My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[AtomicSekiro]

So, headcanon.

”Star made a secret rule we never see her say because her broken op hard to understand quirk needs even more confusion thrown into the mix and thus lasers are lightspeed and this can’t be debunked. Duhhh.”

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Also, since I now realize that you’re just slow to conversations and don’t ever look back in threads: it has already been established they aren’t light speed. You’re arguing nothing. Again.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Its not headcanon, address my argument. Youre just being petty at this point as in series showings can be used to form a conclusion

 

[Kingofwolves999]

So, headcanon.

”Star made a secret rule we never see her say because her broken op hard to understand quirk needs even more confusion thrown into the mix and thus lasers are lightspeed and this can’t be debunked. Duhhh.”

They already aren’t light speed by site rules.

You’re being stupid, honestly. That or you don’t even read this thread. Or anything. Pay attention next time.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Also, since I now realize that you’re just slow to conversations and don’t ever look back in threads: it has already been established they aren’t light speed. You’re arguing nothing. Again.

personally I dont see why they cant be said to be light speed, a hella other verses are LS based off of far small stuff than mha (ex. OK KO)

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Also why are you assuming the is making the splash when it could be the heat of the laser causing the water to boil quickly?

Boiling/evaporation looks different. We literally see the sea moving and splashing when she plunged the laser down.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

They already aren’t light speed by site rules.

You’re being stupid, honestly. That or you don’t even read this thread. Or anything. Pay attention next time.

No need to be rude. I’m simply adding another point of information to debunk these lasers being “lightspeed”, incase another person comes along and says otherwise.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

personally I dont see why they cant be said to be light speed, a hella other verses are LS based off of far small stuff than mha (ex. OK KO)

Because MHA isn’t a verse which needs, nor should, to be lightspeed.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

No need to be rude. I’m simply adding another point of information to debunk these lasers being “lightspeed”, incase another person comes along and says otherwise.

Rude? You’re the one being sarcastic and dismissing arguments as headcanon everytime you show up in this thread. Stop playing victim and accept that you were wrong. You weren’t helping anyone or adding any points other than to inflate your own ego at being right.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Boiling/evaporation looks different. We literally see the sea moving and splashing when she plunged the laser down.

Boiling at a fast speed can cause splashing, and if they did gain mass then theres no problem. The properties of light were hindered with so i dont see the problem with this

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Anyway, back to actually productive talks; who wants to calc the Keraunos from Star

 

[AtomicSekiro]

“The laser is holdable” is a weird thing.

What property did she change to make it holdable? Did she just remove it’s heat?? It doesn’t burn her hands like it did her mask or face. The lasers have already been shown to have some mass.

I dislike monologuing but Horikoshi needs to have his characters monologue just a tiiiiiiny bit more IMO. So much vagueness.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Rude? You’re the one being sarcastic and dismissing arguments as headcanon everytime you show up in this thread. Stop playing victim and accept that you were wrong. You weren’t helping anyone or adding any points other than to inflate your own ego at being right.

Again, stop being rude for no reason. I call headcanon arguments what they are; headcanons.

If you have to make up things to debunk a debunk, that’s headcanon. “The lasers unite into one!” isn’t the same as “the lasers become solid”, yet you insist Star changed the properties of the lasers with no actual canon to back that up.

 

[PrinceofPein]

How many rule can star use at a time? Isn't it two?
Then yes she didn't impose another rule on the lasers

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Shigaraki is quickly becoming the master of jobbing. 90% of his screentime has just been him taking hits. I think he forgot how to attack.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

“The laser is holdable” is a weird thing.

What property did she change to make it holdable? Did she just remove it’s heat?? It doesn’t burn her hands like it did her mask or face. The lasers have already been shown to have some mass.

I dislike monologuing but Horikoshi needs to have his characters monologue just a tiiiiiiny bit more IMO. So much vagueness.

To be holdable means it’s holdable, it means exactly what it means. Removing the heat doesn’t line up with the statement, making it holdable means before hand it wasn’t tangible

 

[AtomicSekiro]

How many rule can star use at a time? Isn't it two?
Then yes she didn't impose another rule on the lasers

Two targets. It’s not made certain how many rules she can place on a target tho.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Again, stop being rude for no reason. I call headcanon arguments what they are; headcanons.

If you have to make up things to debunk a debunk, that’s headcanon. “The lasers unite into one!” isn’t the same as “the lasers become solid”, yet you insist Star changed the properties of the lasers with no actual canon to back that up.

She could not hold the lasers themselves without making them holdable. Raw translations had her state the lasers become solid. She is holding a combined laser spear, when lasers have no mass.

You’re the one arguing headcanon. Again. You have no backing and go into a corner everytime someone proves you’re wrong. What, you can dish out sarcasm and belittle the arguments of others, but can’t handle it back? Are you that insecure?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Two targets. It’s not made certain how many rules she can place on a target tho.

Per target it can't pass a rule, or as she shown the ability to make more than a rule on a target??

 

[TimmyTurnero]

The kanji used in her statement is 固 which literally means solid. This is a viz issue.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Um so I'm certain the viz translation just didn't mentioned it, but the raw japanese kanji seems to be for solid/stable or any other adjectives.

I'm not 100% sure on this, but considering two other fan translation has her say solidify the laser and air, I think it's safe to say that's what happened.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

She could not hold the lasers themselves without making them holdable. Raw translations had her state the lasers become solid. She is holding a combined laser spear, when lasers have no mass.

You’re the one arguing headcanon. Again. You have no backing and go into a corner everytime someone proves you’re wrong. What, you can dish out sarcasm and belittle the arguments of others, but can’t handle it back? Are you that insecure?

She didn’t holding the combined laser, her air giant is. And it’s never stated she made THESE combined lasers holdable nor solid. So, again, headcanon argument.

Stop being rude or I’ll have to report you.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Bottom line: Star’s rules make no gods damn sense.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

I ninjad rusty

 

[Kingofwolves999]

“Being rude”

What? Are you ignoring your entire demeanor ever since you joined this thread? Stop acting as if you are being attacked or something. You insult others arguments freely, don’t dish out what you don’t want in return. Simple fact of life.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

And it’s never stated she made THESE combined lasers holdable nor solid. So, again, headcanon argument.

Me and rusty just debunked this

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Me and rusty just debunked this

”THESE combined lasers”, the combined lasers. Show me where she said her rule that the lasers she combined are solid. If not, headcanon.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

The correct translations say “solid into one, solidify into one, harden into one, harden and combine into one, etc” all making it gain mass so

 

[TimmyTurnero]

”THESE combined lasers”, the combined lasers. Show me where she said her rule that the lasers she combined are solid. If not, headcanon.

I JUST DID. Are you literally gonna ignore my post? The japanese kanji said make them solid and combine/harden into one.
I just gave you the literally kanji that says they are now solid.
Yall see this shit?

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Deku spin-kicked Nine so hard that the shockwaves pushed the ocean away and exposed deep trenches yet some people believe he wasn’t at 100% because “he didn’t break his legs”? Whack.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

I JUST DID. Are you literally gonna ignore my post? The japanese kanji said make them solid and combine/harden into one.
I just gave you the literally kanji that says they are now solid.
Yall see this shit?

There’s a word for this, “ninja’d”.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

….?
I have no idea what you’re talking about and ik i was told not to say this but COPE
一本に 固まる! かた

 

[Kingofwolves999]

There’s a word for this, “ninja’d”.

1) that’s not a ninja
2) she said this on the page she combined the lasers into one. I already know you aren’t looking at the Japanese raws, so go find them before thinking you are right in any capacity when talking about the Japanese raws

 

[AtomicSekiro]

MHA is a verse that’ll never reach lightspeed (thankfully) because it’d just be an outlier no matter what (unless the series pulls a dragon ball in, like, 10 years and adds aliens and Deku is actually a Vegeman from the planet Broccoli6) and the verse works better the lower scale it is.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Every High End in The War arc is replaced with a USJ Nomu with High End level intelligence. What changes?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Debunk him and he literally ignores you and goes and call it an outlier.
Can’t call something an outlier just because it doesn’t fit YOUR scaling when it clearly is set in the narrative scaling for the series

 

[AtomicSekiro]

I simply moved on from the conversation since it was getting toxic. You should try it too.

Nothing in the narrative says MHA is lightspeed nor even relativistic. If you want to bring the narrative into it, then almost every character besides Deku isn’t even bullet timing unless they’re explicitly equal to Deku in speed or on his level like Hawks, Endeavor, and maybe Bakugo.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Debunk him and he literally ignores you and goes and call it an outlier.
Can’t call something an outlier just because it doesn’t fit YOUR scaling when it clearly is set in the narrative scaling for the series

Ignore him. Whenever he’s proven wrong he changes the subject. It’s a common defense mechanism for prideful people who can’t admit when they’re not correct.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Now watch as he threatens to report me for saying he is prideful.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Stop being toxic for no reason.