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LOTM_Historian
Hey Glassman, sorry to bother you for a moment. ActuallySpaceMan pointed out that in the spirit world, the past, present, and future are stacked on top of each other. Because of this, he says that traversing the entire spirit world wouldn’t just be infinite speed, but immeasurable. Since you previously agreed to infinite speed, I was wondering if you also agree that this would mean immeasurable speed as well for the spirit worldl.

Here is the thread:
Theglassman12
Theglassman12
Still not really seeing how that's immeasurable speed, so count my vote for infinite at best.
LOTM_Historian
LOTM_Historian
Hmm, alright. Since 2-3 staff members agree with immeasurable and you disagree, how many votes would I need to proceed?
Theglassman12
Theglassman12
3 staff votes
Pedonar
Hey Elizio33, Can you continue from where GarrianXD left off? He had already agreed to 9-D in this CRT, and two other mods also agreed with him, except for Ant, who supported 10-D.

Garrian didn't continue because he retired as a mod and left the community, but he wrote that message before retirement.

Since the CRT has four pages and over 100 replies, here is a summary of the conversation between Digital_Franz and GarrianXD

Could you look at the 10-D argument and let us know what you think?

Current Votes:

Antvasima: Agrees with 10D

GarrixianXD, DarkDragonMedeus, Theglassman12: Agrees with 9D
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FentyBeauty
hi! i have finished my sandbox for agatha harkness (comics) that i have told you about. i created a crt here for her profile creation if you’re interested in checking that out/or if ur available.
Chritin
Hey, I saw you were listed as a knowledgeable member on Berserk and I wanted your opinion on this. was thinking of making a verse matchup between Femto Griffith vs Miquella the Kind from Elden Ring. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on which key of Miquella (limited to 7-A) would be best to put against Griffith, particularly since they all have a variety of hax. Here's his verse page for context: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Miquella_the_Kind
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Chritin
Chritin
That makes sense. Its actually likely Miquella's mind control powers could reach the scale of and potency of affecting the entire world in his god form, since the entire goal of his order was to create an order of compassion where all beings would be bound by his laws of kindness. However, since we never see him take the Elden Ring, we never see how his mind control powers have expanded beyond him being able to mind control the Tarnished and their allies by whispering to them (although maybe I should mention it in his profile). Also if I were to use God Miquella, his AP would be MUCH higher than Griffiths to the point where the debate would be kind of impossible though. Thanks for your insight though!
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
AP doesn't really matter all that much in this matchup, as both rely much more on their hax, and Femto still has layered incorporeality and intangibility with which to ignore attacks, with it even being able to neg attacks from a weapon which can harm Type 1 Abstracts, wielded by a character with resistance to causality and fate. He can also reflect and block attacks with his spatial manipulation, so any physical attack is kinda useless even without his passive fate invincibility hax. This battle would boil entirely down to whose hax and counter hax are better.
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Chritin
Chritin
Hmm. Maybe I could do God Miquella then, in which case I'll have to ask the Elden Ring discussion if Miquella should get his global mind hax in his god form.
Youngwolf-0.1
Hello, I have a question about this. What speed would be given in this context?
HOW COULD IT BE? I COULDN'T DETECT ANY RIPPLE IN SPACE, AS IF IT WAS A TELEPORT!
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Youngwolf-0.1
Youngwolf-0.1
So only spatial manipulation and teleportation?
Albert-Moriarty777
Albert-Moriarty777
Answer: No, this is not actual speed (Travel Speed).
Reason:
The ability relies on spatial manipulation rather than actual movement. Zhuo Fan does not travel the distance between two points; instead, he instantly changes his location by altering the structure of space itself. This means he is not moving at any speed but rather bypassing the distance entirely.
Example:
Imagine an ant walking on a piece of paper from point A to point B.
If the ant walks, it has actual speed, which depends on time and distance.
But what if we fold the paper so that points A and B meet, then place the ant directly at B without it walking?
In this case, the ant did not move at a speed, it was simply transported instantly. This is similar to what Zhuo Fan does—he does not travel, he instantly changes his position through spatial manipulation.
Regarding Your Question:
Yes, this ability is (Spatial Manipulation) and (Instantaneous Teleportation), but it is not actual speed.
(Spatial Manipulation): Altering the structure of space itself to make two points connected or closer without physical movement.
(Instantaneous Teleportation): Appearing in a new location instantly without crossing the space between.
In other words: Zhuo Fan is not moving at high speed; instead, he is directly changing his position by manipulating space.
Astral_Trinity439
Astral_Trinity439
Passersby
hello

sorry for intruding but this should be relatively simple, if you're free could you please evaluate this simple recalc seeing you already accepted the og calc?

it's still the same it just replaced the value of the psi to follow new standards

thanks for your time, and please have a wonderful day
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