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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
- Thread starter TheRustyOne
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Are you still referring to people on here as "bitch"?
You've been warned before. Cut it out.
If you don't improve, you might end up being thread-banned from the general discussion thread.
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Damn ur an adult? Im still a sophomore
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That slipped out thats the first time in ions honestly i didnt even know i said that
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Why are we saying Shigaraki couldn't react to any of this where he clearly states he can't see the giant. The only thing he should have been able to see was the laser which he was already stunned by the giant thunderclap.
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“Stunned by the thunderclap”
Its not like he hasn’t taken countless attack that are stronger than this in a much inferior state, hell its not like he didn’t quickly react and attack right after having his face split open.
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In the movie id say bakugo has the strongest feats
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A - the purpose of a thunderclap like that is meant to stun you,
B - it clearly shows him being stunned, whether or not we want to argue where this giant version of Star goes in the power scaling we very clearly see a panel of Shigaraki being stunned from being thunder-clapped(). And the very next panel we see she's hitting him with the attack, meaning she hit while he was still being stunned it's that simple.
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Im not reading that
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The thunderclap hasnt been stated to stun ANYWHERE, its literally her attempted to crush shigaraki by slamming both her hands onto him. The scan you showed is literally shigaraki being crushed by star.
After this she lets him go, tells her bros to hit her with the lasers, puts a rule on the lasers, grabs the lasers, lift the laser up, slams it onto shigaraki, who is shown to have regenerated from being crushed.
Cmon man do better
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Do you not know what a thunderclap is, please look up the definition?
Where do we see him from being regenerated from being crushed while he's in the lasers?
Your idea is trying to give characters blitz feats when there is a reason stated in the chapter why he's not reacting, that's incredibly sketchy to base a calculation on.
(I'm going to wait a bit until other people come here to talk about this, I really don't want to go into a long conversation about this).
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Thunderclap definition is literally clashes of thunder, I fail to see why that is relevant here as lightning isn’t being used here. It’s called a thunderclap as she’s literally clapping him.
When he is clapped we see that his body is literally bleeding up and squashed in, when the laser hits him we see that his body isnt deflated nor is it wounded.
Pretty sure blitz is when you can’t perceive something, him not reacting to Star’s giant is fine, its literally invisible to him, but there’s no excuse for the laser as he can see that. The fact remains he was incapable of reacting to it. Nothing here is sketchy you just don’t want to accept something as simple as this.
U mean wait for everyone to attempt to jump me?
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How can Star “hit Shigaraki before he reacts” when she’s stated to be much weaker than All Might who Shigaraki is almost equal to in base physicals alone?
I’m pretty sure Shigaraki is just being lazy for half this fight since he relies on regen, and also the fact the giant is invisible.
I’m pretty sure Shigaraki is just being lazy for half this fight since he relies on regen, and also the fact the giant is invisible.
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Was it ever stated what % Deku uses in World Heroes? Like, in general.
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Where did you get "much weaker than All Might" from? I'm pretty sure the chapter didn't say that.
The exact line is:"I can't quite conjure super strength on All Might's level but I'm not too shabby".
These are like the exact same lines Shigaraki was getting apart from the Endeavor line. And we all agreed here that Ujiko's line was more reliable since he actually built Shigaraki.
Star and Shigaraki are comparable in physical stats. And she seems even slightly better considering both if them jumping at the same time ended with Star's fist in Shigaraki's face. She even draws blood which is impossible if she was not at the same level as him.
Even Shigaraki using that explosion last chapter did nothing to her. The lasers that damaged Shigaraki did not damage her despite her only starting to say the rules after she is hit by them.
Like what explanation do you have for that. Both times she catches the laser last chapter and this chapter, she says the rules AFTER the lases reach her body not before.
Let's not try to downplay her physical stats here.
Like look at last chapter, she literally ate that laser to the face and even exclaimed "laser" before making a rule all while taking zero damage.
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Shigaraki is just a noob at fighting.
”I can’t quite conjure up strength on All Might’s level, but I’m not too shabby!”
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”He’s not /quite/ on par with All Might, sadly…” and constant references to how he’s All Might level.
Star isn’t on the level, while Shigaraki just isn’t /equal/ to him.
”I can’t quite conjure up strength on All Might’s level, but I’m not too shabby!”
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”He’s not /quite/ on par with All Might, sadly…” and constant references to how he’s All Might level.
Star isn’t on the level, while Shigaraki just isn’t /equal/ to him.
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nO He nOt!11!!!!!!1!1!1!
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If Shigaraki went full-out, 100%, AFO big brain murder mode as soon as he saw Star do you think she’d still be alive?
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I think she’s still faster than him and he kinda can’t do anything against the atmosphere not existing. The fight would probably go the same but less talking since those OP jets would still be around.
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Hmm, the calc for Star’s giant clap from Therefir is looking like a return to 7-B. How interesting that, once again, we return to the higher tiers.
Most fluid tiers on the wiki indeed.
Most fluid tiers on the wiki indeed.
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Because she literally did it, her being inferior to All Might doesn’t prove anything, as she is literally relative to that power via feats. As someone mentioned not even Tomura is All Might level.
Him not seeing the giant doesnt mean anything as he can see the giant physicsl laser flying at him from dozen meters away. He couldnt react.
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Yeah true lol
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Just stop calling heroes rising an outlier and make it a day.
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Shigaraki has been stated multiple times to be All Might level, just not /on par/, aka, equal in strength.
Star is explicitly stated by herself that she’s not on his level in physicals.
Shigaraki was stunned by being literally clapped into a pancake. He also seems to be jobbing preeeetty hard these last few chapters for reasons unknown. He didn’t even Decay the jet he was standing on.
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Depends on how much size plays a factor in that feat. Star’s giant is, well, a GIANT, with below All Might physicals on top.
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Why would he Decay his own foothold in the air?
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Star is very blatantly stronger and faster than Shigaraki. Her managing to knock him out of the air and pin him to a jet shows that quite clearly. They both have statements of “not being All Might level” so it’s not like they have anything over the other there. By pure feats, Star is just better than Shiggy stat wise with her super strength rule.
As for the clap, he can’t see the giant. And reaction doesn’t matter either way since it’s calcing how fast the clouds parted relative to him falling.
What does matter to reaction speed is the giant laser spear going from above cloud to sea floor, which no one has calced yet to my knowledge.
As for the clap, he can’t see the giant. And reaction doesn’t matter either way since it’s calcing how fast the clouds parted relative to him falling.
What does matter to reaction speed is the giant laser spear going from above cloud to sea floor, which no one has calced yet to my knowledge.
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He has a Nomu and he can fly off the air already by punching.
Either Shigaraki is jobbing, he’s an idiot, or he’s lazy.
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Also wouldn’t the fact that the laser seemed to “push” the water out of the way and “pin” Shigaraki mean they have mass and thus don’t qualify for real lasers? Or are we going to ignore that or say “Star’s rule changed the properties of the lasers duhhh”??
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Or he’s too busy mentally maniacally laughing at what he can do with Star’s quirk.
Which considering he’s not fully Shigaraki anymore, yeah, that’s possible. I think the AFO side is actively making Shigaraki dumber and less brutal in combat
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Pretty sure Star and Stripe not being All Might's equal is the same thing as Shigaraki not being on All Might's equal.
They're still both All Might tier in strength, just not equal to All Might.
They're still both All Might tier in strength, just not equal to All Might.
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She made light into a solid? So yes, their properties are different? Atomic, are you ok?
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When did she say “the laser is now solid”?
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She never said it explicitly, but considering she is literally holding the combined light with her stand and there is a definitive beginning and end of the spear, I’m pretty sure it is solid now.
You don’t have to be a genius to recognize that being able to literally hold the lasers in any capacity means they have to be solid, and Star could not hold them herself without making a rule that she could. Ergo, she must have applied a similar property to allow her Stand to also hold the combined lasers.
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For anyone interested i got a massively hypersonic Deku calc from the new movie,
vsbattles.fandom.com
Deku goes big fast
vsbattles.fandom.com
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Oh, so, headcanon. Got it.
Wait, she’s holding a laser without a rule stating they are solid? So the lasers have mass. So they don’t qualify for lightspeed. Understood.
your argument is “she secretly made a sub-rule so that they’re solid duhhh”, then, well, that’s headcanon. Literally headcanon.
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Its already established that she has to make the lasers solid to be stationary/ have a physical form. The light cant even be stationary this is shown. So how is it headcanon when you use in series showings to make a conclusion? Hell in the first translations its actually stated that the laser was made hard and this could be a translation issue on viz size, to fuse something you would have to combine them which would be impossible for light, so they would have to have a physical form anyways.
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You’re actually being intentionally ignorant and dismissive of my arguments. Your sarcasm is wasted and honestly not useful at all. As always.Oh, so, headcanon. Got it.
Wait, she’s holding a laser without a rule stating they are solid? So the lasers have mass. So they don’t qualify for lightspeed. Understood.
Also, fun fact, the translations that first came out had her say “harden” for the laser rule. So if you’re really hell bent on being so stubbornly idiotic about something that is not mass (which is established in verse, unless you also skip entire pages when you say your ridiculous claims) suddenly being made of mass, go check the official Japanese raws with a translator and we’ll see what she actually said.
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Also why are you assuming the is making the splash when it could be the heat of the laser causing the water to boil quickly?
