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Orochi fires a cannon and it stalemates a Serious Squirt.
Boros fires his ultimate one use trump card attack and it gets easily cut in half with a Serious Punch.

Probably nothin’, though.
A serious spit did not hit the Orochi, it only extinguished the beam.
The difference between spitting water and punching is COLOSSAL, should I explain it? Moreover, Orochi was torn apart by a blow without a name.
 
Boros saw with his own eyes how Saitama blitzes an octopus. And he wasn't surprised at all. Most likely, scaling goes through this.
Exactly this. And he was planning on fighting Saitama even in Armored form, which is much weaker than his Released self. Boros absolutely scales.
 
Orochi fires a cannon and it stalemates a Serious Squirt.
Boros fires his ultimate one use trump card attack and it gets easily cut in half with a Serious Punch.

Probably nothin’, though.
You're grossly overestimating the serious squirt.

He basically just threw a little bit of lava, and it parted the attack.
 
A serious spit did not hit the Orochi, it only extinguished the beam.
The difference between spitting water and punching is COLOSSAL, should I explain it? Moreover, Orochi was torn apart by a blow without a name.
Exactly. It only hit the beam, not Orochi, meaning Orochi STALEMATED A SERIOUS MOVE.

A serious move should at least be comparable to a normal punch. Orochi was torn apart after a serious attack he stalemated, yes, so Saitama would be using more power in that punch. That’s basic logic.
 
Exactly this. And he was planning on fighting Saitama even in Armored form, which is much weaker than his Released self. Boros absolutely scales.
Wait.
Orochi isn’t “possibly FTL” despite being stated to fodderise Geryuganshoop.

But Boros is, because he was willing to fight someone who fodderised Geryuganshoop?

That makes sense.
 
Tbh, Saitama stating an attack is serious doesn't equate to power. He already stated in his conversation with King that he can kill everyone with a normal punch, depsite having faced CSRC. The usage of serious attacks probably means he is pissed, angry or annoyed.
 
That's because the bullets are made of the same material. Something in the style of "Wolverine can be pierced by bullets from adamantium."
I can’t throw a ball of steel at a steel tank and break through the tank. You need to be strong enough to throw with enough force for the durability of the objects to matter.
 
I agree he should, but we don't treat attack speed the same as combat speed. We argued Orochi could tank Geryu's attacks and then blitz him in actual combat speed.
So Boros should be the exact same. He saw Saitama tank the rocks, then throw a rock back. Nowhere does Boros ever bring up speed, or say something like “you caught a lightspeed rock! Impressive!!”

Again, Boros is Boros, so Boros gets special treatment.
 
In his fight against Psykorochi, Genos still believed Saitama was stronger than him. The strongest attack he has seen from him is his Serious Punch against Post Molt Elder Centipede. It means that punch could have likely beaten Psykorochi as well. Interesting.
 
I can’t throw a ball of steel at a steel tank and break through the tank. You need to be strong enough to throw with enough force for the durability of the objects to matter.
This is not how it works in fictional works, and bullets of the same material can always penetrate the material.
 
So Boros should be the exact same. He saw Saitama tank the rocks, then throw a rock back. Nowhere does Boros ever bring up speed, or say something like “you caught a lightspeed rock! Impressive!!”
Why would he be confident in fighting someone he can't catch at all? Saitama blitzes a LS attack, but Boros thinkes he can fight him even in Armored form. It is not the same case at all.
 
In his fight against Psykorochi, Genos still believed Saitama was stronger than him. The strongest attack he has seen from him is his Serious Punch against Post Molt Elder Centipede. It means that punch could have likely beaten Psykorochi as well. Interesting.
Genos is Genos. “This attack can destroy an entire meteor!” Genos.
 
She still scales to a feat which is way higher than the ship's dura, so it doesn't matter.
The ship just has to scale higher than Tatsumaki's AP, because she wouldn't be able to knock it down.
The durability of the ship is equal to or higher than its forces, because of which it flies. Because Saitama was able to tilt the ship, but only make a small hole in it.
 
Genos is Genos. “This attack can destroy an entire meteor!” Genos.
That statement doesn't contradict anything. Tbh, he can not even measure the strength of his attacks, because he is comparable to beams he can't sense. He just knows they are stronger than the meteor, with an unquantifiable amount.
 
Why would he be confident in fighting someone he can't catch at all? Saitama blitzes a LS attack, but Boros thinkes he can fight him even in Armored form. It is not the same case at all.
“Saitama blitzes a LS attack”
No. He was hit by an attack he didn’t even dodge, and after the smoke cleared, is holding a rock. It’s unknown if he caught it or bent down during the smoke to grab one, and we don’t know if Boros saw that.

Boros being confident in fighting someone who tanked a LS attack = possibly ftl.
Orochi STATED to fodderise the being with a LS attack = massively hypersonic.

Uh-huh. Because Boros.
 
The ship just has to scale higher than Tatsumaki's AP, because she wouldn't be able to knock it down.
The durability of the ship is equal to or higher than its forces, because of which it flies. Because Saitama was able to tilt the ship, but only make a small hole in it.
Does this change the scaling at all? No one was able to bring it down except Saitama. And several characters damaged it. Even Geryu in the anime could.
 
Of course, yes. A bullet from Uru can kill Thor, bullets from adamantium can tear Wolverine's skull, and so on.
Tatsumaki damaged the ship with buildings so you’re just wrong anyway.

Show us ONE saying “Tatsumaki cannot bring down the ship at full power”. We’ll wait.
 
“Saitama blitzes a LS attack”
No. He was hit by an attack he didn’t even dodge, and after the smoke cleared, is holding a rock. It’s unknown if he caught it or bent down during the smoke to grab one, and we don’t know if Boros saw that.
Murata stated light speed attacks (referring to Geryuganshoop's) are nothing in Saitama's eyes.
Boros being confident in fighting someone who tanked a LS attack = possibly ftl.
Orochi STATED to fodderise the being with a LS attack = massively hypersonic.
I already elaborated on that, and both ways would absolutely make sense. Boros scales above Orochi either way, so it doesn't change much tbh.
 
It doesn't really make sense anyway. Even if Boros is not FTL, he is still tens+ times faster than Tatsumaki. Initially, the dispute was over this.
 
“Murata stated light speed attacks (referring to Geryuganshoop's) are nothing in Saitama's eyes.”

This is irrelevant. Boros doesn’t know how good Saitama’s reaction time is. All Boros saw was Saitama tanking an attack without dodging, then throwing a rock back.
 
I'm confused as well. Did Tatsumaki really damage the ship with concrete? The same ship that has Continent level durability.

Did she enhance their toughness with telekinesis?
 
“Murata stated light speed attacks (referring to Geryuganshoop's) are nothing in Saitama's eyes.”

This is irrelevant. Boros doesn’t know how good Saitama’s reaction time is. All Boros saw was Saitama tanking an attack without dodging, then throwing a rock back.
He still caught said rock, and there is a calc that puts Saitama's speed several times above the SoL by the sole movement of catching it. Boros knows this.
 
In fact, everything is quite simple.

ONE said that Boros' agents, even if they were guided, could not defeat Orochi. I thinf its because he was too strong physically and too durable.

These attacks just won't pierce his body, he doesn't need to react.

In Boros's case, he saw how Saitama was able not only to withstand the stones, but also to react to them. Nor was he surprised or afraid that Saitama would simply win because of his speed. Moreover, Saitama was a little surprised by the speed of Boros' dash, in the same arch he was not surprised by the speed of the stones.

In the case of Flash, he could assess his speed as good for a HUMAN, yet he saw only strong monsters, and because of training he saw quite a few strong people.
 
Do you really believe that being stronger physically - his strength on the rise is SO much less? Obviously, he would have been able to overcome telekinesis in the plot. In a good way, his physical strength should be raised to the level of Tatsumaki. How can someone whose blows have the power to destroy a small planet - can't even lift a thing with a mass like a hill?

Let me give you an example: Do you know at least one character who can destroy a city with a blow, but if you put a truck on it— he will not be able to lift it? Considering that his strike force is purely his physical strength, without unnecessary magical enhancements, like the iron fist from Marvel.

The difference between the force of impact and lifting is always not colossal, except for some exceptions, such as speedsters (Boros is proportionally strong, his physical strength is huge not because of speed), those whose strength increases from other influences, and so on. People like Saitama can always throw the moon if his impact force is at the level of the planet.
That's why I specifically said if we go by ratings of the wiki. I know that his lifting strength should be much more than that
 
I don't see any holes in the ship after throwing buildings. The ship's workers were just panicking in vain, and the ship was absolutely fine.
She did damage it. There are several scans in which the attacks have pierced through it. Besides, why would the crew memebers be concerned at all if there was no damage?
 
I'm confused as well. Did Tatsumaki really damage the ship with concrete? The same ship that has Continent level durability.

Did she enhance their toughness with telekinesis?
In fact, she could just throw them at a tremendous speed or something.
 
In the case of Flash, he could assess his speed as good for a HUMAN, yet he saw only strong monsters, and because of training he saw quite a few strong people.
I agree with everything you've said, but there is no indication Saitama separates monsters and humans when complimenting them. He talks objectively and that's it. I think FF should be above Geryuganshoop.

And Orochi could be both ways tbh.
 
She did damage it. There are several scans in which the attacks have pierced through it. Besides, why would the crew memebers be concerned at all if there was no damage?
Yes. After dozens of years, the ship began to shake from the impacts, I would have been scared, because no one previously could do anything to the ship. But how was I to know that there were holes in the ship? I would not see them.

And all because they were not. I'm just a dumb alien who panics over trifles.
 
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Yes, the ship absolutely does not care.
 
The ship is so insanely large that buildings are the size of pin-pricks to it. Of course the damage is hard to see.
 
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