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Possibly some bad DC Comics news

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AT&T doesnt give a crap and doesnt know anything about comics that's why. At least with Disney they see the potential big bucks with marvel heroes and perfected a formula, that produces films of varying quality that get people hooked. But with DC and WB, they keep hiring people wrong for the job and don't really care about the characters
 
Yobo Blue said:
After going through the article, it seems to be more downsizing than clorsure, which is not that bad
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Okay. Let's hope so.
 
This is... bizarre, while personally not a fan myself, I assumed DC to have a pretty strong following in the comics business atleast, especially given how branched out their IPs in the genres were.

That may mean it's probably a matter of time other publishers like Dark Horse, Image, or hell, even Marvel may be closing soon unless someone does something..
 
@Zark

Well, I have been longing for the old days of high-quality mostly non-political comicbooks for several years now, so that is where I think at least part of the blame lies, but I will not say anything more than that, so this thread doesn't get political as well.
 
Zark2099 said:
This is... bizarre, while personally not a fan myself, I assumed DC to have a pretty strong following in the comics business atleast, especially given how branched out their IPs in the genre were.
That may mean it's probably a matter of time other publishers like Dark Horse, Image, or hell, even Marvel may be closing soon unless someone does something..
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DC seems to focus mostly on Batman IP nowadays, most of the different stuff they try to pull off (vertigo, young animal) get cancelled and a lot of non Batman books get cancelled. They feel less varied than Marvel.
 
Grant Morrison was right, DC is dying, editors and higher ups are sucking the life out of it. DC has great story telling potential but they keep ******* it up. And it's also due to the fact that people now would rather watch live action cape movies even though comics are a unique medium and offer a lot of potential. Guys like Zack Snyder making mediocre flicks about characters he knows nothing about did a lot of damage to DC as well.
 
What is the secret behind the relative better success of manga as compared to the recent state of western comics?
 
@Antvasima

Probably, probably not. Marvel, for how desperate their new, "woke" stuff is trying to appeal, atleast tends to get the buzz going for their comics, and the most I've ever heard of DC recently was how they included a Marvel easter egg in their stories.

Honestly, thinking about it... yeah, it kinda is obvious that was gonna happen. Still sucks so many amazing IPs, especially at Vertigo, are now dead in their original genres...
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
What is the secret behind the relative better success of manga as compared to the recent state of western comics?
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Manga still being part of popular culture.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
What is the secret behind the relative better success of manga as compared to the recent state of western comics?
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Manga creators are mostly allowed to freely think, evaluate, and express themselves in more unique & creative manners, rather than stick to mass-produced narrowminded preset settings and ideology. As such, the most skilled creators are usually far more varied and entertaining, with a greater amount of genres, so there is something interesting for almost everybody.

Also, My Hero Academia and One-Punch Man are more entertaining than any current western superhero comicbooks in my humble opinion.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
What is the secret behind the relative better success of manga as compared to the recent state of western comics?
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Manga doesn't have 80 years of backstory you need to read up on. Atleast that's what the general public assumes atleast.
 
I've been watching DC take hit after hit this year. Shutting down the Vertigo imprint, cancelling multiple ongoing comics series, collection cancellations, shutting down production for Titans, having to cancel the Swamp Thing live-action series after just one season even after it garnered massively good reviews...

Let's just face it; there was no way they weren't heading in this direction eventually. It was coming their way at full ******* speed.

But prepared or not, it still hurts to finally see this come to pass, assuming it does. I make fun of the current state of DC as much as I make fun of Marvel lately, but at the end of the day, this is really depressing news considering I grew up on these comics and their characters. And whether you like the stuff they put out nowadays or not, there's just no denying that the comics community is going to take a massive loss if DC's comics line shuts down.

Just...damn...
 
Well, if Marvel Comics isn't turning out a profit, then no, Disney will definitely shut them down.

That goes for literally everything though. If you don't make money, you gotta pull the plug. That's business.
 
Schnee One said:
How is this possibly bad?

This is absolutely bad
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We don't know if the company executives are actually going to do this just because the article claims that they might, hence, "possibly".
 
Zark2099 said:
Manga doesn't have 80 years of backstory you need to read up on. Atleast that's what the general public assumes atleast.
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That is also a good point. There is a shortage of interesting self-contained western comicbooks, outside of a few, such as Astro City, Usagi Yojimbo, and The Walking Dead.
 
Thinking back on someone asking what made manga still relatively successful...

DC and Marvel are basically each one massive manga withe an insane amount of spin-offs. They have to fit in their continuity.

For example, if the Flash finds out a fundamental thing about the universe, that fundamental thing also affects, Superman, Batman, etc.

And that's it, the U.S. only really has 2 different universes for comics; Marvel and DC (multiverse aside). There's the Invincible universe but nothing really comes close to these two.

Imagine only having like 2 Manga to follow ever. Let's say Naruto and One Piece. It'd get old and repetitive much faster if we were only exposed to these two manga, I think.


But with the Manga industry, artists and authors are out telling more and more stories because their stories don't have to fit in another's universe. Naruto's rules don't apply to One Piece and vice versa.

Maybe readers are fatigued with dealing with the same characters doing different versions of the same arc for decades, and maybe writers are having trouble finding ways to make the arcs feel real and genuine and not manufactured.
 
JaTacticalNuke002 said:
What is the secret behind the relative better success of manga as compared to the recent state of western comics?
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It's trending to like anime/manga today and the upside to having one writer for a manga series is they don't need to follow status quo. The masses think comics are boring or to take too much effort to get into. People need capes on the big screen with flashy effects to be interested.
 
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