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The key word is “easily”, he never said “she cannot take his ship down”.
You find fault with ONE's words as it suits you. It didn't mean something in the style of "She wouldn't do it easily, but she would do it with difficulty." Her radius and so she is really allowed to take off a ship of tens of kilometers in size.
So she just didn't have enough strength.
 
Boros: “possibly FTL (Saitama viewed Boros as an impressive foe while he treated the likes of Geryuganshoop as a joke)”

Meanwhile, Saitama calls Flashy Flash “fast” yet doesn’t get “possibly FTL” because only Boros is allowed to have these statements actually matter. Because he’s Boros.
Boros saw with his own eyes how Saitama blitzes an octopus. And he wasn't surprised at all. Most likely, scaling goes through this.
 
You find fault with ONE's words as it suits you. It didn't mean something in the style of "She wouldn't do it easily, but she would do it with difficulty." Her radius and so she is really allowed to take off a ship of tens of kilometers in size.
So she just didn't have enough strength.
Bruh. I’m just reading what ONE said.

He said she cannot take it down easily, not that “she cannot take it down NO MATTER WHAT”.

Considering her new feats, she has more than enough strength to easily bring the ship down. Hell, a single Psykorochi beam would one shot, and she’s stronger than those.
 
Boros saw with his own eyes how Saitama blitzes an octopus. And he wasn't surprised at all. Most likely, scaling goes through this.
Ok. And Saitama called Flashy Flash fast, while he treated Geryuganshoop as a joke, therefore Flashy Flash should be “possibly FTL” if not “likely FTL”.
 
It absolutely does. He was way way faster than Psykorochi's beam when he protected Tatsumaki. Psykorochi should be faster than Orochi, who should be faster than the cadres, some of them being faster than the Genos we saw in the latest chapters.
Which of them is faster than Genos? Black Sperm is significantly slower than Genos, he was beaten because of their number.
 
Bruh. I’m just reading what ONE said.

He said she cannot take it down easily, not that “she cannot take it down NO MATTER WHAT”.

Considering her new feats, she has more than enough strength to easily bring the ship down. Hell, a single Psykorochi beam would one shot, and she’s stronger than those.
Um, no, wouldn't. As ONE said, even Tatsumaki wouldn't be able to do it).
 
Orochi fires a cannon and it stalemates a Serious Squirt.
Boros fires his ultimate one use trump card attack and it gets easily cut in half with a Serious Punch.

Probably nothin’, though.
 
Saitama called Flashy Flash fast, yet never called Geryuganshoop or Boros fast. So Flashy Flash should be faster than Boros by this logic, but he’s not, because apparently being called “strong” is a catch-all term and other statements mean nothing when Boros is involved.
Saitama was surprised by Boros and caught by his punch. Meanwhile, despite being totally casual and not engaged in a fight, he effortlessly dodged Flashy Flash's move. So yes, in a way that implies MB Boros is faster than FF.

Released Boros is faster than Geryuganshoop because he called him strong and respected him while he treated Geryu as a joke. He should also be faster than Orochi, who should be faster than Geryuganshoop (according to Murata's statement), although we don't accept that as a fact.

But yes, I agree Flash should be given a possibly FTL scaling above Geryuganshoop.
 
According to the site at least, I don't know how it is like that. I just told you what it said.

At least he canceled it with a "serious" move though. So we should show some respect.
Seriously SPITTING at an enemy doesn't seem like a sign of respect. More like a sign of irritation. He thought Orochi was a teenager.
 
Damaging the ship is not the same as bringing it down. Tatsumaki scales to it because she can make holes through it. Not that it matters much because she already scales to a feat above the ship's durabilty.
 
Orochi fires a cannon and it stalemates a Serious Squirt.
Boros fires his ultimate one use trump card attack and it gets easily cut in half with a Serious Punch.

Probably nothin’, though.
A serious spit did not hit the Orochi, it only extinguished the beam.
The difference between spitting water and punching is COLOSSAL, should I explain it? Moreover, Orochi was torn apart by a blow without a name.
 
Boros saw with his own eyes how Saitama blitzes an octopus. And he wasn't surprised at all. Most likely, scaling goes through this.
Exactly this. And he was planning on fighting Saitama even in Armored form, which is much weaker than his Released self. Boros absolutely scales.
 
A serious spit did not hit the Orochi, it only extinguished the beam.
The difference between spitting water and punching is COLOSSAL, should I explain it? Moreover, Orochi was torn apart by a blow without a name.
Exactly. It only hit the beam, not Orochi, meaning Orochi STALEMATED A SERIOUS MOVE.

A serious move should at least be comparable to a normal punch. Orochi was torn apart after a serious attack he stalemated, yes, so Saitama would be using more power in that punch. That’s basic logic.
 
Exactly this. And he was planning on fighting Saitama even in Armored form, which is much weaker than his Released self. Boros absolutely scales.
Wait.
Orochi isn’t “possibly FTL” despite being stated to fodderise Geryuganshoop.

But Boros is, because he was willing to fight someone who fodderised Geryuganshoop?

That makes sense.
 
Tbh, Saitama stating an attack is serious doesn't equate to power. He already stated in his conversation with King that he can kill everyone with a normal punch, depsite having faced CSRC. The usage of serious attacks probably means he is pissed, angry or annoyed.
 
That's because the bullets are made of the same material. Something in the style of "Wolverine can be pierced by bullets from adamantium."
I can’t throw a ball of steel at a steel tank and break through the tank. You need to be strong enough to throw with enough force for the durability of the objects to matter.
 
I agree he should, but we don't treat attack speed the same as combat speed. We argued Orochi could tank Geryu's attacks and then blitz him in actual combat speed.
So Boros should be the exact same. He saw Saitama tank the rocks, then throw a rock back. Nowhere does Boros ever bring up speed, or say something like “you caught a lightspeed rock! Impressive!!”

Again, Boros is Boros, so Boros gets special treatment.
 
In his fight against Psykorochi, Genos still believed Saitama was stronger than him. The strongest attack he has seen from him is his Serious Punch against Post Molt Elder Centipede. It means that punch could have likely beaten Psykorochi as well. Interesting.
 
I can’t throw a ball of steel at a steel tank and break through the tank. You need to be strong enough to throw with enough force for the durability of the objects to matter.
This is not how it works in fictional works, and bullets of the same material can always penetrate the material.
 
So Boros should be the exact same. He saw Saitama tank the rocks, then throw a rock back. Nowhere does Boros ever bring up speed, or say something like “you caught a lightspeed rock! Impressive!!”
Why would he be confident in fighting someone he can't catch at all? Saitama blitzes a LS attack, but Boros thinkes he can fight him even in Armored form. It is not the same case at all.
 
In his fight against Psykorochi, Genos still believed Saitama was stronger than him. The strongest attack he has seen from him is his Serious Punch against Post Molt Elder Centipede. It means that punch could have likely beaten Psykorochi as well. Interesting.
Genos is Genos. “This attack can destroy an entire meteor!” Genos.
 
She still scales to a feat which is way higher than the ship's dura, so it doesn't matter.
The ship just has to scale higher than Tatsumaki's AP, because she wouldn't be able to knock it down.
The durability of the ship is equal to or higher than its forces, because of which it flies. Because Saitama was able to tilt the ship, but only make a small hole in it.
 
Genos is Genos. “This attack can destroy an entire meteor!” Genos.
That statement doesn't contradict anything. Tbh, he can not even measure the strength of his attacks, because he is comparable to beams he can't sense. He just knows they are stronger than the meteor, with an unquantifiable amount.
 
Why would he be confident in fighting someone he can't catch at all? Saitama blitzes a LS attack, but Boros thinkes he can fight him even in Armored form. It is not the same case at all.
“Saitama blitzes a LS attack”
No. He was hit by an attack he didn’t even dodge, and after the smoke cleared, is holding a rock. It’s unknown if he caught it or bent down during the smoke to grab one, and we don’t know if Boros saw that.

Boros being confident in fighting someone who tanked a LS attack = possibly ftl.
Orochi STATED to fodderise the being with a LS attack = massively hypersonic.

Uh-huh. Because Boros.
 
The ship just has to scale higher than Tatsumaki's AP, because she wouldn't be able to knock it down.
The durability of the ship is equal to or higher than its forces, because of which it flies. Because Saitama was able to tilt the ship, but only make a small hole in it.
Does this change the scaling at all? No one was able to bring it down except Saitama. And several characters damaged it. Even Geryu in the anime could.
 
Of course, yes. A bullet from Uru can kill Thor, bullets from adamantium can tear Wolverine's skull, and so on.
Tatsumaki damaged the ship with buildings so you’re just wrong anyway.

Show us ONE saying “Tatsumaki cannot bring down the ship at full power”. We’ll wait.
 
“Saitama blitzes a LS attack”
No. He was hit by an attack he didn’t even dodge, and after the smoke cleared, is holding a rock. It’s unknown if he caught it or bent down during the smoke to grab one, and we don’t know if Boros saw that.
Murata stated light speed attacks (referring to Geryuganshoop's) are nothing in Saitama's eyes.
Boros being confident in fighting someone who tanked a LS attack = possibly ftl.
Orochi STATED to fodderise the being with a LS attack = massively hypersonic.
I already elaborated on that, and both ways would absolutely make sense. Boros scales above Orochi either way, so it doesn't change much tbh.
 
It doesn't really make sense anyway. Even if Boros is not FTL, he is still tens+ times faster than Tatsumaki. Initially, the dispute was over this.
 
“Murata stated light speed attacks (referring to Geryuganshoop's) are nothing in Saitama's eyes.”

This is irrelevant. Boros doesn’t know how good Saitama’s reaction time is. All Boros saw was Saitama tanking an attack without dodging, then throwing a rock back.
 
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