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ByArrow
A multiverse is completely destroyed And in its place a new multiverse is created and somehow a character can go to the old multiverse. How the character does this is not explained, but he has dimensional travel and time travel abilities. Could this mean that there is a possible hypertimeline in this verse?
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Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
If you could prove that time was erased during the instruction, maybe. Otherwise they're just travelling backwards along the time axis to the previous version of the multiverse.
ByArrow
ByArrow
It was said that the past and future destroyed along with the multiverse. And another character who can time travel tried to go to the old multiverse, but he couldn't go there because the old multiverse was destroyed.
HammerStrikes219
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
Ovens was 100% right, one's connection to The Force is shown to fluctuate with mindset-based factors, such as focus, clarity, and force of will multiple times in even just the original trilogy, and this carries over to and is compounded upon in both Legends and current canon in equal measure seeing as it's effectively baked into the foundations of The Force as an energy system.
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
Also, Order 66 and Boba Fett fighting against Darth Vader twice in Legends comes to mind.

Wasn’t there Star Wars the Old Republic too?
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
Yeah, HK-47 sure as hell isn't a planet buster but with his tactical IQ he was able to effectively kill multitudes of Jedi through the use of sonic screamers and grenades to break their concentration, as well as using flamethrowers, which can't be blocked with a lightsaber and are difficult to counter with Tutaminis
ByArrow
Do you know anything about the cyclic multiverse? I've seen people say that the cyclic multiverse is a Low 1-C structure, is that true?
Qawsedf234
Qawsedf234
I do not know anything of a cyclic multiverse. I know of a cyclic universe and if the principal is the same then its just a 2-A structure that has a defined life cycle.
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Aernasilver
Yo.

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Immeasurable Bill Cipher has Blaring Problems

The CRT that discussed this is here. Now I wasn't online when this was being discussed so kind of annoying to maybe have to change this so recently, but the issues are so blatant I kind of have to say something about this. Let's see the scans the CRT gives for Immeasurable speed Bill. Bill...
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Is this immeasurable speed?
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
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Artorimachi_Meteoraft
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Harry Potter vs the hunter

The hunter Harry Rules Speed equalized Battle takes place in london Harry’s allowed The sword of gryffindor while the hunter is allowed his allowed everything except tranquilizers The hunter has knowledge of Harry and has prep for the radar too They are 30ft away and out of sight...
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Can I have your vote on this one please thanks
Ednaxel2
I remember you messaged me before on help for a fc/oc dragon ball verse page for the speed ratings

If it still exists could you send it? I wanna get back to fc/oc stuff lol
Spinoirr
Spinoirr
Alright, sure thing I'll make sure to post a better scale for things
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
How much of the game thrones show do you know? Are you up to date with all of it?
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Artorimachi_Meteoraft
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
I want to make a Jon snow matchup soon so I was wondering if you could help me with that?
SheevShezarrine
SheevShezarrine
A 9-B+ with comparable skill (a high but reasonable level of skill irl) or a lower-end 9-B with superhuman levels of skill (such as characters from Vinland Saga) would be a good matchup against him.
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
Well I have 10-A guy but he has 9-A weapons around 37 megajoules

I want to make the matchup interesting since they both can oneshot each other so I was wondering what you’d recommend if I want to make it interesting
Epyriel
Hi, if you have time do you mind checking out this CRT seeking to establish an NPES for Demon Slayer?
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Demon Slayer: Blood Demon Arts as a Non-Physical Energy System

Introduction In this thread we’ll be examining why and how Blood Demons Arts, or BDAs for short, from Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba), qualify as a Non-Physical Energy System (NPES), which is a sort of sub-type of Universal Energy System (UES). Additionally, we’ll discuss whether BDAs scale to...
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Wankbreaker
Quick question, regarding the “Void Execution Squad” gc.

you left because of holygrailwars,but would you oppose staying this time if we added you to a gc to help collaborate with us without him?

most of us are either new to the wiki, or don’t even have accounts,so we’re not sure what would need to be changed formatting wise
SweetDao
Heya! Would you mind checking this thread? Thank you!

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Cultivator against superheroes to a whole other level! (CAHS upgrade thread)

1. The Easy Part a. Cosmology Upgrade The "human universe" was accepted as Low 1-C (4 Spatial dimensions and 1 Temporal Dimension) here. We're shown two times that in the white space, infinite-sized universe becomes finite. The first time is with the Vampire Universe. As you can see, this time...
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Wankbreaker
Could you check this downgrade thread out?

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We know now, without a doubt, Void Shiki is... a fraud!

Alright. We’re going to keep this simple and easy to understand. Each section of this will be separated by points, and our responses to the reason why she scales where she scales in the first place. Thanks to all 8 members of the Void Execution Squad. “She is the root/ literally any other...
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SweetDao
Could you check this thread? It's fairly simple, I think. Thank you in advance!

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Henry's character design and the consequences of it.

Heya everyone! With the recent thread about the plot manipulation of the verse, I realized something regarding Henry that I'd like to share. We know that Henry is invincible because that's his character design (i.e setting), he was written like this, that's "himself" to be unbeatable and...
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SweetDao
Could you check this thread? It's fairly simple, I think. Thank you in advance!

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Henry's character design and the consequences of it.

Heya everyone! With the recent thread about the plot manipulation of the verse, I realized something regarding Henry that I'd like to share. We know that Henry is invincible because that's his character design (i.e setting), he was written like this, that's "himself" to be unbeatable and...
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Wankbreaker
Could you check this downgrade CRT out?

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We know now, without a doubt, Void Shiki is... a fraud!

Alright. We’re going to keep this simple and easy to understand. Each section of this will be separated by points, and our responses to the reason why she scales where she scales in the first place. Thanks to all 8 members of the Void Execution Squad. “She is the root/ literally any other...
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Wankbreaker
Could you check this out?

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We know now, without a doubt, Void Shiki is... a fraud!

Alright. We’re going to keep this simple and easy to understand. Each section of this will be separated by points, and our responses to the reason why she scales where she scales in the first place. Thanks to all 8 members of the Void Execution Squad. “She is the root/ literally any other...
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Firestorm808
Firestorm808
See our discussion rules regarding Tier 1 profiles.
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
I can confirm they seems to been making different arguments from the previous attempts and it is all referring to Shiki (The root) only.
HammerStrikes219
HammerStrikes219
Also I don’t think they trying to downgrade the Tier 1s… it seems to me, they have evidence that focuses solely on Void Shiki more specifically so I don’t see the point of closing it down.

Best to hear them out on this regard
Wankbreaker
can i get permission to comment on the tier 0 root thread? me and about 7 others have discussed counter arguments that I don’t think deagon has went over yet, and some counter debunks.
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Wankbreaker
Wankbreaker
i guess that’s understandable,but neither deagon or ultima from what I see are particularly active on their walls.

would it increase confidence if I pmed you what I intend to comment, and you approve or deny afterwards?
ByAsura
ByAsura
Sure.
Wankbreaker
Wankbreaker
sorry, i was busy with irl stuff mostly, but I’ve finished what I wanted to say.

i won’t respond to deagons points, i think he can handle those on his own. but im not sure where the other points came from, but they’re in the OP, so its fair game.



No, the night of wallachia is not inside of the world. this is literally one of the first information dumps we get about it.





“Yes. Tatari—No, ‘The Night of Wallachia’ does not have a lair. In the first place, it is something that does not even exist in this world.”
this is enough.





as for the throne of heroes,this would be very simple to prove.



“The Throne of Heroic Spirits that's said to be a hall of records within the void? Unfortunately, it's nothing so noble and innocent as that.”



touko also says that the first thing that would come out of a hole to the root if Araya opened one would be a CG. the context implies not a CG being summoned in response, but a CG existing on the other side and coming out of the hole.



But, how? Even if you don't set out a magical ward to testify that you aren't a mage, you can't fool the will of the dominant race. The only ones you can fool by using a technological ward are other mages. If you use this building a path will definitely open. Since its the realization of the Taeguekdo, a hole would certainly appear. **But the first thing to come out of that hole will be a Counter Guardian. **As long as we are who we are, there is no way we can stand up to that."



this also doesn’t discount anything, as arcueid says in MBAA that the “will of emptiness/the heavens”, and the will of the planet, have their own laws and will seperate.





Angra’s existence as a pseudo grail, the Inverted Moon of the Heavens, creates some sort of area where the root is on one end, and the normal world on the other.







both he and bazett physically run in opposite directions.



also, you only need 6 servants to grant your wish, but the 7th servant is what you need to reach the root.



the root does indeed contain some form of magical energy.



神代の文明は循環、現代の文明は消費。

神代は真理と共にあり、現代は真理を識ろうとする。

循環の理で世界が回っていた神代において、魔術師は根源に到達する必要がない。

だって根源から魔力を得ているようなものだから。

同時に、あまりに身近に感じられるため、根源にいたろうという考え自体思いつかない。



Ancient civilizations were about cycles, modern civilizations are about consumption. The ancient era existed with truth, while the modern era seeks to understand truth. In the ancient world, where the principle of cycles governed everything, magicians didn't need to reach the Root (the origin of all things). After all, it was as if they were already obtaining magical energy from the Root. At the same time, because it felt so close, the idea of reaching the Root didn't even occur to them.



the “truth” in question is the root, and the energy obtained from it is “true ether”. explains why it vanishes from the surface after the AOG,as mages don’t exist along side “truth”.

ether in nasu sometimes uses the kanji “空”.

meaning true ether would be “真空” (true emptiness). meaning by manipulating and using true ether, you are essentially using true emptiness as energy.



i won’t comment on the other points, I’ve just decided to focus on the ones i find most promising and relevant here.

but as an additional comment. the taiji uses the same microcosm kanji shiki uses in that paragraph.



also for araya:

「無論だ。だがおまえが知りえない真実もある。

　確かに、私は死の数ばかりを追っていた。何万という異なる人間の異なる死を経験すれば、その中に根源に通 じる魂の拡散があると信じていた。だが、それでは大元には到達できない。それで辿着けるのはその人間の『起 源』だけだ。霊長という総体の起源には辿り着けない。

　重要なのは死の量ではない。死の質だ。元を辿れば死に方の種類はより大きく区別される。私は死途を可能な まで大きく腑分けし、結果それが六十四種であると迫った。ここに集まった者達は一人一人がその種の死に方を 背負った者。いうなれば世界の縮図だ。私は彼らの苦しみを体験し、彼らの苦しみを内包する。いずれ八卦より四象へと単純化させ、両儀へと至るため に」



Note that he says iu nareba ['so to speak', 'you might call it', 'one way to describe it'] which suggests that he thinks 世界の縮図 is a loose description, or at best just one way to look at it.

this particular phrasing is not present in ryougis case.



i actually have new antifeats to bring up, but that’s going to clutter the thread, so i would rather have these resolved before making the next move
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Agnaa
Chariot190 said:
Was moreso referring to the novel with the triplets. Disco was me simply mentioning the most popular book from said author, as an example of a book JJ draws from. Wouldve been more specific using the book with the beyond time shit (it's been so long but the book where bro could like, see past the curtains of time and whatnot, forget how it was described) but I frugot what that one was called (Joji's time slow when he focuses, due to his internal time no longer running with the outside, is a pretty hard rip of that for example).
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Not sure about the "past the curtains of time" stuff, but personal time slow is from Disco, since a bunch of characters gain full control over space-time, internally and externally (including that book's Tsukumojuuku), including those sorts of feats. Closest I could see to the "beyond time" stuff, are characters removing themselves from any sensory references to the outside world (i.e. going to a completely dark room), so they can focus on arbitrarily changing their personal flow of time to go backwards, as otherwise that external info would subconsciously push them to align with that ordinary flow.
Chariot190
Chariot190
Not what I meant by "beyond time", but probably it.
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SweetDao
Could you check this thread? It's fairly simple, I think. Thank you in advance!

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Henry's character design and the consequences of it.

Heya everyone! With the recent thread about the plot manipulation of the verse, I realized something regarding Henry that I'd like to share. We know that Henry is invincible because that's his character design (i.e setting), he was written like this, that's "himself" to be unbeatable and...
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SweetDao
Could you check this thread? It's fairly simple, I think. Thank you in advance!

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Henry's character design and the consequences of it.

Heya everyone! With the recent thread about the plot manipulation of the verse, I realized something regarding Henry that I'd like to share. We know that Henry is invincible because that's his character design (i.e setting), he was written like this, that's "himself" to be unbeatable and...
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Sdjlakjh
Hello Ultima. Do you remember my student Dfg? The one debated you on Bleach scaling
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Not really, no.
Sdjlakjh
Sdjlakjh
Yeah I remember he then challenge you in another topic while you have Batman as a spectator in the discord groupchat
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