Class M Raimi Spider-Man

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Main Calcs​

Recalc of the best spider-man catching a tramway feat

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Sam Raimi Spider-Man: New Goblin tears a wall

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Both of these calcs were accepted at Class M. This should scale to the Raimi Trilogy characters, TASM film series characters (except Rhino) and a lot of MCU characters (Super Soldier-tiers, Asgardians, Frost Giants, etc.)

Supporting Calcs​

• Captain America rips apart a wooden log (Class K)
• Spider-Man rips out a chunk of concrete (Class K)

Supporting Feats (not yet calculated)​

• Lizard tears apart a metal wall
• Spider-Man pulls electrical tower cables
• Doctor Octopus rips open bank vaults
• Doctor Octopus pulls apart giant clock pieces

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright from a glance.

 

[Excellence616]

I agree

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yeah, this makes sense to me.

 

[Dalesean027]

Seems fine

 

[Chariot190]

I agree ain't it ****** up though that every LS feat has nothing to do with lifting

Doctor Octopus pulls apart giant clock pieces

Oh I did that on my own time like a year ago, it's like Class 100 to low Class K. There's some hollowness though so it's closer to Class 100.

 

[KLOL506]

Hopefully if this is accepted finally we can confirm MCU Spidey to be weaker in the LS side than Raimi Spidey, as God intended.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Didn't Ock overpower Spidey with his tentacles? I don't think his feats should scale to him
I agree wit the upgrade tho

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Hopefully if this is accepted finally we can confirm MCU Spidey to be weaker in the LS side than Raimi Spidey, as God intended.

Oh, MCU Spider-Man doesn't scale to Raimi Spidey? I was under the impression that they scale to each other

Didn't Ock overpower Spidey with his tentacles? I don't think his feats should scale to him

True. Though apparently the clock pieces feat is weaker, anyway

 

[Lonkitt]

I agree with the upgrade. I believe this would scale to TASM Spidey and MCU Spidey as well, as the OP intended

I wouldn’t add Ock’s supporting calcs to any of the Spidey’s pages though. Ock easily overpowers the Spider-Men, remember

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Ock easily overpowers the Spider-Men, remember

Yup, thanks for your input

 

[KLOL506]

Oh, MCU Spider-Man doesn't scale to Raimi Spidey? I was under the impression that they scale to each other

AP and dura wise, yeah, but LS wise, Tobey overpowered a bloodlusted Tom.

 

[KLOL506]

Didn't Ock overpower Spidey with his tentacles? I don't think his feats should scale to him

Yeah, Ock's tentacles on their lonesome can easily overpower Spider-Man.

 

[Qawsedf234]

and a lot of MCU characters (Super Soldier-tiers, Asgardians, Frost Giants, etc.)

I'm iffy on scaling Super Soldiers to Spider-Man. Peter casually overpowered WS and Captain America's edge was mostly due to skill rather than being physically even. Upgrading his peak strength to Class M (rather than Class K) rather than upgrading literally everyone to Class M makes more sense to me.

 

[Lonkitt]

I'm iffy on scaling Super Soldiers to Spider-Man. Peter casually overpowered WS and Captain America's edge was mostly due to skill rather than being physically even. Upgrading his peak strength to Class M (rather than Class K) rather than upgrading literally everyone to Class M makes more sense to me.

I think Super Soldiers not scaling to this is fine

 

[Dalesean027]

As do I

 

[Chariot190]

In the train feat, Spidey's webbing rips out massive chunks of wall in his attempt to stop it. Someone should calc that tbh, likely quite a bit better than Harry's feat.
a bit odd that said train feat is allegedly only like Class 50 and was done with extreme effort over time to the point it knocked him out and yet it's ripping out chunks of building but shrug

 

[ShakeResounding]

Class M Raimi

This is... I think there are tears in my eyes...

I agree with this.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Hopefully if this is accepted finally we can confirm MCU Spidey to be weaker in the LS side than Raimi Spidey, as God intended.

Toby McGuire is GOAT when it comes to Spiderman.

Also, Chariot does raise a good point of the train feat.

 

[Jason_Courne]

Speaking of the train feat, I saw this calculation
Which got Spider-Man's stopping force to Class M by calculating Toby crumpling part of the train

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I'm iffy on scaling Super Soldiers to Spider-Man. Peter casually overpowered WS and Captain America's edge was mostly due to skill rather than being physically even. Upgrading his peak strength to Class M (rather than Class K) rather than upgrading literally everyone to Class M makes more sense to me.

Super Soldier would still be upgraded to Class K, so it's alright. MCU Peter would be "Class K, Class M at peak"

Would Asgardians and Loki/Frost Giants still scale to MCU Peter's peak since the latter are far stronger than any human?

 

[KLOL506]

Super Soldier would still be upgraded to Class K, so it's alright. MCU Peter would be "Class K, Class M at peak"

I remember previously that log splitters only achieved the Class 10 range stuff with this so this calc was rejected.

 

[Lonkitt]

Toby McGuire is GOAT when it comes to Spiderman.

Also, Chariot does raise a good point of the train feat.

IT SPELLED TOBEY MAGUIRE

 

[Qawsedf234]

We've been through this before

You mean the thread where KLOL said it doesn't work like that?

 

[KLOL506]

You mean the thread where KLOL said it doesn't work like that?

Not just me, you also said a bunch of other things there.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Not just me, you also said a bunch of other things there.

I did, but you're a calc group member and your word carries a lot more authority in that area.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

You mean the thread where KLOL said it doesn't work like that?

Not just me, you also said a bunch of other things there.

Eh, whatever, Class M Spidey is still cool

Also:

Would Asgardians and Loki/Frost Giants still scale to MCU Peter's peak since the latter are far stronger than any human?

 

[Lonkitt]

Also:

My only issue there is that Peter wasn’t bitten by the spider yet (“yet” referring to the Avengers Era)

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Tobey supremacy Agree with the proposals.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Also

It can only he used if the statement came after Spider-Man was a thing.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

It can only he used if the statement came after Spider-Man was a thing.

It's from the Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary, which was published in 2018 (after Homecoming and Infinity War)

 

[Lonkitt]

It's from the Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary, which was published in 2018 (after Homecoming and Infinity War)

Oh, for real? In that case, I actually could get behind Loki scaling

 

[Dinobot1996]

It will need evaluation, but it seems there is now a calc for Lizard's wall feat. That said, it also seems to be a lowball, as it assumes comic Lizard's height of 2.03 meters. It looks like both Rhys Ifans and Jerome Chen (of the VFX crew) described the Lizard as being 9 feet tall (2.743 meters) in The Amazing Spider-Man, so that seems like it'd be more accurate to use (and would also suggest that Lizard should get Type 0 Large Size)

 

[Jason_Courne]

It will need evaluation, but it seems there is now a calc for Lizard's wall feat. That said, it also seems to be a lowball, as it assumes comic Lizard's height of 2.03 meters. It looks like both Rhys Ifans and Jerome Chen (of the VFX crew) described the Lizard as being 9 feet tall (2.743 meters) in The Amazing Spider-Man, so that seems like it'd be more accurate to use (and would also suggest that Lizard should get Type 0 Large Size)

Yeah I just added that height to the calculation

 

[Dinobot1996]

It looks like the Lizard feat has now been evaluated by Migue79.

Though it can't really scale to anyone else, there is also a new calc for Doc Ock's vault tearing feat. If it's accurate and gets evaluated, he'll have his own value to scale to that's considerably higher into Class M.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

It will need evaluation, but it seems there is now a calc for Lizard's wall feat. That said, it also seems to be a lowball, as it assumes comic Lizard's height of 2.03 meters. It looks like both Rhys Ifans and Jerome Chen (of the VFX crew) described the Lizard as being 9 feet tall (2.743 meters) in The Amazing Spider-Man, so that seems like it'd be more accurate to use (and would also suggest that Lizard should get Type 0 Large Size)

It looks like the Lizard feat has now been evaluated by Migue79.

Though it can't really scale to anyone else, there is also a new calc for Doc Ock's vault tearing feat. If it's accurate and gets evaluated, he'll have his own value to scale to that's considerably higher into Class M.

Since these calcs were accepted, I'll apply the changes. This can be closed