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Dragon Ball Missing Abilities on Profiles + Range Upgrade

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Added 1. The following characters Bulma, Dr. Gero, Baby (Dragon Ball GT) are missing this ability:

Technological Preparation

(Giving Bulma enough time, she can invent a Time-Machine or a Dragon Radar. Also, even with little resources she created a Scouter Drone to find Kid Goku.)

(Giving Dr. Gero enough time, he can create powerful Androids.)

(This.)

Added 2. Whis and All Angels should have the following:

Likely Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation, and Non-Physical Interaction

Angel's taught their candidates to become GoD which they likely possess those abilities themselves.

Acausality (Type 1) (They can Time-Travel without making any alterations.)

Added. 3. Shi is missing the following abilities:

Time Travel and Acausality (Type 1) (He can get access to those abilities via Time Ring; However, he those not carry the ring with him.)

Life Manipulation, Matter Manipulation,and Physics Manipulation (He is a God of Creation)

Limited Clairvoyance (only with a Crystal Ball.)

Rejected >>>>4. Beerus and GoD should have this ability:

Limited Concept Destruction (With Hakai, a GoD can remove an individual from existence across all Time-Lines.)<<<<
 
I agree with Bulma, Gero and Baby having prep and also The Angels having their abilities.

Whis literally said right before the ToP that Grand Priest can erase, so at the very least it scales to him

Idk about CD for GoD
 
https://************/Anime/Dragon-Ball-Super/Episode-078?id=134257&s=default

6:58

Goku: "Then do you want me to ask zen-chan to forget the whole erasin' thing"

Whis: "I would advise against that. Zen-oh sama and Great Priest sama have made their decision. If angered, they may erase you"

Grand Priest's ability to erase was also said in the recent manga chapter.

Both the anime and manga say GP can erase. So there is no reason he shouldn't get it.
 
Also, GP should have Cosmic Awareness, since he watches over the multiverse with his vision, and can hear things in cross-universal distance. Edit: To add to the OP, it was literally stated by Vados that she trained Toppo as a GoD; so from mortal to GoD. Further implying they taught the GoD their abilities.
 
1.

-Agree

2.

-Agree

-Technically the acausailty is just part of the nature of everyone in dragonball.

3.

-Agree

-I guess so

-Agree

4.

- I mean, just because you erase someone across the timelines doesn't mean you're erasing their concept.

-Also speaking about the cosmic awarness thing. If it's just classified as characters sensing things across cosmic distances then alot of characters should have it. But this is definitely prevalent with the god characters. Beerus and Whis talked and heard each other across the universe in dbs episode 2, Beerus sensed a piece of candy across the universe in episode 69, both Beerus and whis acted like they heard Goku say Beerus's name in the broly movie, etc.
 
I agree with most of this but Concept Destruction may be a stretch, is there anymore evidence to say that a whole concept would be erased?
 
AwkguyDB said:
I agree with most of this but Concept Destruction may be a stretch, is there anymore evidence to say that a whole concept would be erased?
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Concept Destruction: The ability to destroy or remove a concept. By using the ability concepts are removed from reality. This can be wide-spread or very targeted, either erasing the concept of an overarching fundamental principle, such as space, or an individual. When destroyed at this level, nothing can be restored without using similarly powerful conceptual creation. Conventional Regenerationn or resurrection, no matter how powerful, would prove impossible as the very abstract concept of the character would not exist.
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
Goku: "Then do you want me to ask zen-chan to forget the whole erasin' thing"

Whis: "I would advise against that. Zen-oh sama and Great Priest sama have made their decision. If angered, they may erase you"

Grand Priest's ability to erase was also said in the recent manga chapter.
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Neither the anime or the manga imply that the Grand Priest himself can erase people.

We refer to a government as a group of people, which is likely why they used the "they" pronoun instead of "him" or just Zeno. It's likely that Grand Priest would get Zeno to erase Goku.

This is implied the same way in the manga except in the manga, Grand Priest isn't mentioned by Whis. And, at the beginning of the chapter, Grand Priest even stated that "We Angels must act impartially." So, Grand Priest is also under the risk of Erasure.
 
Would Goku Black surviving the Hakai on Zamasu due to the Time Ring's Acausality knock down the Concept Destruction argument?
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Would Goku Black surviving the Hakai on Zamasu due to the Time Ring's Acausality knock down the Concept Destruction argument?
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Why? wouldn't it just be a resistence for the user wearing the ring?
 
Questioning the Concept Destruction ability. It's probably just a temporally ranged Existence Erasure or what else it is. Fine with other abilities.
 
1. Agree. Should be pretty self-explanatory.

2. Agree. It would make no sense for the Angels to be able to teach this technique to their GoD candidates but be unable to do so themselves especially since it can neither be attributed to the candidate themselves nor do they have any other reference for the ability. Honestly, they should have it outright.

3. Agree. Again, is completely cut and dry.

4. Seems more likely that the GoDs and those comparable and superior should have 2-C range instead. While what he's doing is technically Type 3 Conceptual Erasure, it's accomplished indirectly so I don't think it's valid.
 
So should the accepted abilities be applied, or is it better if we wait for more input first?
 
I think they can be applied. Nothing to contrversial and most of the abilities are pretty straight-forward.
 
Okay. Is some experienced member willing to apply this then?

You need to write a list of all the exact titles for the pages that I need to unlock with my script, and also closely follow the Common Editing Mistakes instructions.
 
We have no evidence that Angels teach their respective Gods of Destruction Hakai.

1.) In the manga, Goku is supposedly able to use the Hakai without being taught by anyone (which I deem bull, but the Dragon Ball and Vs Battles Wiki see it as legit, so whatev), which leans more towards the Gods of Destruction developing it on their owns. But, this is manga-exclusive.

2.) We have no evidence that his Angel trained him, but Toppo is still able to enter the God of Destruction Mode and use the Hakai; The God of Destruction Mode was Toppo's transition into the God of Destruction status that he's trained for, and this appears to be the first time he has been able to use Hakai, which backs up the "They just develop it on their own" argument.

3.) Super's anime also confirms that you simply need Energy of Destruction to use Hakai through Sidra and Toppo.

That reminds me, wouldn't Goku, Frieza, and Vegeta have Resistance to Existence Erasure? Goku and Frieza resisted and survived Sidra's Energy of Destruction, and Vegeta punched through Toppo's Energy of Destruction.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
We have no evidence that Angels teach their respective Gods of Destruction Hakai.
1.) In the manga, Goku is supposedly able to use the Hakai without being taught by anyone (which I deem bull, but the Dragon Ball and Vs Battles Wiki see it as legit, so whatev), which leans more towards the Gods of Destruction developing it on their owns. But, this is manga-exclusive.

2.) We have no evidence that his Angel trained him, but Toppo is still able to enter the God of Destruction Mode and use the Hakai; The God of Destruction Mode was Toppo's transition into the God of Destruction status that he's trained for, and this appears to be the first time he has been able to use Hakai, which backs up the "They just develop it on their own" argument.

3.) Super's anime also confirms that you simply need Energy of Destruction to use Hakai through Sidra and Toppo.

That reminds me, wouldn't Goku, Frieza, and Vegeta have Resistance to Existence Erasure? Goku and Frieza resisted and survived Sidra's Energy of Destruction, and Vegeta punched through Toppo's Energy of Destruction.
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Goku does have resistance, it's the Future Trunks/ Pre Omen Key for Goku's abilites and Frieza plus Vegeta has it as well
 
I have unlocked the pages. Tell me here when you are done.

Remember to only give the angels "Likely" Hakai abilities though. It is not an absolute certainty.
 
I've finished Dr. Gero, Bulma, Baby and Grand Priest.

I'll do the rest of the angels when I get back home as I have to go now, unless someone does the rest of the angels profile before I get back.
 
Okay. Thanks for helping out.
 
I don't think they scale. They needed the mental plane to communicate with each other, whereas the Grand Priest could do it just by looking.

Anyway, I'll update the rest of the angels now

Edit: Nevermind they have been taken care off

@Ant

this can be closed.
 
I think Beerus should atleast get it. Both him and whis could communicate and hear each other across the universe in episode 2, Beerus sensed a small peice of candy across the universe in episode 69, and Beerus acted like he heard his name when Goku mentioned him in the Broly movie. Plus the requirements for Cosmic Awarness seems as easy as just sensing things across the Cosmos, pretty simple stuff.
 
I think the other GoDs should scale too. Nothing implies that it's exclusive to Beerus.
 
Should we make note of Beerus ability to erase people across all timelines on his P&A section and change his range outright? I feel this should have been done a while back.
 
I don't think that he erases all counterparts of a character in every timeline, just the local version.
 
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