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So what's the exact value of mass you used for the wall throwing or whatever is being calculated, and can you show your steps on how you derived that?
 
Can someone remind me the reason we don't scale the Spider-Mens to High 8-C+?
1. Screws with the Iron Man scaling even without taking Loki into account

2. Andrew Garfield never took full-powered blasts from Electro in mid-air (He only took casual lightning blasts which are at the bare minimum 8-C via scaling to natural lightning), only time he did was when he was on the ground which would have nerfed the electricity's value by safely dissipating the energy, and once Electro got juiced up even more, Andrew could only stop him via the overload, overload exceeded 2 seconds of usage which reached close to 8-B+ but just below it, which effectively "killed" Electro (I think, since NWH Electro said he was gonna die).

3. High 8-C weaponry effectively screws over peeps like Giant Sandman pre-NWH, and Tobey Spidey couldn't do jackshit to him.
 
Yeah don't know what the hell is going on with the first calc. Better specify your steps for determine the mass and explain what KE are you calculating.

The second calc could work, there's multiple versions of that calc (the current one we use says High 8-C) that would have to be compared, but don't think it would scale directly to anyone anyway?
Missiles don't scale to anybody, they're just a way to gauge what the Goblins can output with their greater weaponry
 
1. Screws with the Iron Man scaling even without taking Loki into account

2. Andrew Garfield never took full-powered blasts from Electro in mid-air (He only took casual lightning blasts which are at the bare minimum 8-C via scaling to natural lightning), only time he did was when he was on the ground which would have nerfed the electricity's value by safely dissipating the energy, and once Electro got juiced up even more, Andrew could only stop him via the overload, overload exceeded 2 seconds of usage which reached close to 8-B+ but just below it, which effectively "killed" Electro (I think, since NWH Electro said he was gonna die).

3. High 8-C weaponry effectively screws over peeps like Giant Sandman pre-NWH, and Tobey Spidey couldn't do jackshit to him.
What's the Iron Man scaling?
 
What's the Iron Man scaling?
10 gigawatts bare minimum via the guidebook statement for Iron Man's Mark 6 triangular badassium Arc Reactor.

Even without Loki he still has the Sokovia Feat under his belt which frankly can't be ignored, it's already a low-ball as is due to the weight used for Tony being too low.
 
So what's the exact value of mass you used for the wall throwing or whatever is being calculated, and can you show your steps on how you derived that?
From the statement implying it was pulling in everything in the city that wasn't "nailed down" pretty much. And we directly see it pull down things as big as vehicles.
By adding the weight up of everything that was being pulled that was further away in the same direction. nothing to do with the sun lol
 
You still gotta take into account that it was gonna rip apart half of New York too, which would lead to some crazy-inflated results.
Yeah, that didn't happen yet, obviously. But the calc used that to support how powerful it had already gotten. The stronger statement for the impending danger it would cause should make it easier to accept how powerful this part is
 
As much as I would not like Peter Tobey to get an 8-B, but the calculated weight of the gravity well contradicts what happens in the film. To begin with, we were not shown how the force affects objects located outside the city. To be honest, I don't remember it affecting anything other than the building.
Secondly, I'm not sure if it's worth summing up the entire weight of the sun's gravity and giving that weight to the wall at all. With a weight of millions of tons, the support of the building would simply not stand up and fall into the water.
Moreover, MJ and Otto were close to this impact, which should have been torn apart by such a force, which we don't actually see.
Well, in conclusion, even if we use the weight of this "well", then KE does not make sense, since a wall devoid of support collapsed on Peter, and not the entire weight of the city at a speed of 7 meters per second. The only thing we can do is calculate the PE.
 
Okay, thanks for correcting me.

However, using the entire weight of the city still does not make sense, because we have no reason to add up the weight of all objects that have been subjected to gravity and impose this on the weight of the wall.
Moreover, the force of attraction is shown extremely unevenly and Otto and MJ, who are still close to the epicenter, are still not affected.
 
Moreover, the force of attraction is shown extremely unevenly and Otto and MJ, who are still close to the epicenter, are still not affected.
That just means Class G MJ my dude 🌚
 
Well, it makes sense. MJ was able to stay on the track and physically withstand the moment of the outburst of the gravitational energy of the "Sun", while the same outbursts tore and bent metal structures and buildings.
 
And MJ is scaled up to Aunt May, who is able to withstand a fall from a large building, which was stopped by Spider-Man at the last second, although the momentum itself has not gone anywhere. This already makes her cooler than Gwen from TASM. Moreover, Aunt May deals damage and outruns Otto's stealth attack, which corresponds to MHS+ Peter.
It's coincides with Peter saying he had to beat an old lady with a stick which signifies the older women in New York City in the raimi verse are formidable foes to Spider-Man with him needing weapons to combat them
 
class G lifting strength + Low 7-B + MHS aunt may and Mary Jane?

wtf based
Lol indeed but it's very accurate when looking at the feats we've gotten don't forget Aunt May was unharmed by the debris when gobby blew up her room, though she was shocked by his actions and was taken to the hospital
 
Okay but wait lol I went back and actually looked at the scene and funny enough she literally only was just terrified of Green Goblin even the doctor's were telling Peter she was going to be fine💀💀
 
Lol indeed but it's very accurate when looking at the feats we've gotten don't forget Aunt May was unharmed by the debris when gobby blew up her room, though she was shocked by his actions and was taken to the hospital
I hate to say this, but I'm starting to agree with this logic and im definitely not liking it

but hey, at least i can say that aunt may (Low 7-B) solos HST
 
So, everyone scales to Green Goblin, except that Green Goblin was supposed to be a superhuman due the science shit that he made

peak scaling

Green Goblin (Superhuman) = Normal Human = Green Goblin (not really Super?)
Nah, he’d just be wall level in terms of dura (maybe AP if possible). If we go by your logic, Tony would be 7-A himself for surviving a hit from the hulk
 
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