No, because this said "flowery language" only exists in the first place when you try connecting dots that aren't actually connected.
And that's a very damning understatement when this said paragraph isn't just speaking about the game, but the literal storyline and lore that is tied up into it.
Excuse me?
Palkia, the being who represents space and is the space of the multiverse, is the creator of parallel universes. Self-explanatory.
"The creator of parallel universes"
I miss how's that relevant, as he's being specific on that detail.
You serious? There are like 3 sources that say that Space = All parallel Universes
If you read well the last part, he's speaking of their relationship in the verse.
Right because when the quote actually speaks about the verse's lore and storyline, that is a dot I can very much absolutely connect. Or im sorry, instead of lore, we can say "Sinnoh Mythology"
Or you go the simple route and go with him speaking about both the theme of the game and it's storyline....which is exactly the case presented.
And this is irrelevant when this is speaking about the makeup of the verse.
Which again, has absolutely nothing to do with the scale of said time and space. Which he specifies as being infinite.
And how's that making that flowery in the 1st place? If you actually read properly the blog, you'd know that is referring to the whole of the parallel universes, since Palkia is the master of space, that is the whole of parallel dimensions as said in lots of myths, Pokedex and Cyrus' studies.
Here we go with the filibustering again.
No, what I think he was referencing was the literal lore and mythology of the verse, which he precisely says is the case. What does the TCG have to do with that?
And I really don't care what you do or don't appreciate, no offense. The only one who's strawmannirg here is you when the interview is clearly and blatantly speaking beyond the work of the game. It speaks about the storyline and mythology of said game, making it perfectly viable.
And that changes nothing about the actual point here is. That time and space, per his words, is infinite in scale. Simple as that.
Nice job of twisting what I said. What I said is irrelevant is your interpretation of what the quote is referring to.
I suggest to clearly take a good read then, because literally most of the stuff you're saying is already countered.
It's self-explanatory. The usage of "Infinite space" in the provided paragraph is literal.
It doesn't. The first reference is talking about the property of space to expand. The "dimensions" that are being talked about here aren't parallel universes, it's talking about height, width and depth and their natural expansion. And so is the original creation myth. The other two are references to parallel universes and none of these are mutually exclusive.
I assume you are aware of what quotation marks are used for? Do you see the word space used anywhere in the quote you have provided?
Ad nauseam 2 responses in... wonderful.
Another one who didn't read the blog, just calling it Google Doc is pretty much a proof tbf
Not an argument.
Failing to see what this point is supposed to do other than back up my argument.
Complete head canon that's supported by nothing and ignoring what the scans, for one, outright say. "Parallel universes" blatantly means parallel universes.
There isn't any different context to them, they are self-explanatory in what they are talking about. But of course you have to invent head canon in order to have an argument against that.
Palkia = Space.
Because they're actually right. So yeah, wonderful.
Can you not? This thread will probably already escalate the more as time goes on but speeding up the process by being toxic doesn't help at all.
I mean if this was true then ultra space is infinite. which would be proof for infinite infinite wormholes and so on
Which I countered and said they have absolutely nothing to do with the scale of what time and space is the verse. Period.
Because what your trying to point out from said quote doesn't debunk anything and is, no offense, literal inventing of points to try and loosen the structure of the evidence.
Of course we do, but when the said opposition has to use unconnected dots and unrelated points as the main basis to their counter-argument, it also gives us room to doubt you on whether or not you actually understood the basis of the upgrade's argument in the first place as well.
And this is irrelevant. His quote doesn't need to reference Lucian and the TCG specifically. His quote is referencing the makeup of the verse, which Lucian and the TCG give support to by doing the same thing.
This is a faulty comparison when the idea of substance and the scale of what time and space are in the lore are unrelated ideas within the same response of what his idea of the ultimate is for the games.
Literally how so? There are more Infinite Space statements across the game, Masuda just supports them.
Ofc is the "Ultimate", I mean, he's talking about what makes the Pokémon reality, so how's that flowery at all?
Except that we are when already in Diamond and Pearl Dex entries they're described as the complete masters and origins of said elements.
Your argument doesn't exist.
The exact opposite. Your interpretation is the head-canon here. It more closely resembles fan-fiction actually. Taking together different sentences from different conversations in different stories and mashing them all together as if that's in any way logical. You're the one ignoring the scans and trying to turn into in a scan (singular). The source is perfectly clear on this. Expanding space. Period.
It's absolutely speaking about that. The fact that Pokemon is a mutiverse has no bearing on it at all.
You failed to answer the question so it must be. I'll ask again, do you see the word space used anywhere in the quote you have provided? Simple yes or no question.
To support this point further, another important key in Diamond and Pearl points to such. Aka them repesenting Time and Space is actually a thing.
Literally all the cosmology blogs work like that.
If only you read it, you'd know that it can fit the already infinite amount of timelines increasing even more, as bigger infinities are a thing.
I mean, there are like 4 links which say that.
Plus, it seems to consider everything as a part of space, which would likely include the parallel dimensions mentioned in the passage.
I’m pretty sure they are literally representing the substance of the multiverse.
And that's not an argument.
Prove it then.
It is exactly logical when they all support the overall main point, which is something we do for literally every franchise that has a page on this site.
Which refers to parallel universes. Period.
It does, because the interpretation you bring conflicts with that. The verse is obviously not one large universe, it is a multiverse, so "Space expanding" very clearly means the numerical amount of universes.
And I answered. You choosing to not accept is a you problem.
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No they don't. There might be others who tailor sentences to their advantage in this manner (which I personally doubt since this is clearly very blatant and extremely counter-productive), and if there are they are just as wrong as this one.
A completely unrelated, and unsubstantiated, response to what I had posted. The point remains.
None. Zilch. Nada. All of the sources are separate and they all have their own context.
What are you even talking about? They, in the same way they were describing how space is.
Definitely, as there's not a reason why it should. There are literally no other meanings about how Space can be.
That's absolutely headcanon as Arceus isn't even mentioned in the interview.
