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Madara vs Libra: Battle for 5th Strongest 5-C

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she starts with Brachium which he resists, I think he might win via Limbo clones and TSBs using decontructions of his own. He can also absorb her blasts with the paths.
 
YungManzi said:
No she doesn't. She starts with bullets.
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hmm pretty sure she starts with Brachium most of the time an spams it. Not that it matters this match since, once agin he resists it.
 
She always started with Brachium, she did that literally every day for 200 years against fodder. She did it against Leon too and probably a bunch of other instances i don't remember.

Brachium ignores resistances.
 
AP wise Madara is 201 exatons while Libra is about 144 exatons so he has the AP advantage too, thus I vote for Madara, via AP advantage, resistance to her main ability and Limbo + TSBs.
 
Libra is like 300 exatons... She is moon level+, and Brachium is superior to 1200 exatons and ignores resistances.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
She always started with Brachium, she did that literally every day for 200 years against fodder. She did it against Leon too and probably a bunch of other instances i don't remember.
Brachium ignores resistances.
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That was under very special circumstances, when she was completely unlike how she is in the main story.

Main story Libra (From what I've seen in the manga, which I'm currently up to date in) only ever uses Brachium against way stronger people.

Anyway, I'll continue typing up my initial shizz.
 
Brachium>Ruphas who can split a planet in half which is 5.0811706477439e30J or 1214 Exatons.

Don't follow the manga too closely but from where Libra was introduced, she wasn't intending to eliminate her targets, just caputure from what i remember and Ruphas didn't want her nuking the city

Brachium is literally her go to move, she has threatened to use it to destroy cities and stuff over and over again, it's literally what she goes to and has indeed used it at the start of multiple fights.

Really don't intend on searching for every instance of her using it right now, especially since i have to go to bed now. But imo it's her go to ability.
 
Both are around the same AP-wise.

Libra starts with bullets and Madara starts with H2H.

Win conditions for both are as follows;

Libra: "Uses Brachium"

Madara: "Thrash her, TSB."


Now, Madara does resist Matter Manipulation of Tsb and ninjutsu (Which this is very similar to ninjustu like dust release, providing 2 fold resistances). And although Brachium is "auto-hit" you can still anticipate it (Even "fodder" as you call them, did it). So. she uses it, Madara uses izanagi as a last resort, because he could see the amount of power in it, which is Low 5-B.

And he just comes back.

So even if she starts with it, which I don't think she does, he just izanagi's around it.
 
Libra always start with brachium, the moments when she doesnt start with it because it has a long cooldown (literaly 24 hours cooldown), Madara have izanagi but never use it in battle especially when he become Juubi jinchuriki, i would say Libra take this because it negated resistance and durability.
 
GLHF22 said:
Libra always start with brachium, the moments when she doesnt start with it because it has a long cooldown (literaly 24 hours cooldown), Madara have izanagi but never use it in battle especially when he become Juubi jinchuriki, i would say Libra take this because it negated resistance and durability.
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he can absorb brachium and madara never used it because he had no chance to, the only time he could use it was against hashirama and he did, he could not use it against zetsu because he was essentially powernulled the moment zetsu got him, his limbo clones disappeared immediately.
 
Madara doesnt have feats for absorbs a low 5-B attack, also Does Rinnegan can use Izanagi? I don't think so. Even then judging by His battle vs Guy, He most likely in this form only rely on His Regenerationn not Izanagi.
 
GLHF22 said:
Madara doesnt have feats for absorbs a low 5-B attack, also Does Rinnegan can use Izanagi? Even then judging by His battle vs Guy, He mostnlikely in this form only rely on His Regenerationn not Izanagi.
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he is not so far below Kaguya who absorbed 4-C power for her ETSB. He can switch to the EMS like he does in the war. No? because he did not die, izanagi literally rewrites reality so that your death does not happen. example, Danzo gets pierced by a susanoo arrow an dinstantly dies but themn he body fades away and he appears again. he wont need it due to absorption though.
 
Kaguya is very very above Madara you can see how Madara body almost explode after he contain Kaguya's power, He never do that in this form, and most likely will not since he use His Rinnegan to maintain His Limbo.
 
GLHF22 said:
Kaguya is very very above Madara you can see how Madara body almost explode after he contain Kaguya's power, He never do that in this form, and most likely will not since he use His Rinnegan to maintain His Limbo.
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Yeah and the not so far thtat he cant absorb Low 5-B energy is my point, the difference between 4-C and Low 5-B is hundreds of thousands of times, Madara is not that far below her. He does not need to tranform both eyes just one is enough and he never did so in this form cause he never needed to? This form wont limit his options it would open them.
 
No feats = cant absorbs brachium.

He use both Rinnegan so he can use Limbo at full power, and no in this form he never switch His eye to sharingan.
 
GLHF22 said:
No feats = cant absorbs brachium.
He use both Rinnegan so he can use Limbo at full power, and no in this form he never switch His eye to sharingan.
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............ his feats come from Kaguya.

He does not need to do it i a specific form its something he can and has done in a lower form, no reason he cant do it now.
 
Kaguya =\= Madara even if you say he can do the lower form its not necessarily low-5-B we cant use undefined ability here.
 
GLHF22 said:
Kaguya =\= Madara even if you say he can do the lower form its not necessarily low-5-B we cant use undefined ability here.
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it woudl definitely be low-5-B because yet again their level of power is not that big, she can aboorb power far above her level the assumption he can do but at a lower scale is logical.

we are just going in circles now, so I wont be responding to this point again.
 
GLHF22 said:
Then do the CRT and make His Tier low-5B with absorption.
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We dont do that for absorption last I checked and it not Low 5-B it is likely far above that to an unkown extent which is another reason we dont have it shown.
 
So you're saying Madara (Who can clearly see chakra and knows how to distinguish himself from others in terms of power just by looking at their chakra) isn't going to use izanagi against an attack that is clearly far more powerful than himself?

And yes, he can use izanagi with Rinne Sharigan and rinnegan. Because, why wouldn't he? It's just a more powerful sharingan.

Why didn't he use it against Guy? Well, for one, Guy wasn't that much more powerful than him (As-in, he isn't upwards of 8x more powerful than Madara).

And 2, Guy's attacks are mostly H2H. If Brachium was a melee ability, Madara might try to swap hands with Libra and forget about using izanagi (Because of his love for CQC). But it's not.

Izanagi isn't exactly hard to set up either. He can use it while he's being blasted by Brachium, as it's activation should be thought based like any other sharingan genjutsu. And Danzo was spamming it without hand signs.
 
Ionliosite said:
Libra FRA, you can't scale Madara to Kaguya
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He isnt scaling to her he is scaling below her. he sure as hell is not hundreds of thousands fo times weaker in absorption.

and eitherway he has izanagi.
 
He isnt scaling to her he is scaling below her. he sure as hell is not hundreds of thousands fo times weaker in absorption.

There's no prove he can absorb something 4x stronger than him either. Kaguya is totally much above him, Madara basically exploded taking in her power.
 
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