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How strong is baseline Dragon Level?
Unquantifiably or massively above the strongest demons. Or basically Baseline Low 7-B (1.22 Megatons), which is what the strongest demons scale to.
Also your thoughts on Boros being superior to the meteor?
Also ByAsura, opinions on this?

I'm neutral towards it, I don't really care if Boros scales to it or not.
 
Working on Webcomic profiles, I assume?
Yep. I'm actually almost done with Saitama's profile. I just need to fix the scans.

And CK naturally, among quite a few other strong Dragons
I included him, the full list is here btw.

At least High 7-A:

  • Golden Sperm (Used his chadness to clap Darkshine)

High 7-A:

  • Darkshine's durability (Is massively above his own AP
  • Pre-Awakened Garou (Far stronger than before)
  • AB Bang (fought on par with Pre-Awakened Garou)
  • Post-Molt EC (Bang needed to go into AB in order to fight him)

At least 7-A+:

  • Superalloy Darkshine's casually above the 800+ megaton metal
  • Carnage Mode CK (Fough on par with Superalloy Darkshine)
  • Gouketsu (Superior to CK)
  • Vomit Fuhrer
  • Rover's durability

7-A+:

  • Initial Half-Monster Garou (Survived several attacks from a casual Super Alloy Darkshine, who was more serious then when he smashed the random monster)
  • Rover's AP, was able to easily defeat Half-Monster Garou
  • Bang and Bomb (Bang was able to deflect Darkshine's attack while Garou got clapped)
  • Atomic Samurai (Superior to Garou)
  • Flashy Flash (Superior to Garou)
  • Black Sperm (Can harm Atomic Samurai)
  • Metal Knight with prep time (Can harm his own buildings with preparations)

At most 7-A+:

  • Single headed Melzalgald (One single headed one could somewhat harm Bang)
I think that's all who scales
 
I could see Gouketsu scaling above his own feat. It's only the shockwave created in combat.
 
Not sure.

The meteor was just a normal punch, but he also seemed very intent on stopping it from destroying Z-City. So it could be higher than what he uses to kill monsters normally.
We are not scaling off of Saitama.

The argument is that Boros should scale above the meteor for the virtue of being an Above Dragon. His current Armored Form 6-C justification is being superior to HE's energy ball, which is exactly the same as the meteor, a one shot attack.
 
I'm kinda surprised that we have no speed feats beyond High Hypersonic, who did the feat ?

Also, about Fubuki:
  • Shaking a minor area should not be assumed to automatically translate to an earthquake. Either a large area being shaken or evidence that we are dealing with something earthquake-like and not just some minor shaking would be needed.
If she only shook a building, I don't think she should scale to a whole Earthquake
 
The argument is that Boros should scale above the meteor for the virtue of being an Above Dragon. His current Armored Form 6-C justification is being superior to HE's energy ball, which is exactly the same as the meteor, a one shot attack.
We don't scale Armored Boros off of the 6-C ball alone. We scale him off of the character himself, who is able to output the attack.
 
The way I see it, in terms of sheer strength, webcomic Garou is better (His High 7-A AP is higher while Manga is only Baseline, and Manga only has Class G while webcomic has Class T), but Manga Garou demonstrates better skill feats and abilities than his Webcomic self
 
We are not scaling off of Saitama.

The argument is that Boros should scale above the meteor for the virtue of being an Above Dragon. His current Armored Form 6-C justification is being superior to HE's energy ball, which is exactly the same as the meteor, a one shot attack.
Not sure why we're even considering Armoured Boros as the one who's Above Dragon.
I'm kinda surprised that we have no speed feats beyond High Hypersonic, who did the feat ?

Also, about Fubuki:

If she only shook a building, I don't think she should scale to a whole Earthquake
Sonic, who moved so fast that raindrops were frozen. Bang's meteor feat is probably much higher.

I kind of agree, but it was from another part of the city.
 
That's not my point. My point is that he doesn't specify which Boros.
 
Also I don't get why MB is the form assumed to be comparable to AG? When A. that likely would've been a stomp because AG has laughably better stamina (And ONE never mentions a stamina drain of any kind) B. ONE describes Boros shooting energy blasts towards AG, when he's only done that in his released form, and not MB
 
Besides, Boros in the anime (which afaik can be used for clarification) has a base form other than his armour, which is light blue. That shows he can keep a base form without wearing it, making that form Above Dragon.
 
Besides, Boros in the anime (which afaik can be used for clarification) has a base form other than his armour, which is light blue. That shows he can keep a base form without wearing it, making that form Above Dragon.
I don't get what that has to do with anything...
 
@Kachon I know that's what they mean, especially because it's kind of in the manga to an extent, but how's it an argument?

Also, we're talking about Boros with the armour because he's the only one who currently doesn't scale above the meteor.
 
Not talking about that, but about the scene where he is describing his regenerative properties. We can see there that Boros could mantain his base form without the necessity to go into Released.

A lot of people, like By Asura I think, don't get why Armored Boros is treated as an Above Dragon. Their argument is that the Amrored form should not be a key because its only purpose is to keep his Released power sealed.

It was a counterargument in favour of Armored Boros being an Above Dragon and by that logic scaling him to the meteor. In conclusion, Base Boros exists.
 
That was not even remotely my argument, and you haven't even remotely proved that Armoured Boros (aka, Boros with the armour itself) is Above Dragon.

You've just given some evidence—evidence that I haven't disagreed with, despite it being tenuous at best as Bernkastelll explained—that there's a base form. So what? Boros already has 3 forms, including armoured, energised, and meteoric burst.
 
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That was not even remotely my argument, and you haven't even remotely proved that Armoured Boros (aka, Boros with the armour itself) is Above Dragon.

You've just given some evidence—evidence that I haven't disagreed with, despite it being tenuous at best as Bernkastelll explained—that there's a base form. So what? Boros already has 3 forms, including armoured, energised, and meteoric burst.
If ONE wanted to be specific, he would have. If he wanted it to be all forms but Armored he would have said so. That's like if Kishimoto said that pre-ts Sasuke is Jonin lvl, and people were saying, "Only curse-mark Sasuke is Jonin lvl." It doesn't make sense, and it's baseless assumptions.
 
Who says he would have been more specific? ONE clearly hasn't in the past. And neither has Murata, for that matter.

It's more baseless to use leaps in logic just so you can apply a rating to someone who's completely featless and treat it as absolute fact.
 
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