characters in his verse but I don't post them(sometimes i link to people interested) because I risk coming here every day to watch the fights lol.
You could have DMed me lolol
i mean they fight for 2nd place not 1 though
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