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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Except melzalgald is straight up stronger than Bug God. As well as faster. Bug God's Ap being superior to his Mel's dura means nothing when Melzalgald is faster. All Melzalgald needs to do is use his superior speed and superior AP and slice bug god to bits
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Except melzalgald is straight up stronger than Bug God. As well as faster. Bug God's Ap being superior to his Mel's dura means nothing when Melzalgald is faster. All Melzalgald needs to do is use his superior speed and superior AP and slice bug god to bits
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It does matter, because superior speed doesn't mean anything when if Mel gets hit one or two times, hes dead.
 
Do you know how much faster Mel is?

Mel could keep up with Atomic Samurai, who Darkshine stated could easily blitz Half Monster Garou, who is faster than the HM garou before Orochi, who blitzed royal ripper, who could keep up with the Garou that fought Bug god

Mel = Atomic Samurai > HM Garou > HM Garou before Orochi > Royal Ripper = Bug God
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Do you know how much faster Mel is?

Mel could keep up with Atomic Samurai, who Darkshine stated could easily blitz Half Monster Garou, who is faster than the HM garou before Orochi, who blitzed royal ripper, who could keep up with the Garou that fought Bug god

Mel = Atomic Samurai > HM Garou > HM Garou before Orochi > Royal Ripper = Bug God
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*Royal Ripper <= Bug God

Dual_Binoculars said:
Even if speed was equalized Bug God we be long dead before he could figure out Melz weakness.
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It was without regen
 
Yeah, I know, but back to the original argument, I still think Mel wins, but it wouldn't be one sided. One or two hits from Bug God would seal the deal, which isn't impossible, considering both Metal Bat, and Puri, were able to hit him, even though they are MHS+.
 
Basically Melz loses to anyone mid-demon or higher who can actually tag him a couple times. Awakened Cockroach might be able to do it if we lowball the speed to Puri Puri/Metal Bat's level
 
Kachon123 said:
Yeah, I know, but back to the original argument, I still think Mel wins, but it wouldn't be one sided. One or two hits from Bug God would seal the deal, which isn't impossible, considering both Metal Bat, and Puri, were able to hit him, even though they are MHS+.
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I highly doubt one or two hits from Bug God would seal the deal. Even without regen Melz can still shapeshift and split into multiple bodies. Also the only reason Metal Bat and Puri did so well against Melz was because they has backup from Atomic and Bang. If you removed those two Puri would get one shot and Metal Bat would have a very hard time with a slight chance of winning only due to his fighting spirit
 
Ourosboros said:
Basically Melz loses to anyone mid-demon or higher who can actually tag him a couple times. Awakened Cockroach might be able to do it if we lowball the speed to Puri Puri/Metal Bat's level
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I feel mid is underselling him considering Melz casually one shot someone on the same level as Deep Sea King.
 
Ourosboros said:
Basically Melz loses to anyone mid-demon or higher who can actually tag him a couple times. Awakened Cockroach might be able to do it if we lowball the speed to Puri Puri/Metal Bat's level
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Except no one can tag him as he could keep up with top tier S-Class heroes, and none of these demons could
 
Melzargard is fodder without his regen. His attacks seem at least fairly impressive, but at the same time, one of his stronger attacks literally didn't even visibly hurt Bang, with Bang himself regarding it as something that just loosened him up like a massage. That alone implies that even his AP isn't actually all that impressive. And the only reason he could keep attacking without being killed right on the spot is, again, because his regen exists. Even if his dura was amped to his AP, I could barely see him being Mid-Dragon at best, probably more so Low-Dragon.

Also, Mel wasn't "keeping up" with Atomic Samurai at all. Atomic was slicing him apart with no issue even when a bit casual. And when he forced AS back, that wasn't due to speed as much as it was him just releasing rapid attacks with morphed body parts, and even with so many attacks at once, AS was still easily dealing with it. Once AS got serious, Mel was blitzed. At best you could say he's somewhat comparable to very casual AS.
 
Why everybody got to rag hard on my boi Melz? Yeah if u take away his regen yeah he goes down a bit, but that's not all he can do. Also you people are getting on his regen so hard, but what if u took away say Metal Bat's FS then he would be fodder or Sonic's speed he would be fodder or Genos's incineration cannons or even Tank Top Master's tank top. They would all be fodder without it.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Except no one can tag him as he could keep up with top tier S-Class heroes, and none of these demons could
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Metal Bat is only top tier when heavily pumped up, Bang is only top tier when he gets genuinely serious, and AS is also only top tier when he gets genuinely serious, which only debatably happens at one point when using the Atomic Slash. Meanwhile a severely weakened Hero Hunter Garou who was literally poisoned, bleeding out, already severely injured before then, not having eaten food in days, etc. was able to at least somewhat keep up with a Bang that, according to Garou, was just letting loose on him. If Garou was in peak condition at the time, he'd have fared much better.
 
Dual_Binoculars said:
Why everybody got to rag hard on my boi Melz? Yeah if u take away his regen yeah he goes down a bit, but that's not all he can do. Also you people are getting on his regen so hard, but what if u took away say Metal Bat's FS then he would be fodder or Sonic's speed he would be fodder or Genos's incineration cannons or even Tank Top Master's tank top. They would all be fodder without it.
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Yes. They have unique gimmicks that make them hard to take out. Without those gimmicks they're fodder, same goes for Mel who literally would've been one shotted by Iaian if he didn't have regen, let alone any of the S-Class. Idk what your point is.
 
RinneItachi said:
Yes. They have unique gimmicks that make them hard to take out. Without those gimmicks they're fodder, same goes for Mel who literally would've been one shotted by Iaian if he didn't have regen, let alone any of the S-Class. Idk what your point is.
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IDk what your point is ripping on Melz so hard.
 
I'm literally just stating how strong he is lol. Idk what the hell you're going on about but I'm just going to ignore this.
 
Hmph That's what I thought. As a proud member of the MDF (Melzalgald Defense Force) I will not stand by and let people disrespect my boi Melz! So I'm going to make some matches with him to bump up his cred.
 
RinneItachi said:
Also, Mel wasn't "keeping up" with Atomic Samurai at all. Atomic was slicing him apart with no issue even when a bit casual. And when he forced AS back, that wasn't due to speed as much as it was him just releasing rapid attacks with morphed body parts, and even with so many attacks at once, AS was still easily dealing with it. Once AS got serious, Mel was blitzed. At best you could say he's somewhat comparable to very casual AS.
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I also think that Mel's speed should be downgraded. I think he is slower than Awakened Cockroach and Sonic. He didn't keep up with Atomic Samurai or Bang, they toyed with him.
 
He couldn't even land a proper strike on any of them while they were on gaurd. Metal Bat and Puri could also keep up with his movements. Atomic Samurai and Bang did completely blitz him, but the others didn't. Whenever Bang or AS landed an attack on him, Mel failed to dodge and he didn't even seem to react to them either.

His Sub-Rel speed comes from Atomic Samurai and Bang, who he failed to dodge and react to.

As for Awakened Cockroach and Sonic, I don't know, I just had a feeling that they are faster than him with no good reasons, so you can ignore that.
 
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AS and Bang were pretty significantly faster than him even when relatively casual, so saying he's on par with them at their peaks or whatever is definitely stretching. He also wasn't literally reacting to all of them simultaneously. He just relied on his regen and method of attacking to try overwhelming them. They barely actually attacked him together, either. And even when the S-Class present attacked him at once, he wasn't reacting to, avoiding, and blocking them all at the same time or anything close to that, they just kept hitting him but never did relevant damage due to regen.
 
Unrelated to the previous discussion, but Krukov answered my request on making renders for Elder Centipede as per his model sheet, and here they are:

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Elder Centipede

Elder Centipede was a high ranking member of the Monster Association who first appeared in S-City, wreaking havoc and fighting the S-Class heroes Metal Bat and Bofoi. Elder Centipede was an exceptionally powerful monster. A pumped up Metal Bat was unable to deal even the slightest damage to the...
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Elder Centipede

Elder Centipede was a high ranking member of the Monster Association who first appeared in S-City, wreaking havoc and fighting the S-Class heroes Metal Bat and Bofoi. Elder Centipede was an exceptionally powerful monster. A pumped up Metal Bat was unable to deal even the slightest damage to the...
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They are in EC's page already since Antvasima approved of them, they're in color, the character is in a more relaxed pose and they don't show a city or another character, thus it's agreed that they work better for the page, plus it doesn't hurt to have both of EC's forms, we do it for other monsters that can also transform and change. The first is the more recognizable look since it's what we first see him in, but the second one is the one he dies in so they're both relevant for different reasons.

Still, USklaverei suggested I should ask what people's opinions were on these official renders.
 
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Wish if this was canon:cry:
 
Kin201 said:
He couldn't even land a proper strike on any of them while they were on gaurd. Metal Bat and Puri could also keep up with his movements. Atomic Samurai and Bang did completely blitz him, but the others didn't. Whenever Bang or AS landed an attack on him, Mel failed to dodge and he didn't even seem to react to them either.

His Sub-Rel speed comes from Atomic Samurai and Bang, who he failed to dodge and react to.

As for Awakened Cockroach and Sonic, I don't know, I just had a feeling that they are faster than him with no good reasons, so you can ignore that.
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I agree
 
i... lol i have no words for that little strip. Was cute though, wouldn't mind a Saitama x Fubuki.
 
For a moment there, I almost thought they were actually going to get a read on Saitama's strength.
 
Genos literally just said that he felt as if he might go on a rampage, which could be suggestive of a popular theory that Genos is the Mad Cyborg, of course, this is meant to be interpreted as Genos just getting super pissed off and wanting to go ballistic on Metal Knight, but I'm gonna keep it in mind. Also, apparently Dr. Kuseno has a jet, although I guess that isn't too surprising.

I'm glad to see that Saitama actually does have a sense of respect for Kuseno, due to how much Kuseno has helped Genos, which further shows that Saitama does actually care about Genos, something we see again when Saitama worries for Genos' safety and is actually taking the situation fairly seriously, for Saitama standards at least. Also, for Genos to say that he doesn't know if even Saitama would be able to defeat the Mad Cyborg by himself implies that Genos might think the Mad Cyborg is at least within an Above Dragon type of territory. Genos also just blatantly confirmed that he's Dragon level, although I think everyone agreed with that by now.
 
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