STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[ImposingTiger]

If a character shows better feats than they did in a previous arc, they can get a new key. Also what you’re saying is just not what happened. Royal Ripper didn’t pierce Garou before he fought Rover, Garou broke his sword and proceeded to punch his head off in the next panel. Garou then proceeded to have another fight after that (you do remember that Garou constantly gets stronger, right?) and then he “fought” Rover, where his attacks were totally ineffective and he was convinced that a single blast would kill him.

Garou literally gets stabbed in that same panel.

He was convinced the attack was going to kill him but it didn't. I agree Rover is much stronger than Royal Ripper. My point is, if you say Fubuki was as strong as now since the beggining of the series, nothing would contradict it. If you try to argue Do-S shouldn't scale to her, I bring up the Royal Ripper-Garou point, as a supporting evidence

But tbh, I don't see a reason why Fubuki could have gotten stronger in two or three days narratively speaking. It makes no sense. Imo, she should have a single key and Amai Mask should be above that.

 

[LordTracer]

Garou literally gets stabbed in that same panel.

He literally doesn’t. Where do you see him getting stabbed, is it before or after he punches RR’s head off? And again, Garou constantly gets stronger. He wasn’t even considered Dragon level when he fought RR, he only reached that level afterwards when he fought Unihorn, Showerhead and Super Mouse.

I’m not opposed to Fubuki only having one key, but the logic you’re using to justify it is faulty. Also “it makes no sense” is not an argument, that’s a fallacy.

 

[Ped2018]

He literally doesn’t. Where do you see him getting stabbed, is it before or after he punches RR’s head off? And again, Garou constantly gets stronger. He wasn’t even considered Dragon level when he fought RR, he only reached that level afterwards when he fought Unihorn, Showerhead and Super Mouse.

I’m not opposed to Fubuki only having one key, but the logic you’re using to justify it is faulty. Also “it makes no sense” is not an argument, that’s a fallacy.

nah dude, when Garou punches him you can see the blade entering Garous' sides

 

[ImposingTiger]

He literally doesn’t. Where do you see him getting stabbed, is it before or after he punches RR’s head off? And again, Garou constantly gets stronger. He wasn’t even considered Dragon level when he fought RR, he only reached that level afterwards when he fought Unihorn, Showerhead and Super Mouse.

I’m not opposed to Fubuki only having one key, but the logic you’re using to justify it is faulty. Also “it makes no sense” is not an argument, that’s a fallacy.

Then prove it makes sense.

Garou didn't get any stronger from RR to Rover. He only fought Unihorn, Supermouse and Showerhead, which didn't require him to evolve.

He gets stabbed right when he punches RR's face. After that he has the blade stuck in his stomach and blood is coming out of a hole. Then he procceeds to cover the wound with RR's clothes.

 

[DbzDB2]

so you're saying that fubuki is strong enough to deflect rover's attacks but non amped bang and bomb cant? that makes no sense. now you're literally saying that fubuki is stronger than non amped bang and bomb. bang and bomb were already on the verge of being able to deflect rover's attacks, fubuki simply made them slightly stronger which was enough of a boost for them to do what they did.

 

[DbzDB2]

it was an outlier. fubuki is at the bottom of A-Class in the webcomic even though she did the same feat in the webcomic. if she is 7-A why is she below the likes of snek and lightning max?

 

[Tetsucabrah]

it was an outlier. fubuki is at the bottom of A-Class in the webcomic even though she did the same feat in the webcomic. if she is 7-A why is she below the likes of snek and lightning max?

I don't think this matters. The Hero Association isn't aware of her feats as far as we know.

 

[ImposingTiger]

it was an outlier. fubuki is at the bottom of A-Class in the webcomic even though she did the same feat in the webcomic. if she is 7-A why is she below the likes of snek and lightning max?

The thing is I don't believe Rover's blasts are that powerful. Bang and Bomb aren't that powerful either. Just a kick from Darkshine did more damage than their CFDSF. Rover's 7-A rank is mainly because of durability and the martial atrists damaged Goo Orochi with multiple attacks.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So is every webcomic character weaker than its manga version?

Saitama actually has a possibly 5-B statement so that's pretty cool.

 

[LordTracer]

Then prove it makes sense

And why should I do that, exactly? Things not making sense doesn’t mean they’re invalid, you can’t use argumentation from incredulity as a point.

Garou didn't get any stronger from RR to Rover. He only fought Unihorn, Supermouse and Showerhead, which didn't require him to evolve.

Blatantly stated that Garou is getting stronger, so no, Royal Ripper wouldn’t be scaling to 7-B for any reason. Especially when Garou only reached Dragon level after killing him, and baseline Dragon level is just Low 7-B+.

it was an outlier. fubuki is at the bottom of A-Class in the webcomic even though she did the same feat in the webcomic. if she is 7-A why is she below the likes of snek and lightning max?

Were you not already told that we’re separating the manga and the webcomic? You can’t use something from the webcomic to go against the manga. We had a whole revision for this, come on now. Rover might not even be 7-A in the webcomic. Also by your logic, Fubuki would be 8-C, so saying “why is she beneath Snek” is absolutely not an argument.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm pretty sure power isn't everything when it comes to hero rankings. Considering it's implied she stays as number 1 for B class because of her insecurities and her need to be top for something. That would imply that she's likely much stronger than a lot of A-Class heroes and never moved up due to her insecurities

 

[LordTracer]

I'm pretty sure power isn't everything when it comes to hero rankings. Considering it's implied she stays as number 1 for B class because of her insecurities and her need to be top for something. That would imply that she's likely much stronger than a lot of A-Class heroes and never moved up due to her insecurities

Exactly, and her feats are already better than literally everyone in the A-Class and even some S-Class (cough cough TTM, cough cough Metal Bat, cough cough PPP and Genos before the Monster Association Arc).

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Exactly, and her feats are already better than literally everyone in the A-Class and even some S-Class (cough cough TTM, cough cough Metal Bat, cough cough PPP and Genos before the Monster Association Arc).

If she wasn't insecure, Fubuki would be flexin' on people frfr

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also considering she is kinda wants fame and is attention seeking, there's no way she's gonna surpass amai mask in that

 

[Kachon123]

I agree with Fubuki not being 7-A, only due to her only being able to block a rover beam twice. And if you bring up her reinforcing Bang and Bomb's bodies, That was mostly Bang and Bomb. She said that they will move only a little bit better.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Also considering she is kinda wants fame and is attention seeking, there's no way she's gonna surpass amai mask in that

Fubuki be like:

 

[Kachon123]

Also this fact that I brought up also proves her statement about Amai being leagues above her.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Can you imagine amai mask in the real world, or how amai mask stand on social media. Like they gonna be horny for amai mask just breathing, or cancel off the face of the planet when he's revealed to be a monster.

#AmaiMaskIsOverParty

 

[Ourosboros]

Narratively, I would put Fubuki at the top of A-class. She'd be mid-demon level if it weren't for her performance against Rover. But let's see how she beats Psykos- that'll put this argument to rest.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'd say fubuki should probably just downscale to Low 7-B+ maybe, as she is somewhat weaker than Rover, who's just baseline 7-B

 

[LordTracer]

I'd say fubuki should probably just downscale to Low 7-B+ maybe, as she is somewhat weaker than Rover, who's just baseline 7-B

Well, he should be above baseline, but to an unquantifiable degree. She should probably downscale though.

She said that they will move only a little bit better.

Bang stated that he could “pack a punch again” or something along those lines because of her, which is definitely AP and not speed.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Would that be technically be healing? She should probably get that if she doesn't already

 

[Epiccheev]

She also did it to TTM, i'd say it's statistic amplifications + minor healing( healed Band and Bomb's joints)

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah, stat amping + limited healing sounds good.

 

[Kachon123]

Well, he should be above baseline, but to an unquantifiable degree. She should probably downscale though.

Bang stated that he could “pack a punch again” or something along those lines because of her, which is definitely AP and not speed.

*correction, sharpness of a punch is the speed.

 

[LordTracer]

*correction, sharpness of a punch is the speed.

The higher-quality Viz translation says pack a punch.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So what's next on this CRT month lol

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

btw y'all, King is beating a Dragon Ball character.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's beautiful

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Oh, and someone had a question on this thread relating to OPM.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Blatantly stated that Garou is getting stronger, so no, Royal Ripper wouldn’t be scaling to 7-B for any reason. Especially when Garou only reached Dragon level after killing him, and baseline Dragon level is just Low 7-B+.

No. Garou is the same as when he fought Royal Ripper, as he doesn't get stronger by killing someone that doesn't push him to his limits, so Tareo is probably comparing Garou to his A-class fight version. If you want to say Garou evolved after being stabbed, I think that's not enough evidence, but it's a possibility.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Doesn't Gyoro Gyoro state that Garou grows stronger after being in near death situations? Garou was in exactly that.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Doesn't Gyoro Gyoro state that Garou grows stronger after being in near death situations? Garou was in exactly that.

I wouldn't call it near death, but it could work. Even with that, it's not that big of a boost.

 

[Kin201]

No. Garou is the same as when he fought Royal Ripper, as he doesn't get stronger by killing someone that doesn't push him to his limits, so Tareo is probably comparing Garou to his A-class fight version. If you want to say Garou evolved after being stabbed, I think that's not enough evidence, but it's a possibility.

This.
Also, Half Monster Garou gets stabbed by Royal Ripper is understandable because it was a piercing attack, so no scaling RR to HMG. Especially Garou severs the dude's head in one hit in the same panel.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Doesn't Garou become threat level Dragon after being stabbed by royal ripper? Before, we know he's only a demon level threat, as he didn't stomp 2 demons, even if he was holding back, I doubt he was already threat level dragon by then

 

[Kin201]

I think the wiki treats the dude Garou who gets his ass kicked by Bug God and Royal Ripper as Human Garou, not Half-Monster. He begins transforming into his half-monster state when he awakens.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think the wiki treats the dude Garou who gets his ass kicked by Bug God and Royal Ripper as Human Garou, not Half-Monster. He begins transforming into his half-monster state when he awakens.

I think that's only when he truly started to become a half monster and become a dragon level threat. Prior, he was still a demon.

 

[Kin201]

I'm pretty sure the dude in this image is enough to stomp Bug God and Royal Ripper. He proceeds to one-shot the latter and gets his stomach impaled, and then he meets the mouse and the other two dudes. At this point, he claims himself to be a Dragon-level, but I don't think it is safe to assume that he got massively stronger because he was only impaled. If I have to assume, it is just barely.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm pretty sure the dude in this image is enough to stomp Bug God and Royal Ripper. He proceeds to one-shot the latter and gets his stomach impaled, and then he meets the mouse and the other two dudes. At this point, he claims himself to be a Dragon-level, but I don't think it is safe to assume that he got massively stronger because he was only impaled. If I have to assume, it is just barely.

That was the same guy who survived blasts from rover, despite being weaker. So I doubt BG or RR scale to him in the slightest

 

[Kin201]

Yeah. You're right, that was the same guy who tanked Rover's blasts albeit weaker, but it should be noted that he barely survived, much like Fubuki when she tanked that ridiculously huge energy ball from Rover as well. We know how Garou gets stronger with his Reactive Evolution. He can't get stronger on his own, he needs something to trigger him, and as far as we know, that is he needs to have a near-death experience or to fight opponents that are on the same level as him or weaker but not a stomp like with Royal Ripper.

You know right? He got stronger when he was cornered and pushed to his limits by Rover and later by Orochi, Darkshine, etc.. He showed to continually faster and stronger as he was in combat.
He doesn't get stronger when fighting somebody that he can stomp them. Like with 3P. It is obvious that Awakened Garou won't get stronger when he stomps the other S-Class heroes, but it must be when he fights Saitama.