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[LordTracer]

Exactly, just "possibly", it's not even a "likely". That's what I'm saying

That doesn’t imply Gouketsu is stronger though, we’re literally saying that he’s possibly weaker.

The likely and possibly ratings do not automatically denote inferiority.

 

[Therefir]

"Garou is particularly weak to sharp objects."
Where does this weakness even comes from?

 

[Worthless]

Atomic instantly dissect an orb Murata likely meant to be comparable to the 6-C one, and then proceed to struggle to cut GS. With a little evidence and a little comparison it should be enough for a new rating

True

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

That doesn’t imply Gouketsu is stronger though, we’re literally saying that he’s possibly weaker.

I always imagine "possible" as a 25% chance and "likely" as 75%.

 

[LordTracer]

I always imagine "possible" as a 25% chance and "likely" as 75%.

Here’s how the Attack Potency describes possibly ratings:

Should be used to list a statistic for a character with some basis, but inconclusive due to the justification being vague or non-definitive. The probability of the justification in question for being reliable should be notable, but mild.

 

[ByAsura]

"Garou is particularly weak to sharp objects."
Where does this weakness even comes from?

I think it came from a thread where we argued about Garou being weak to sharp objects, but that's not a specific weakness we were planning to add and it applies to all forms of Garou.

I'll just remove it.

Edit: Actually, it's even older.

 

[LordTracer]

I feel like it’s less of a Garou thing and more of a piercing damage in fiction™ thing

 

[ByAsura]

I can't find any CRT for it.

I'll remove it soon if anyone can't find anything.

 

[Worthless]

Anyway this might sound weird but can Atomic have 7-A or 6-C durability rating with Sun blade?

 

[Therefir]

Anyway this might sound weird but can Atomic have 7-A or 6-C durability rating with Sun blade?

I guess he can use the blade to block attacks on that level.

 

[Worthless]

I guess he can use the blade to block attacks on that level.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.

Like flashy flash blocking an attack that is comparable to his AP using his sword.

 

[Ourosboros]

Atomic's best defense is his blade- but if he gets speedblitzed or hit from an angle where he can't have his blade at that point in time, he has to tank the attack with his own body. Since the blade isn't a passive defense, it doesn't count as proper durability

 

[Ourosboros]

I'd say it's different from Homeless because Homeless can in theory form a cocoon of orbs around himself while still attacking, Atomic's blade can only be in one place at once if he's going up against fast enough enemies

 

[Worthless]

I know and what I'm asking is if he can still have that rating with sun blade?

 

[Ourosboros]

I know and what I'm asking is if he can still have that rating with sun blade?

I support simply scaling his AP with the sun blade to Homeless's orb. Because even if the orb was a little smaller, or the sizes of both vary, Atomic was able to cut up an orb no problem- and given the size of his slashes he could likely cut his way through a much larger orb with similar effort.

 

[Quangotjokes]

I'd say it's different from Homeless because Homeless can in theory form a cocoon of orbs around himself while still attacking, Atomic's blade can only be in one place at once if he's going up against fast enough enemies

That isn't theory, he's done it

 

[Worthless]

I support simply scaling his AP with the sun blade to Homeless's orb. Because even if the orb was a little smaller, or the sizes of both vary, Atomic was able to cut up an orb no problem- and given the size of his slashes he could likely cut his way through a much larger orb with similar effort.

But sum ppl will still disagree with this like you said it's clear as day that murata meant to say that they're comparable

 

[ByAsura]

It took dozens of slashes to actually make the orb explode.

Cutting through one doesn't mean he's comparable. They're just energy that explodes on impact.

I'm putting the speed and number of slashes in a blogpost.

 

[Worthless]

It took dozens of slashes to actually make the orb explode.

Does that mean anything?

Cutting through one doesn't mean he's comparable. They're just energy that explodes on impact.

Nevertheless the intention is clear as day it's so weird to say HE is still superior even after seeing that

 

[Epiccheev]

Using no. of slashes to upgrade speed: stonks
Using no. of slashes to downgrade AP: not stonks

 

[ByAsura]

Does that mean anything?

Yes. It means he took dozens upon dozens of slashes to overpower an attack.

Nevertheless the intention is clear as day it's so weird to say HE is still superior even after seeing that

'The intention is clear' here is just another way of saying 'my opinion is better than your opinion.'

After seeing him take dozens upon dozens of slashes to overpower 1 attack? Yeah, he was forced on the defensive, but HE is also a human and seemingly much slower than AS here.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Isn't the Goketsu's statement about other monsters is an anime only thing? The manga only has him mention one superior, Orochi, to my knowledge.

 

[Worthless]

Yes. It means he took dozens upon dozens of slashes to overpower an attack.

That's not how it looks like it looks like he's just trying to completely nullify it by slashing every part of shit of it

I mean how can he even nullify it with just one slash ? he ain't asta.

'The intention is clear' here is just another way of saying 'my opinion is better than your opinion.'

Is it not? The intention i mean?

After seeing him take dozens upon dozens of slashes to overpower 1 attack? Yeah, he was forced on the defensive, but HE is also a human and seemingly much slower than AS here.

Like i said above ^

But yaah yeah you win. Weird as hell tbh saying HE is still superior even after that

I mean yeah it's not it fairly obvious that ONE or murata meant to say he's comparable or maybe even higher considering he slashes it causally... But yeah like i said you win YOU made a point.

 

[ByAsura]

That's not how it looks like it looks like he's just trying to completely nullify it by slashing every part of shit of it

I mean how can he even nullify it with just one slash ? he ain't asta.

It exploded. He didn't nullify it completely. And even if he did, why would he fully scale for nullifying it with dozens upon dozens of blows?

Is it not? The intention i mean?

I mean just saying 'oh it's their intention' is a meaningless statement without something like actual confirmation from the author. You're not pulling from the author, your pulling from your own interpretation of events in the manga.

I mean yeah it's not it fairly obvious that ONE or murata meant to say he's comparable or maybe even higher considering he slashes it causally... But yeah like i said you win YOU made a point.

Who even said he did it casually? This is what I mean here, you're just making stuff up.

The fact is, he had to hit it dozens upon dozens of times to actually destroy it.

 

[Worthless]

how can he even nullify it with just one slash considering the size of his sword is nothing compared to it

I mean him causally slashing it

 

[ByAsura]

So basically your logic is that he's just nullifying a small part of it each time? You're literally giving more reason to divide this by a large amount.

 

[Worthless]

So basically your logic is that he's just nullifying a small part of it each time?

Isn't? This is not the same to those unrealistic anime where they can nullify a big magical orb with just a one swing

Which again he ain't no asta.

You're literally giving more reason to divide this by a large amount.

For the 2nd time you're contradicting the author intention.

Atomic with sun blade > Full powered HE

 

[LordTracer]

Question, did you ask Murata what his intention for that scene was? If you didn’t, you’re just giving your interpretation of the scene and trying to pass it off as fact.

 

[ByAsura]

Isn't? This is not the same to those unrealistic anime where they can nullify a big magical orb with just a one swing

Which again he ain't no asta.

So there's no actual scaling via this feat specifically.

For the 2nd time you're contradicting the author intention.

Atomic with sun blade > Full powered HE

For the 3rd time, you're projecting your interpretation of this scene. Nothing shows that he's superior to this specific orb.

HE's spheres vary massively in power, and he's a human.

 

[Ourosboros]

Isn't the Goketsu's statement about other monsters is an anime only thing? The manga only has him mention one superior, Orochi, to my knowledge.

Season 2 Guidebook, we agreed upon using them since ONE has a say in what goes in there as I recall

 

[Worthless]

Question, did you ask Murata what his intention for that scene was? If you didn’t, you’re just giving your interpretation of the scene and trying to pass it off as fact.

You don't need to ask it's fairly obvious if u gonna read the chapter, he can do those, which he previously can't, is because thanks to th sun blade.

So there's no actual scaling via this feat specifically.
For the 3rd time, you're projecting your interpretation of this scene. Nothing shows that he's superior to this specific orb.
HE's spheres vary massively in power, and he's a human.

Which again it's fairly obvious, but whatever as expected y'all just gonna keep disagreeing with it.

The fact he can cut PS with it... But ofc in y'all eyes HE >>>>>>>> PS

 

[Ourosboros]

It's a shame we didn't see Homeless charge up an orb for half an hour or something, I wonder if he could have done something country level if he spent all day amassing orbs for an attack. Feels to me like we never saw the full 'limits' of his power so to speak

 

[ByAsura]

I'm calculating the Atomic Samurai feat, but what timeframe should I use? I'm thinking either the speed of sound (since he's done that before), or the timeframe of a human's slash.

Also, the second orb can't be anything more than 12.19 metres in this panel.

Which again it's fairly obvious, but whatever as expected y'all just gonna keep disagreeing with it.

The fact he can cut PS with it... But ofc in y'all eyes HE >>>>>>>> PS

Do you mean Golden Sperm? I don't remember him cutting Platinum Sperm.

Also, the guy managed to cut off GS' arm with one blow (albeit over time), yet he took dozens of blows to do the same to the orb. I do think GS is superior to at least one of the orb slashes, but not all of them combined.

 

[Theendzero13]

It's a shame we didn't see Homeless charge up an orb for half an hour or something, I wonder if he could have done something country level if he spent all day amassing orbs for an attack. Feels to me like we never saw the full 'limits' of his power so to speak

Hey bro, HE with prep time can probrably destroy the planet now that i think about it

 

[Worthless]

et he took dozens of blows to do the same to the orb.

That's like saying a single slash of a sword can completely destroy the entirety of a mountain

So HE >>>>>>>>>>>> PS? Cool

 

[Ourosboros]

Hey bro, HE with prep time can probrably destroy the planet now that i think about it

I mean, it took him like ten seconds to charge up the aurora, if he stayed up a couple days gathering orbs (which he should be able to do right? There's no shown limit) he could do something crazy. I don't know about planet level, but something on the higher end of tier 6 at least.

 

[Theendzero13]

I mean, it took him like ten seconds to charge up the aurora, if he stayed up a couple days gathering orbs (which he should be able to do right? There's no shown limit) he could do something crazy. I don't know about planet level, but something on the higher end of tier 6 at least.

Give him a comfy seat and a week

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Based on what? Also Platinum Sperm literally doesn’t have a key, so I dunno where you’re getting him being below Gouketsu from.

Also Post-Molt Elder Centipede, AB Bang and current Garou literally scale to Gouketsu…

I'd argue to remove the possibly but I'll save that for another day

 

[ByAsura]

Anyone have any ideas for the timeframe of this feat?

That's like saying a single slash of a sword can completely destroy the entirety of a mountain

So HE >>>>>>>>>>>> PS? Cool

It's funny because you edited my comment as if I'm repeating myself, but you're repeating yourself so much that you completely ignore my question and make the same mistake about PS/GS again.

Know what, I don't care anymore. If you continue to say the same stuff without any substance or substantiation, I'm just going to see it as white noise.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also I should point out. Removing AP calcs from the equation. Golden Sperm is stronger than Gouketsu.

Darkshine AP = CK < Gouketsu

Darkshine AP < Darkshine dura < Golden Sperm < Platinum Sperm <= Pre Awakening Garou => Awakening Breath Bang = Post Molt EC