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High 8-C Brackets Round 16

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Sixteeth round of the High 8-C Brackets Begins (wooo, halfway though)! The winner of the last round was Gash and Kiyomaru.

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The contenders for this round are Kafuru, submitted by Arrogant Schmuck and Aang, submitted by JackytheJack.

Base Season 3 Aang is used, Speed is Equalized. Battle takes place at an abandoned Air Temple, 20m apart.

Kafuru scales to 3.824 Tons, Aang backscales from 9.443 Tons.

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Aang -

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Kafuru
 
Replying to say A. I'm following for after I've woken up and B. nobody has responded since it's night
 
I mean... different time zones are a thing. It's pretty much midday here.

Aang holds a decent AP advantage and seems to have more versatility too, although Kafuru seems to be the more intelligent + skilled fighter, and teleportation could be annoying
 
Aang's big problem is that a clean hit will kill him.

Kafuru's attacks on the other hand seem to largely require water to work, which Aang can disrupt with water bending.


How good is Kafuru's teleportation and which way does she use it? Teleporting into close combat to just punch Aang, before he can make a proper shield, could win this for her.
 
Seeing how skilled, agile, and nimble Aang is I don't think it'll be that clear cut
 
The thing is that Aang don't have High 8-C dura naturally, so he will get one-shotted, but since Kafuru attacks are mostly water based, i think that Aang will be able to dodge them and even use the water to hit Kafuru
 
I mean honestly speaking I don't think Aang has been hit in CQC many times at all.
 
True, i think that most of the time, Avatar Charaters fight in range, Earthbenders seems to be the ones who go into CQC, but it is not that much, teleportation can screw Aang over if that means that Kafuru gets a free hit, but i don't know how that works, so i will wait till someone say something about her. And i also noticed that Aang may have the location advantage, depending on what Air Temple, i don't remember if he visit all of them in the show
 
So the first thing that SK characters in general tend to do is put up a Shinobi Barrier. What this does is it gives them a homefield advantage. A Shinobi Barrier is a pocket realm that consists of a place they're familiar with, but it's a version of that place from a different timeline. For example, Kafuru would likely choose the shrine she grew up in, but she would take it from a timeline where, for one reason or another, it was abandoned. That way they could fight without endangering anyone.

All this to say that the location Dargoo set doesn't matter much because Kafuru will immediately change it to a place she knows inside and out.

Something that should be worth mentioning is that Kafuru (and her sisters) have been combat training since they were 2 years old.

How her teleportation works is she instantly vanishes into the ground and then pops out of it just as quickly. In a similar vein, she can summon Luka, the dolphin, and she often uses him by having him appear from the ground and surprise-uppercutting the opponent.

Kafuru does use water quite a bit, and although I've never seen The Last Airbender, considering Aang is the main character I am inclined to say he might be better at it. Idk how far his High 8-C version is into the series so maybe he's not as experienced as I think, but again I can't say anything for sure.

What I ca say for sure is that Kafuru excels at critical thinking and adapting during combat far more than most other characters in the series. Once she sees Aang is able to manipulate her water, she's likely to switch things up. She still has Luka and her own martial arts which, again, she's been honing since she was a toddler.

Also I could be wrong but it seems this is what Aang actually scales to which is 5.7 tons. The feat Kafuru scales to is also pretty casual, for what it's worth.

And that's all I have to say for now. I won't vote yet since I don't know nearly enough about Aang to say anything for certain.
 
Gonna reply to this later as I just woke up. But Aang should still be pretty skilled at around season 3 from what I remember? I also haven't watched Avatar in a while as I just sorta...picked Aang because I actually knew the character. With that being said I'm pretty sure Aang exclusively fights at range as...I don't remember him ever getting up close. He should be able to manipulate water thrown at him and also play a pretty good range game, and he has pretty good defensive capabilities with sending up earth shields and all that.
 
Some things you need to know about Aang, he is prob as skilled in Water Bending as with his Air Bending, and nop, Aang downscale to that feat, normally, avatar characters fight in distance, with the Earthbenders, the Chi blockers and Soka who normally go to CQC, the reason for that is that, normally, Avatar characters have a weaker Dura than what they can get with their Bendings (Aang have 9-A Dura without Bending), so they normally will stick to long range with their bendings. Also, i don't think that just because she trained since she was two years old should be a reason to why she is more skilled than Aang, because normally the authors can give their characters a ridiculous amount of time of training and use "training since birth" to say that X character have alot of skill, while i do think that this could give X character a more skill base than us IRL, without feats to backup this, i feel this kinda of statement kinda empty, but i am pretty sure that the SK girl have more than this statement, so could you think in a quick list of Kafuru besting opponents?
 
Anyway, if her dolphin can give a surprise hit in Aang, i think i would give my vote to her, since Aang would have little timeframe to defend himself
 
She can also use her teleportation to get in close and land a hit

There have been a few (canonical) instances where she's taken on multiple opponents at once on her own and been victorious. And yes, SK is a series in which it is possible for anyone to do that seeing how they're all considered pretty equal, but still I don't think that should deter the fact that defeating multiple opponents on your own is notable.

I don't know where this notion of training since you were very young doesn't make you skilled but it's not like said training consisted of sitting on their asses staring at a wall. It even says "vigorously" in that text but whatever.

Also no one seems to have addressed the fact that Kafuru is able to make it so that she has the homefield advantage and can utilize her surroundings much better as a result.

If Kafuru only needs to land one hit on Aang directly, though, then I think I would vote for her considering she only needs to take him by surprise once to win.
 
If her Teleport can get her close enough to score a hit, i also vote for Kafuru. Also, i saided that training since birth or very young is a reason to be a very skilled guy, even superior to us IRL, but if that is the only reason of why you are skilled, with no feat whatsoever, then i tend to considere the other character more skilled if he have actual feats demonstrating that he is a skilled fighter, sorry if i did not specify my point.
 
Me too, Aang have some trouble against people who are on his level of power, but Kafuru seems to be taken out multiple enemies comparable to her
 
I think I'm actually going to vote Aang here. Each bending is a different art form and mastering all four in such a short period of time requires immense skill, but also talent as well.

I'm aware that if Aang takes a singular good hit he's done for. But I can't count how many times he's dodged things last minute by seeming to make himself lighter with airbending to dodge in some fashion. The martial art airbending is based off of (which I can't spell), is based upon circular movement. I think it'll be pretty hard to land a solid hit with that alone. Plus, Aang could coat himself in earth if he ever notices her strength, or employ constant airbending around him such that when she does appear she's immediately blown back.

I think he can edge it out, if only very slightly.
 
Well, I think you're incorrect. It's going to be difficult for him to block something coming up from below him completely untelegraphed. She can also take a good bit of hits from him before going down, while the same obviously can't be said for him.
 
Also, it is not In character to coat himself in Earth, he only have done that against Combustion man IIRC, and by the way, he was hitted by Azula while in Avatar State, just pointing this out
 
He did the rock armor against Ozai and against the latter, he was facing off dozen+ Dai Lee while Azula sneak attacked from behind. Him getting tagged in AS while facing/focusing on the opponent happened 0 times.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
He did the rock armor against Ozai and against the latter, he was facing off dozen+ Dai Lee while Azula sneak attacked from behind. Him getting tagged in AS while facing/focusing on the opponent happened 0 times.
Fair point about Azula, i don't remember he using the Earth Armor, and i can't find anything about that on Youtube, do you have scans of him using?
 
Wasn't it in those greenish crystals? I definitly remember him doing that ''somewhere''.
 
Nevermind, i found he using against Ozai, but i still think that Kafuru take this
 
@Schmuck

I mean, I wouldn't call spears of earth randomly jutting from the ground from dozens of meters away a telegraphed move. I'm fairly certain he's dodged attacks that he hasn't exactly seen coming many times before. Half of the time when someone is right beside him, he seems to instinctively leap away. He can still react to the attack that occurs after the teleportation.

I don't think Aang really takes it by much of anything. I just think it'll be very difficult for her to land a clean hit. Bending is plenty versatile, Aang can transition between the ground and the air with earthbending and airbending, and the skill gap isn't very large. Aang also likely has better AoE as well.
 
Seeing as Aang was a master of airbending when only 12 (despite playing and goofing off most of the time), learnt to waterbend better than people who had spent x10 times longer training while under the same master as them for not even a month, earthbending in a few months at most (including learning seismic sense) and notably above average firebending in weeks (and was able to learn lightning redirection in the same amount of time) along with energy bending. His learning curve and skill are ridiculously high considering his mentality, age and time actually spent training.

As for the porting, it will just be like Aang vs Toph when he hovered through the air and touched down, she immediately knew he was there. Aang's SS lets him know everything she does so long as she is in contact with the ground.

He also shouldn't back scale from the Combustion Man feat seeing as his earthbending took Comet Ozai (better firebender without the Comet amp) wailing on it for a minute before breaking, waterbending overpowered the flames, and airbending still blocking a continuous stream despite him tossing it up as his earth ball finally got ripped apart.
 
Drite77 said:
Also, it is not In character to coat himself in Earth, he only have done that against Combustion man IIRC, and by the way, he was hitted by Azula while in Avatar State, just pointing this out
He also covered himself in earth against Ozai I think?
 
Nico-v11 said:
Drite77 said:
Also, it is not In character to coat himself in Earth, he only have done that against Combustion man IIRC, and by the way, he was hitted by Azula while in Avatar State, just pointing this out
He also covered himself in earth against Ozai I think?
Yeah, Anonymus Blank sended a video
 
Regardless if she tries to teleport via going underground she gets trapped since he can just earthbend and trap her in there
 
Going underground is a terrible idea against an earthbender who knows Seismic Sense.
 
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